Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

[billingtons ghost]

By god, it's almost as good as Larsson, Gelinas, Merrill and Urbom!

That was mean, man. There were some of us (fools) that were sure that was going to be our next great backend.

 

[MadDevil]

That was mean, man. There were some of us (fools) that were sure that was going to be our next great backend.

I was a Great Santini believer.

 

[Oneiro]

The Urbom enthusiasm was always funny. Dude was a grenade handler every single call-up, which was the real meaning behind Urbomb Squad.

I always liked Lars and Merrill, but we just needed someone exactly like the three kids we have now who are all insanely talented, poised and smart. It feels like they Wukong-ed aspects of Niedermayer into Luke, Nemec and Casey.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

It’s early and probably a bit over reactionary but two major concerns right now.

-Jack Hughes sucking and always going through fairly longish phases of sucking that are ignored because he still puts up some points.

-No bottom 6 speed. Cotter and Lazar have speed. Every single other depth forward we have is undoubtedly slow and it sucks. Bastian is probably the next fastest and that’s not good. And then the second someone’s injured we bring in Kurtis MacDermid who is slower than all of them. Who’s after that? The barely faster Nolan Foote. Talked about it in the summer but we’ve sacrificed wayy to much speed in our forward group.

Otherwise. Goaltending is better and defence should sort itself out (although less defensive laziness from the forwards would help).

 

[billingtons ghost]

The Urbom enthusiasm was always funny. Dude was a grenade handler every single call-up, which was the real meaning behind Urbomb Squad.

I always liked Lars and Merrill, but we just needed someone exactly like the three kids we have now who are all insanely talented, poised and smart. It feels like they Wukong-ed aspects of Niedermayer into Luke, Nemec and Casey.

Awesome. I was all about all of them. And lars and Merrill carved out nice careers. Gelibombs? Sign me up. I'm pretty of the Urbomsquad

 

[My3Sons]

It’s early and probably a bit over reactionary but two major concerns right now.

-Jack Hughes sucking and always going through fairly longish phases of sucking that are ignored because he still puts up some points.

-No bottom 6 speed. Cotter and Lazar have speed. Every single other depth forward we have is undoubtedly slow and it sucks. Bastian is probably the next fastest and that’s not good. And then the second someone’s injured we bring in Kurtis MacDermid who is slower than all of them. Who’s after that? The barely faster Nolan Foote. Talked about it in the summer but we’ve sacrificed wayy to much speed in our forward group.

Otherwise. Goaltending is better and defence should sort itself out (although less defensive laziness from the forwards would help).

it’s obvious team is only going to go as far as Paul Cotter can carry them.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

it’s obvious team is only going to go as far as Paul Cotter can carry them.

lol I mean if he gets hurt we’ll have by far the slowest bottom 6 in the league. If we don’t already

 

[Whaddagoal]

It’s early and probably a bit over reactionary but two major concerns right now.

-Jack Hughes sucking and always going through fairly longish phases of sucking that are ignored because he still puts up some points.

-No bottom 6 speed. Cotter and Lazar have speed. Every single other depth forward we have is undoubtedly slow and it sucks. Bastian is probably the next fastest and that’s not good. And then the second someone’s injured we bring in Kurtis MacDermid who is slower than all of them. Who’s after that? The barely faster Nolan Foote. Talked about it in the summer but we’ve sacrificed wayy to much speed in our forward group.

Otherwise. Goaltending is better and defence should sort itself out (although less defensive laziness from the forwards would help).

Ahem, I hear Jesper Boqvists music in South Florida playing. He's the fastest bottom 6 player you can ask for.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Ahem, I hear Jesper Boqvists music in South Florida playing. He's the fastest bottom 6 player you can ask for.

Still annoyed they let him go

 

[NjDevsRR]

Hopefully the team has a good showing on Saturday because they have an early gm Monday then right back at it on Tuesday. Not much practice time.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Nemec had a very bad game tonight, wonder if his shoulder is still bothering him.

 

[bigd]

Nemec had a very bad game tonight, wonder if his shoulder is still bothering him.

He had a rough preseason. I think as soon as we get some injured D-men back he will be sent to Utica.

 

[Devs3cups]

Nemec had a very bad game tonight, wonder if his shoulder is still bothering him.

Love Nemec but he’s looked a bit rusty since the start of the season. Not worried about him getting into his groove soon, maybe he’s getting into a bit of a sophomore slump. Who knows.

Nemec-Casey doesn’t really seem to be working overall right now though.

 

[Triumph]

R-R pairings don't work. The Devils have to know this, and they have to be looking at remedying this somehow.

