Prospect Info: Devils Win #2 Overall -- Slafkovsky vs. Jiricek vs. Nemec

What should we do with #2?

  • Slafkovsky

    Votes: 220 61.5%
  • Jiricek

    Votes: 56 15.6%
  • Nemec

    Votes: 30 8.4%
  • Trade it

    Votes: 39 10.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 13 3.6%

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@StevenToddIves

Correct me if I’m wrong, there are a bunch of RD that are ranked late 1, early 2?

Examples:

Seamus Casey
Ryan Chelsey
Tritan Luneau
Ty Nelson
Elais Salomonsson
Mavrick Lamoureux

and that’s just right D.

There are also a bunch of LD that have 1st/2nd round grades.

I understand the fear, or PTSD of prior picks, but if Slaf hits on his potential he could be sensational, like a unicorn of size and skill.

Many other prospects are great (Nemec/Jiricek) but similar (lesser) versions of themselves can be found throughout the draft.
 
I haven’t watched all the games, so I take your guys word for it. I’d just like to see a little more production from a #2 pick, especially against teams like France and Germany. Maybe he just needs better linemates then.

This years WC isn’t very high level. For reference Sami Vatanen has been looking like Cale Makar out there.
That right there is the problem. You shouldn’t have said he’s been pretty average without actually watching. Yes the points haven’t come but he’s done a lot and looked really good.
That’s why there’s things much more important than production when scouting prospects.

For example. The following clip was from his game this morning playing against what would be a very good NHL team. Didn’t get any points but he has consistently been able to do stuff like this throughout the first 3 games. He wasn’t dominant against Canada today but he had a few chances to score himself and created some chances for teammates that could’ve easily been scored. And he was good on the forecheck and in battles and was defensively responsible against a far superior team. Was nothing average about his performance today. Also had 5 shots today against Canada. If anything I’d like to see him bury more of his own chances but that’ll come like it did in the Olympics and he ripped one off the crossbar in the first game.


 
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The more I look at and think about the Kakko thing the more I start to think he was a good prospect who could still turn into a solid top 6 forward but that he was overrated because of his production and perceived readiness.

I think he just may have been more developed than other kids his age, had a pretty good skillset and produced well in his draft year. Just looking back as STI has said he really didn’t and still doesn’t have an elite skillset.

Without the production I doubt he was as highly viewed and necessarily goes second. If anything I think that maybe goes to the argument that production isn’t close to as important as other things when it comes to drafting.
I agree 1,000% with this.

Kakko will be a good NHLer, I think a very productive, two-way 2nd line guy. But I'm still embarrassed I had him ranked over Byram, and it's a mistake I learned from. I liked Byram better as a prospect, and the day I put out my final rankings I remember really wanting to rank Byram #2, but I actually did not care to deal with all the flak I knew I'd have to put up with as a result. I still would have had Kakko #3 with Turcotte #4 and Zegras #5. My ranking of Zegras was actually about 3-5 slots higher than the consensus, and we all know how that turned out. I need to stop listening to other people entirely, haha.

But yes, stats are extremely overrated for the draft, especially when they are cited by people who don't scout the prospects or know how to use stats in context. This is why I am constantly ripping on Byron Bader, whose rankings are universally the worst on earth every year and still people listen to him. Can you imagine anyone paying attention to Corey Pronman or Cam Robinson if they were standing on soapboxes screaming that Ayrton Martino was better than Mason McTavish? But Bader pretends his snake oil is "science" so he gets away with it for his lemming-like followers.

There needs to be context. I understand a statistical argument saying Joakim Kemell is better than Brad Lambert, because they were the same age on the same team playing the same competition. It checks out that if one is producing significantly more, then -- at least for now -- they are the better offensive player.

But when I had to fight against a litany of lemmings claiming Lucas Raymond was overrated because his numbers in the SHL were poor, it was a very draining experience. And I'm finding the same thing this year with Slafkovsky, whose upside is probably a notch higher than Raymond.

