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Devils Team Discussion (team/player news and notes) 2015 offseason IX
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As far as I know those are the games televised...
Brooklyndevil
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You don't think that way of evaluating coaches is a bit shallow? If this team looks competitive and they're no lower than 5th from the bottom of the league by the end of the season, then the guy at least did a good job. If they are in a playoff race, then he did a great job. To me, that's where the evaluation should really start. Then you look to see how he impacted individuals. Press Conferences are last on the list for me.
Comparing Hynes to Deboer at this stage, just doesn't make sense.
Outside of the fans on this forum who have very specific arbitrary requirements for a coach, Deboer was considered a very good coach.
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Brooklyndevil
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PL3 was one of two guys rotating and not having a permanent spot on his scrimmage team. I bet if it was a regular season game against the Rangers or Flyers he would have had a permanent spot though!
And isn't this the second time in the last two or three seasons that Patty missed time in training camp/preseason games?
I know Jagr did in the 13-14 camp, I think Patty did too. Or maybe it was last year when Patty missed some time in camp? Either way, I seem to remember it being one of these last two years.
And isn't this the second time in the last two or three seasons that Patty missed time in training camp/preseason games?
I know Jagr did in the 13-14 camp, I think Patty did too. Or maybe it was last year when Patty missed some time in camp? Either way, I seem to remember it being one of these last two years.
ForeverJerseyGirl
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It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive evaluation. Just a simple comparison of interview styles. We still very much don't know how Hynes will turn out. We can only hope for the best.
Devilsgrl35
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I thought I had read the games vs the Flyers would be televised. I guess I made that up or misread. Thanks
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Hynes is absolutely a much more inspiring speaker than DeBoer IMO. I don't even think it's close really.
Maybe that's just because Hynes is just a better speaker than DeBoer, I never thought DeBoer instilled amazing confidence in interviews though.
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It was a quick impression based on their personalities as they present themselves in interviews. So far Hynes projects confidence while PDB never did. Hynes seems like a leader. Time will tell just how effective he is as a coach at the NHL level.
Considering Pete's "success" in the NHL I can't see him as a good coach. You can already tell that Hynes doesn't believe in the country club mentality that PDB apparently bought into. That may change over time as Hynes develops 'his favorites' but for now it's a breath of fresh air.
ForeverJerseyGirl
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Yeah, in my opinion, Hynes is a much better speaker and interview than DeBoer. It is possible that Hynes will ultimately prove that he can't back up his talk (so basically is all flash and no substance), but really Pete hadn't been getting results either and stunting the development of Larsson at least if not other players. He needed to go; we have to hope that his replacement will prove to be better.
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Not to take this off topic, but Kevin Kurz (or maybe it was Curtis Pashelka of the Mercury Times? I forget which one I read it from) had an article on Pete yesterday. And it had some BS quotes about how he plays whoever gives us the best chance to win, contract length and salary/veteran tenure didn't matter. They even had Corey Stillman who played for him in Florida, vouching for him and saying the same thing.
Whether it's this year or next year, Doug will regret this hiring.
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Yes, we already mentioned that one. He asked what are the OTHER games televised. Get with the program!
Darryl Sutter has been mumbling his way through press conferences for years. Being able to talk to the media and being a good coach don't always go hand in hand.
ForeverJerseyGirl
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Nobody is arguing that being a good speaker or interview is a sure sign of an excellent coach. We were merely observing that Hynes is a better speaker and interview than Pete. Whether he will be a better NHL coach than Pete remains to be seen, although in all but 2011-2012 Pete didn't establish an insanely high bar in the NHL. I'm excited to see what Hynes can do. He seems to have some great ideas that I'd like to see if he can put into practice and hope that he can.
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MichaelJ
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We've seen firsthand just how untrue that is. I hope with Hynes it's more than just lip service.
Devilsgrl35
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I just hope our fan base is patient with Hynes. He's not going to be a miracle worker in year 1.
ForeverJerseyGirl
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I don't expect Hynes to work miracles. Just hopefully show that he is a better coach for this team than Pete was.
Emperoreddy
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Emperoreddy
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I'm worried some might overreact to Sunday's game. Have to remember Hynes has only started putting the system in. We might look really disorganized against the Bruins.
Emperoreddy
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Bruins sound pretty ****ing disorganized already after the draft and offseason
In the front office, but Julian is still there so they will be established system wise. Just a fair warning.
ForeverJerseyGirl
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Overreaction is always possible with fans, but hopefully we can all remember it's the pre-season and Hynes only had a short time to begin establishing his system.
Not only that, but we're still not very good up front. Hynes pretty much has the same crap to work with at forward that Pete did, although as a whole they might be a little quicker than last year. Hopefully he can come up with something to at least help cover our weaknesses.
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