 

[Omar Little]

Nemec demonstrates a somewhat consistent lack of urgency when he's going back to retrieve pucks. It gets him in trouble when teams are heavily forechecking

 

[Devs3cups]

Nemec demonstrates a somewhat consistent lack of urgency when he's going back to retrieve pucks. It gets him in trouble when teams are heavily forechecking

Yeah, he’s always been super calm, but sometimes it works against him. He’ll learn.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

A game like last night is where they missed Luke so much, not many clean breakouts or a defender who was willing to rush up the ice at all. They'll get it fixed, I don't have much doubt in this roster.

 

[guitarguyvic]

It’s early and probably a bit over reactionary but two major concerns right now.

-Jack Hughes sucking and always going through fairly longish phases of sucking that are ignored because he still puts up some points.

-No bottom 6 speed. Cotter and Lazar have speed. Every single other depth forward we have is undoubtedly slow and it sucks. Bastian is probably the next fastest and that’s not good. And then the second someone’s injured we bring in Kurtis MacDermid who is slower than all of them. Who’s after that? The barely faster Nolan Foote. Talked about it in the summer but we’ve sacrificed wayy to much speed in our forward group.

Otherwise. Goaltending is better and defence should sort itself out (although less defensive laziness from the forwards would help).

I have a sneaking suspicion that Tatar and Palat are going to be deadweight this year. But I think we enough talent that it won’t hold the team back at least in the regular season. Outside of that I have no concerns about the bottom six. Speed is not the end all be all, otherwise the team two years ago would have won the cup easily.

Jack…I have concerns with. He will put up points no matter what but the other aspects of his game and his vibe going back to last year just isn’t sitting right with me.

 

[MartyOwns]

jack has kind of been a sourpuss dickhead going back to his first postgame interview. it’s the one thing about him i don’t love. but as long as he’s filling the net i’m happy to overlook it.

 

[Satans Hockey]

jack has kind of been a sourpuss dickhead going back to his first postgame interview. it’s the one thing about him i don’t love. but as long as he’s filling the net i’m happy to overlook it.

I hate paint by number interviews so I enjoy how much he hates them too lol

 

[vtdevils2k]

A game like last night is where they missed Luke so much, not many clean breakouts or a defender who was willing to rush up the ice at all. They'll get it fixed, I don't have much doubt in this roster.

Damn good post. He is definitely missed. Great points.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Loss like this sucks, but now Keefe finally got to watch the team play a full on game and all the warts it had to offer. Now he can get to work and fix shit. He saw things last night that he would never have seen in practice or feasting on Buffalo.

Get to work coach.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

jack has kind of been a sourpuss dickhead going back to his first postgame interview. it’s the one thing about him i don’t love. but as long as he’s filling the net i’m happy to overlook it.

But him playing this way shouldn’t be overlooked because of the assist or goal he still puts up. We’re not gonna win shit when he plays like this so often.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Tatar and Palat are going to be deadweight this year. But I think we enough talent that it won’t hold the team back at least in the regular season. Outside of that I have no concerns about the bottom six. Speed is not the end all be all, otherwise the team two years ago would have won the cup easily.

Jack…I have concerns with. He will put up points no matter what but the other aspects of his game and his vibe going back to last year just isn’t sitting right with me.

Agree with most of this but I don’t mind Tatar at all. I think he meshes well in our top 6 and is still a capable player. Palat would be fine as a pure bottom 6 guy but we would be better served with someone who has a little more speed.

Speed isn’t the be all end all but you really want some speed in your bottom 6. We don’t have enough IMO

 

[SansaStark]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Tatar and Palat are going to be deadweight this year. But I think we enough talent that it won’t hold the team back at least in the regular season. Outside of that I have no concerns about the bottom six. Speed is not the end all be all, otherwise the team two years ago would have won the cup easily.

Jack…I have concerns with. He will put up points no matter what but the other aspects of his game and his vibe going back to last year just isn’t sitting right with me.

I've been as big of a jack hater as possible since he returned from injury last year. He has lost something since 22-23. I think alot of it is mental and tentative playing, maybe due to the injury.
We know he had essentially an abrieviated offseason. Rehab involved. Can't imagine he had time to bulk and get his body right before training camp. So is this an extended preseason for him? Maybe...

Either way we can give him a week or two to see if he ramps up back into his old self. But the ill advised passes, the lack of simplicity and tenaciousness in his game is going to forever hold him back if he can't improve on it. He just simply doesn't look like a dominant star player anymore. He doesn't look like the guy that's going to take over a game. I hope he proves me wrong this week in DC or against Utah.

The devils won't sniff a cup finals or a deep playoff run if he doesn't get his shit together.
We don't look like a team that has two 1st overalls who are elite players that dominate the game.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

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