I'm also increasingly disturbed with a seemingly palpable backlash against big and physical players in the draft. The leading goal scorers for the US-NTDP were not Cooley or Nazar, but rather McGroarty and Gauthier. Their stats match up very well with Cooley and Nazar, perhaps even better when you consider McGroarty was leaned one heavily in defensive situations while Cooley was usually sheltered more to the offensive, while Gauthier was shuffled from line to line in almost an "ignition" role. But some of the same "numbers"/"size means nothing" people who are arguing Cooley for the top 3 overall are ranking the extremely physical McGroarty and Gauthier as low as the 2nd round!

Now, I have Gauthier at #7 and McGroarty at #14. I love both these prospects. But I have them lower than my 5/6 of Nazar/Cooley, simply because I see Nazar/Cooley as line-drivers and Gauthier as a power-forward/sniper. McGroarty is a bit different, I see him as middle six because his skating is only average -- but I do see him as an elite middle-six center who mixes scoring, physicality and two-way play. But when I see a guy like Will Scouching (I respect what he does, but his rankings are perennially quite poor) ranking McGroarty at #56 overall... well, I just have to laugh. But Scouching will admit to not using compete level or physicality or size even remotely in his rankings, while heavily relying on statistics without context, and this is a big part of where they fail every single year.

I agree with you that numbers are just a short cut for the draft-day Johnny-come-lately's to waltz in on May 10th and pretend they know as much if not more than people like yourself and myself and the great draft analysts like Steve Kournianos and Cam Robinson awho have watched the prospects all year long. Then, they push their invented narratives with platitudes about how size and physicality and character intangibles are irrelevant, as if we should be ashamed of ourselves for even thinking being 6'4 or having an elite compete level will somehow make a prospect more likely to succeed. And although it's kind of transparent and pathetic, it's also part of human nature.
 
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@StevenToddIves

Correct me if I’m wrong, there are a bunch of RD that are ranked late 1, early 2?

Examples:

Seamus Casey
Ryan Chelsey
Tritan Luneau
Ty Nelson
Elais Salomonsson
Mavrick Lamoureux

and that’s just right D.

There are also a bunch of LD that have 1st/2nd round grades.

I understand the fear, or PTSD of prior picks, but if Slaf hits on his potential he could be sensational, like a unicorn of size and skill.

Many other prospects are great (Nemec/Jiricek) but similar (lesser) versions of themselves can be found throughout the draft.
Post this question again in my draft ranking thread and I'll give you a more detailed response. Here's the quick one:

Casey: excellent on both sides of the puck, but lacking any dynamic ability either way and just 160 pounds. Should go in the 1st half of the 2nd round.

Chesley: best defensive defenseman int he draft, with a cannon for a shot. Undervalued because of stat-nonsense, a la Jake Sanderson and Brock Faber, who now might be the #1 and #10 prospect in the NHL right now. He'll go in the 1st half of the first round.

Luneau: very high floor, very good two-ways, no weakness; but also no singular elite trait. Late 1st pick.

Nelson: dynamic offensively and loves the big open-ice hit, but a horror show defensively. Like, really really bad. Should have been converted to forward. Could get taken late 1st by a team which over-relies on stats, but more likely early 2nd.

Salomonsson: unbelievable tools but you have to worry about the tool-box. Should be fighting Nemec and Jiricek for top defender in the draft, but questions about IQ/compete will drop him to the late 1st/early 2nd.

Lamoureaux: 6'7 and loves to crush people, also with deceptively good skating and puck skills. Very raw, but in 5 years could be a memorable draft-day steal in the early to mid-2nd round.

You left out:

Noah Warren: 6'5 and fast/athletic, and terrific defensively with maybe the most raw physicality of any defender in the draft. No offense however, which could drop him to the late 2nd/early 3rd. He's around the top of my wish list with the Devils 3rd round pick.

Sam Rinzel: more upside than any of these guys except maybe Lamoureux, Rinzel is 6'4 and can fly with exceptional offensive instincts. He's the Scott Morrow of the 2022 draft.

Vladimir Grudinin: maybe the fastest RD in the draft and supremely offensively skilled, but small and needs work on 200-foot game.

