Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

[Forge]

Actually, looking at palat's contract.... Buy out isn't out of the question next year

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[devilsblood]

Spoke of Keefe's deployment above.

I didn't look at the game break downs, but it makes sense that Nico would be getting the matchup assignments as well. Thing is though, this is not new. Nico has gotten difficult assignments in years past as well.

Should also be noted Nico's line, despite the difficult assignments, is the only one above water in terms of possession. 55% corsi. 56% shots.

Also looks as though Casey is playing as protected of minutes as possible.

 

[devilsblood]

Honestly.. what are we doing with Palat? What’s the cap hit when we buy him out next season? Should we package him with a first rounder?

Not even a concern at this point, but I don't think I'd ever trade a first to get rid of his contract.

 

[MasterofGrond]

I think it's time to let Casey cook in the AHL and call up my boy Misyul

 

[devilsblood]

Sieg's and the great 8 playing getting heavy d-zone workload. Possession numbers not great, but they have done a good job keeping the puck out of the net.

I think it's time to let Casey cook in the AHL and call up my boy Misyul

Nemec as pp2? Not unreasonable, but legitimately the only option at that point.

My guess is they wait until Luke is back. Scoring goals will keep a guy in the lineup.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Comparison Ford]

Actually, looking at palat's contract.... Buy out isn't out of the question next year

what does the buyout penalty look like if it’s done this offseason?

 

[Forge]

what does the buyout penalty look like if it’s done this offseason?

Puckpedia shows it as saving 2.466 next, year, saving 3.4666 the year after and then 2 years of 1.483 dead money

 

[MasterofGrond]

Nemec as pp2? Not unreasonable, but legitimately the only option at that point.

My guess is they wait until Luke is back. Scoring goals will keep a guy in the lineup.

I'd be comfortable with Nemec on PP2 yeah. And I'm not even sure it'd be the right choice, but I think between protecting Casey this much, and having that pairing just not really working, the dropoff on the second PP unit is worth what I think would be a better 5on5 performance.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I think it's time to let Casey cook in the AHL and call up my boy Misyul

they are going to need to make a move once Pesce is ready

 

[Comparison Ford]

Puckpedia shows it as saving 2.466 next, year, saving 3.4666 the year after and then 2 years of 1.483 dead money

if he continues to play the we he has for basically the entire time he’s been here, i can see this being a worthwhile move.

 

[RSeen]

if he continues to play the we he has for basically the entire time he’s been here, i can see this being a worthwhile move.

I could too depending on how much Luke's extension is, but we have majority of our other main players signed so I could see us not buying out Palat after next year.

 

[Devs3cups]

Jack is gonna pop off tomorrow against Utah. I have a feeling.

 

[Hisch13r]

if he continues to play the we he has for basically the entire time he’s been here, i can see this being a worthwhile move.

The first 2 years he was at least a ~2.5 mil player. He was an effective two way 3rd liner which is more than that. If his play falls off big time and/or Cotter is able to effectively take his place in the top 9 and Palat’s a 4th liner then I think a buyout would make sense. If Cotter can’t do that and Palat proves to still be an effective two way 3rd liner we’re better off just keeping him since you’d still have to replace him and it’d be hard to do that for just ~2.5

 

[DerekDevils30]

We expecting Allen in net tomorrow and then Markstrom the day after at Carolina?

 

[Forge]

We expecting Allen in net tomorrow and then Markstrom the day after at Carolina?

Maybe I'm in the minority, but feel like I'd rather play Markstrom against Utah given their early season offense

 

[My3Sons]

If you buy out Palat who is playing better than him for any aporeciable discount?

 

[Cheddabombs]

Where Pesci

 

[Hisch13r]

If you buy out Palat who is playing better than him for any aporeciable discount?

The hope is it'd be Cotter taking his place in the top 9 and then you sign someone cheap to fill in the 4th line spot. 2 games in and Cotter looks a lot better than Palat. We'll see how the rest of the year goes.

 

[Forge]

If you buy out Palat who is playing better than him for any aporeciable discount?

I think it mostly depends on what you think you're getting from Palat.

If he's on the 4th and you're paying him to win board battles, but only puts up 5-6 goals and 15-20 points (obviously super early to make any sort of projection when it comes to his production), I don't think it's crazy to think that you can get something similar from a guy you sign for like 1.1 million or something and then pocket the buyout difference for extensions and what not.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Where Pesci

 

[devilsblood]

Palat was one of our best on ice fwd's last year. #1 in terms of xGF%.

He's expensive yes, and doesn't bring much in terms of individual offense, but with him on the team we have depth options and the big reason we brought him in is for playoff experience, which did prove valuable in his first year.

So 3 regular season games into his 3rd year with the team, I'm not looking at the potential of buying him out.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I don't even love Palat, but still not sure what exactly he is preventing us from doing cap wise at the moment.

I also don't see him being on the 4th line for any extended amount of time.

 

[devilsblood]

Puckpedia shows it as saving 2.466 next, year, saving 3.4666 the year after and then 2 years of 1.483 dead money

He'd be dead money in all 4 years. Yes you save money in 2 of them, but it's still dead money, and then tack on an additional 2 years.

Instead of just paying him to play for 2 years.

I know there are cap ramifications, and we have to get other guys signed, but if we can get those guys signed without buying him out, that is what I would rather do.