These are my (overall) rankings for RD:

3 Jiricek
4 Nemec
12 Chesley
26 Luneau
30 Rinzel
38 Lamoureux
44 Warren
57 Casey
98 Salomonsson
101 Grudinin
129 Nelson
 
I mean I haven't posted in a while, but Slaf has been my pick for the devils ever since the olympics, and I've wrote it here several times, incase you guys misunderstood my post. I hope they pick him cause he's the most exciting of them all and the ceiling could be huge. But can I still have my concerns and fears? I know that he doesn't play anything like Kakko or Zacha, but them and even someone like Lafreniere struggling do give me some doubts. Back in the day, it was the physical ready guys who would have the best chance of making it in the NHL, but now recently it seems that they've struggled more than the small agile guys. But more than anything, my philosophy has always been, do you put up points or not. It doesn't matter how good you look or should've could've, if you don't put up points. That was my post-draft captain hindsight criticism of Zacha, he looked great but didn't put up the kinda points you'd except from a guy drafted that high. And guys with high point production, but other concerns like Barzal, DeBrincat and seemingly Caufield, translated just fine to NHL.

If Slaf doesn't score any more in this tournament and ends up with just 2 assists, am I the only one who expected more? All I'm saying is that with his skillset he should be scoring close to PPG when your division has teams like Italy, Kazakshtan, France, Denmark and Germany.
 
Not saying it's the case at all, but just a sense I get reading some comments. But it feels like much how some people may like a guy because they have good size, others like prospects because they're smaller. It's almost as if there are two prospects at a similar level, well the smaller guy must be more skilled because he's smaller and people only want the other guy because size.

Maybe it's just me though
 
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I mean I haven't posted in a while, but Slaf has been my pick for the devils ever since the olympics, and I've wrote it here several times, incase you guys misunderstood my post. I hope they pick him cause he's the most exciting of them all and the ceiling could be huge. But can I still have my concerns and fears? I know that he doesn't play anything like Kakko or Zacha, but them and even someone like Lafreniere struggling do give me some doubts. Back in the day, it was the physical ready guys who would have the best chance of making it in the NHL, but now recently it seems that they've struggled more than the small agile guys. But more than anything, my philosophy has always been, do you put up points or not. It doesn't matter how good you look or should've could've, if you don't put up points. That was my post-draft captain hindsight criticism of Zacha, he looked great but didn't put up the kinda points you'd except from a guy drafted that high. And guys with high point production, but other concerns like Barzal, DeBrincat and seemingly Caufield, translated just fine to NHL.

If Slaf doesn't score any more in this tournament and ends up with just 2 assists, am I the only one who expected more? All I'm saying is that with his skillset he should be scoring close to PPG when your division has teams like Italy, Kazakshtan, France, Denmark and Germany.
Slaf should have had 3 assists today, but his linemates couldn't finish his beautiful feeds. I mean, one of his linemates is Tatar, so I'm sure you understand.
 
From what I’ve seen from slafkovsky:
His ceiling is mikko rantanen while his floor is jesse puljujarvi. He’s more physical and faster than zacha so I don’t think it’s a fair comparison
I'm a big fan of Slafkovsky and I think his upside is enormous but I'm not sure I see the Rantanen comparisons everyone keeps bring up apart from similar size and both having played in Liga. Rantanen was a step above in terms of skating and offensive playmaking in his draft year compared to Slafkovsky, while Slafkovsky is a more physical player that showcases more 200ft potential. Rantanen himself has showcased the ability to drive play as the #1C for the Avalanche when MacKinnon has missed time which is not something I expect to see out of Slafkovsky ever.
 
If we take slaf at two, that top of the second round is a really nice sweet spot for an RHD imo
Even if "The New Russian Factor" causes Perevalov or Miroshnichenko to fall to #37? I guess that's the trillion dollar question.

Other players I'm monitoring quite closely at #37 include Mississauga C Owen Beck (who would be the long-term answer at 3C and might have the highest hockey IQ in the entire 2022 class) and WHL LW Reid Schaefer (who is the Tom Wilson-est player I've seen in quite some time).

Another guy who would fill the 3C role is -- and please don't laugh -- Northeastern University C Jack Hughes. The kid is a heck of a two-way center with near-elite playmaking ability.
 
That right there is the problem. You shouldn’t have said he’s been pretty average without actually watching. Yes the points haven’t come but he’s done a lot and looked really good.
That’s why there’s things much more important than production when scouting prospects.

I have watched, but I obviously can't watch all the games since they broadcast at the same time (noon and evening). So I mostly just see 2 games / day, and even then might flip between. But your criticism is valid, I should have said average production. I couldn't see the Canada game and haven't watched highlights yet, I just saw they got beat by a fair margin so expected there wasn't much story to be told.

It's funny though how incredibly invested you guys are on Slaf already, nobody even commented any of my other assessments. Maybe the devils pass on him, and he falls to Flyers..
 
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I'm a big fan of Slafkovsky and I think his upside is enormous but I'm not sure I see the Rantanen comparisons everyone keeps bring up apart from similar size and both having played in Liga. Rantanen was a step above in terms of skating and offensive playmaking in his draft year compared to Slafkovsky, while Slafkovsky is a more physical player that showcases more 200ft potential. Rantanen himself has showcased the ability to drive play as the #1C for the Avalanche when MacKinnon has missed time which is not something I expect to see out of Slafkovsky ever.
I would argue Slafkovsky has higher playmaking ability than Rantanen and is a superior puck handler, while Rantanen gets an edge in skating and shooting. I agree they're not really "similar" per se, but Slafkovsky is a bit of a unicorn and people often need some sort of comparison for personal reference. Comparisons are always imperfect, I whine about this all the time.

I have watched, but I obviously can't watch all the games since they broadcast at the same time (noon and evening). So I mostly just see 2 games / day, and even then might flip between. But your criticism is valid, I should have said average production. I couldn't see the Canada game and haven't watched highlights yet, I just saw they got beat by a fair margin so expected there wasn't much story to be told.

It's funny though how incredibly invested you guys are on Slaf already, nobody even commented any of my other assessments. Maybe the devils pass on him, and he falls to Flyers..
There is no way on earth Slafkovsky falls to #5. There is, however, the chance he goes #1.
 
I agree 1,000% with this.

Kakko will be a good NHLer, I think a very productive, two-way 2nd line guy. But I'm still embarrassed I had him ranked over Byram, and it's a mistake I learned from. I liked Byram better as a prospect, and the day I put out my final rankings I remember really wanting to rank Byram #2, but I actually did not care to deal with all the flak I knew I'd have to put up with as a result. I still would have had Kakko #3 with Turcotte #4 and Zegras #5. My ranking of Zegras was actually about 3-5 slots higher than the consensus, and we all know how that turned out. I need to stop listening to other people entirely, haha.

But yes, stats are extremely overrated for the draft, especially when they are cited by people who don't scout the prospects or know how to use stats in context. This is why I am constantly ripping on Byron Bader, whose rankings are universally the worst on earth every year and still people listen to him. Can you imagine anyone paying attention to Corey Pronman or Cam Robinson if they were standing on soapboxes screaming that Ayrton Martino was better than Mason McTavish? But Bader pretends his snake oil is "science" so he gets away with it for his lemming-like followers.

There needs to be context. I understand a statistical argument saying Joakim Kemell is better than Brad Lambert, because they were the same age on the same team playing the same competition. It checks out that if one is producing significantly more, then -- at least for now -- they are the better offensive player.

But when I had to fight against a litany of lemmings claiming Lucas Raymond was overrated because his numbers in the SHL were poor, it was a very draining experience. And I'm finding the same thing this year with Slafkovsky, whose upside is probably a notch higher than Raymond.

I'm also increasingly disturbed with a seemingly palpable backlash against big and physical players in the draft. The leading goal scorers for the US-NTDP were not Cooley or Nazar, but rather McGroarty and Gauthier. Their stats match up very well with Cooley and Nazar, perhaps even better when you consider McGroarty was leaned one heavily in defensive situations while Cooley was usually sheltered more to the offensive, while Gauthier was shuffled from line to line in almost an "ignition" role. But some of the same "numbers"/"size means nothing" people who are arguing Cooley for the top 3 overall are ranking the extremely physical McGroarty and Gauthier as low as the 2nd round!

Now, I have Gauthier at #7 and McGroarty at #14. I love both these prospects. But I have them lower than my 5/6 of Nazar/Cooley, simply because I see Nazar/Cooley as line-drivers and Gauthier as a power-forward/sniper. McGroarty is a bit different, I see him as middle six because his skating is only average -- but I do see him as an elite middle-six center who mixes scoring, physicality and two-way play. But when I see a guy like Will Scouching (I respect what he does, but his rankings are perennially quite poor) ranking McGroarty at #56 overall... well, I just have to laugh. But Scouching will admit to not using compete level or physicality or size even remotely in his rankings, while heavily relying on statistics without context, and this is a big part of where they fail every single year.

I agree with you that numbers are just a short cut for the draft-day Johnny-come-lately's to waltz in on May 10th and pretend they know as much if not more than people like yourself and myself and the great draft analysts like Steve Kournianos and Cam Robinson awho have watched the prospects all year long. Then, they push their invented narratives with platitudes about how size and physicality and character intangibles are irrelevant, as if we should be ashamed of ourselves for even thinking being 6'4 or having an elite compete level will somehow make a prospect more likely to succeed. And although it's kind of transparent and pathetic, it's also part of human nature.
If you will not listen other people you will not grow on yourself. Sky is a limit.
 
There is no way on earth Slafkovsky falls to #5. There is, however, the chance he goes #1.

My point was more how much backpedaling there would be if "our" hyped prospect ended up into our rival's hands. I'm just trying to look all of these guys objectively and not fall too much in love with any of them until I know who we got.

Here's my list btw, who devils should draft:
1. Wright
2. Slaf
3. Jiricek
4. Cooley
5. Nemec/Gauthier
7. Kemell/Lambert/Öhgren/Nazar

I'd probably have Cooley at #2 if we already didn't have so many Cs. I don't get why you and other devils fans don't love him as he seems exactly the type of guy who we already love in our team. Smallish speedy agile skater with good defensive game and playmaking abilities. If you could draft a guy who is a mix of Hughes/Hischier/Bratt, wouldn't you?
 
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Post this question again in my draft ranking thread and I'll give you a more detailed response. Here's the quick one:

Casey: excellent on both sides of the puck, but lacking any dynamic ability either way and just 160 pounds. Should go in the 1st half of the 2nd round.

Chesley: best defensive defenseman int he draft, with a cannon for a shot. Undervalued because of stat-nonsense, a la Jake Sanderson and Brock Faber, who now might be the #1 and #10 prospect in the NHL right now. He'll go in the 1st half of the first round.

Luneau: very high floor, very good two-ways, no weakness; but also no singular elite trait. Late 1st pick.

Nelson: dynamic offensively and loves the big open-ice hit, but a horror show defensively. Like, really really bad. Should have been converted to forward. Could get taken late 1st by a team which over-relies on stats, but more likely early 2nd.

Salomonsson: unbelievable tools but you have to worry about the tool-box. Should be fighting Nemec and Jiricek for top defender in the draft, but questions about IQ/compete will drop him to the late 1st/early 2nd.

Lamoureaux: 6'7 and loves to crush people, also with deceptively good skating and puck skills. Very raw, but in 5 years could be a memorable draft-day steal in the early to mid-2nd round.

You left out:

Noah Warren: 6'5 and fast/athletic, and terrific defensively with maybe the most raw physicality of any defender in the draft. No offense however, which could drop him to the late 2nd/early 3rd. He's around the top of my wish list with the Devils 3rd round pick.

Sam Rinzel: more upside than any of these guys except maybe Lamoureux, Rinzel is 6'4 and can fly with exceptional offensive instincts. He's the Scott Morrow of the 2022 draft.

Vladimir Grudinin: maybe the fastest RD in the draft and supremely offensively skilled, but small and needs work on 200-foot game.

These are my (overall) rankings for RD:

3 Jiricek
4 Nemec
12 Chesley
26 Luneau
30 Rinzel
38 Lamoureux
44 Warren
57 Casey
98 Salomonsson
101 Grudinin
129 Nelson
I know it’s not the right thread for this but these threads on draft prospects seem interchangeable. What would your dream picks for nj be for the first 3 rounds?

Based on how you described these defenseman lamoureux and warren sound like ideal partners for Luke hughes. In another post you mentioned a LW Tom Wilson type or 3c in the other jack hughes. If we draft a lw with our first pick then I wouldn’t mind taking shots at rd with our next 2 picks if those two defenseman are there. I wouldn’t be surprised if we drafted another goalie this year. I know you don’t like ranking them.

I also wouldn’t mind trading one of bahl/okhotyuk/mukhamadullin in either a hockey trade (packaged with zacha) or to acquire another late first/early second since we seem to have a log jam of nhl ready LD. Btw my preference would be to keep bahl and mukhamadullin and trade okhotyuk
 
Ya I’d say Okhotiuk over Bahl for now . Might change but I really like Okhotiuks game
I did put him in top 5 devils prospects before the season. He has great floor with his physical play, skating and speed. I don't wait much as producer from him, but as defenseman he is very good, he is great on the board and play against better than some of our regular nhl defensemen. We love Siegenthaler game this year and Okhotyuk has obvious real potential to be that type of defenseman. It doesn't cost much and it helps to win games. He is a guy who will help devils win. If Fitz will not make dump move. He ceiling is second pair defensive defenseman who play tough minutes, but even if he will play third pair role, if you wanna win big games, you should have good third pair.
 
Ya I’d say Okhotiuk over Bahl for now . Might change but I really like Okhotiuks game
I went with bahl because he is like 6’6 and would be great on the bottom pair but it’s apparent we are having a logjam of nhl ready left defense. Anyways I didn’t even need to include that all in my comment... I just would like to know what Steven’s preferred/realistic first 3 round picks for the devils are
 
My point was more how much backpedaling there would be if "our" hyped prospect ended up into our rival's hands. I'm just trying to look all of these guys objectively and not fall too much in love with any of them until I know who we got.

Here's my list btw, who devils should draft:
1. Wright
2. Slaf
3. Jiricek
4. Cooley
5. Nemec/Gauthier
7. Kemell/Lambert/Öhgren/Nazar

I'd probably have Cooley at #2 if we already didn't have so many Cs. I don't get why you and other devils fans don't love him as he seems exactly the type of guy who we already love in our team. Smallish speedy agile skater with good defensive game and playmaking abilities. If you could draft a guy who is a mix of Hughes/Hischier/Bratt, wouldn't you?
Cooley's upside is not remotely close to Hughes, and I'd say it's just shy of Hischier. Bratt is harder to compare because C vs. W, but I'd say they're similar-type players with similar-type talent.

Comparing Cooley to Hughes is just not fair to Cooley. If Cooley were on that 2018-19 US-NTDP, he'd be the 4th line center after Hughes, Turcotte and Zegras. I know Turcotte's star has dimmed a bit, but keep in mind he was a better player than Zegras in their draft-eligible campaign.

If we're using the #2 pick on Kemell, Lambert or Ohgren everyone in the front office should be immediately fired and replaced with garden gnomes.

My list, which is probably well-known:

1 Slafkovsky
2 Jiricek
3 Nemec
4 there is no 4
 
I went with bahl because he is like 6’6 and would be great on the bottom pair but it’s apparent we are having a logjam of nhl ready left defense. Anyways I didn’t even need to include that all in my comment... I just would like to know what Steven’s preferred/realistic first 3 round picks for the devils are
I just posted a simulated draft on my mock draft thread. Here's another realistic option:

#2 overall: Slafkovsky. At this point, he just has to be the pick.

#37 overall: best case scenario is one of the potential star Russians falls due to the New Russian Factor. LW Miroshnichenko would be a coup. The Devils could easily have the two highest-upside players in the entire draft with Slafkovsky and Miro. But another coup would be RW Perevalov, who is #8 overall on my rankings. He's an elite compete/IQ guy with a trio of elite skills in shooting/vision/puckhandling.

If the Russians don't fall so far, I'm of course thinking about RD, which the Devils must address in this draft. I don't think Tristan Luneau will fall so far, so the sky-high upsides of Sam Rinzel and Maveric Lamoureux would jump off the page, and they're both around 50% bets to be there at #37.

But I might even pass at RD if an answer to the Devils potential future question of 3C slipped here. Owen Beck would be my first choice, followed closely by Jack Hughes and Noah Ostlund. If Nathan Gaucher fell -- unlikely but not impossible -- I'd take him over any of these guys except maybe Beck.

#69 overall: if I don't have a RD yet, I'm probably throwing my rankings out the window and taking RD Noah Warren, because it's a must to get someone for the position.

If I do have a RD drafted, my top choice is LW Reid Schaefer, a Tom Wilson type who can shoot the lights out while being an absolute physical monster. But if I don't have a center drafted yet, I might skip a few two-way Cs up the list like McConnell-Barker, Sapovaliv and Kaskimaki.

Of course, all this might go out the window if another talented Russian falls. It would be tough to pass on the extreme, top-line talent of a Neuchev this late.

3 picks in the 4th round: with three picks here, the Devils can get creative. I'd really love to nab a couple hugely talented sleepers like C Logan Morrison and LW Adam Sykora and LW Kirill Dolzhenkov.

I'd be looking at sleeper RDs like Babarosha and Fisher, and of course a goalie my goalie scout likes. I'd also like to get a potential checking line center like Brennan Ali, Pano Fimis or Liam Arnsby.
 
I just posted a simulated draft on my mock draft thread. Here's another realistic option:

#2 overall: Slafkovsky. At this point, he just has to be the pick.

#37 overall: best case scenario is one of the potential star Russians falls due to the New Russian Factor. LW Miroshnichenko would be a coup. The Devils could easily have the two highest-upside players in the entire draft with Slafkovsky and Miro. But another coup would be RW Perevalov, who is #8 overall on my rankings. He's an elite compete/IQ guy with a trio of elite skills in shooting/vision/puckhandling.

If the Russians don't fall so far, I'm of course thinking about RD, which the Devils must address in this draft. I don't think Tristan Luneau will fall so far, so the sky-high upsides of Sam Rinzel and Maveric Lamoureux would jump off the page, and they're both around 50% bets to be there at #37.

But I might even pass at RD if an answer to the Devils potential future question of 3C slipped here. Owen Beck would be my first choice, followed closely by Jack Hughes and Noah Ostlund. If Nathan Gaucher fell -- unlikely but not impossible -- I'd take him over any of these guys except maybe Beck.

#69 overall: if I don't have a RD yet, I'm probably throwing my rankings out the window and taking RD Noah Warren, because it's a must to get someone for the position.

If I do have a RD drafted, my top choice is LW Reid Schaefer, a Tom Wilson type who can shoot the lights out while being an absolute physical monster. But if I don't have a center drafted yet, I might skip a few two-way Cs up the list like McConnell-Barker, Sapovaliv and Kaskimaki.

Of course, all this might go out the window if another talented Russian falls. It would be tough to pass on the extreme, top-line talent of a Neuchev this late.

3 picks in the 4th round: with three picks here, the Devils can get creative. I'd really love to nab a couple hugely talented sleepers like C Logan Morrison and LW Adam Sykora and LW Kirill Dolzhenkov

I'd be looking at sleeper RDs like Babarosha and Fisher, and of course a goalie my goalie scout likes. I'd also like to get a potential checking line center like Brennan Ali, Pano Fimis or Liam Arnsby.
I really like Sykora. Id be pumped if he is our pick in the 3/4 rounds . Ostlund is another guy i really like if th erussian kids get snapped up
 
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#37 overall: best case scenario is one of the potential star Russians falls due to the New Russian Factor. LW Miroshnichenko would be a coup. The Devils could easily have the two highest-upside players in the entire draft with Slafkovsky and Miro. But another coup would be RW Perevalov, who is #8 overall on my rankings. He's an elite compete/IQ guy with a trio of elite skills in shooting/vision/puckhandling.

I feel like there's a reasonable shot that Miroschnichenko goes even later give his diagnosis, right? Is there a comp for that previously happening?
 
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