Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part VI

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Guttersniped

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yeah, bastian being out just happened to coincide with the team playing like absolute trash for a month and a half. PROBABLY not because of him, but also, maybe bastian truly is the straw that stirs the drink.

It is known:
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And then @NjDevsRR ‘s Bastionstein

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That helmet lol
 

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Before the 8 game in 11 night death streak started, I think we had like the 8th or 10th hardest remaining schedule.

Now it’s down to 24th. We still have 2 against Buffalo, who have packed it in. 1 more against Ottawa, Chicago, Columbus and Washington. Washington have pretty much packed it in too.

Gotta cash in on those teams.
 

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The Athletic had an article about the future of Detroit’s defense.

After trading away righty Hronek, Detroit had a ton on left, both with older players with term (Walman, Chiarot, Määtä) and a stack top end young players/prospects (Edvinsson, Wallinder, Albert Johansson, Buium, Jared McIsaac, Sebrango).

On the right they have Seider and not much else. RFA Gustav Lindstöm played 30 games in Detroit. They have a couple fringier RHD prospects.

Anyhoo, article talks about which LHD might play on their off-side. (Answer: Chiarot)

And the article went on to discuss Yzerman hitting the UFA RHD market.


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Well, he definitely is the glue of the 4th line.
And honestly the best net front presence we have in the power play. No offense Nico, but you just can't fit the puck out from behind the net and Bastian excels at that.

It wouldn't kill us to have Bastian on Pp1 and make Pp2 better by doing a talented guy down. Right now it's Pp1 or bust and it's more busy than success.
 

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And honestly the best net front presence we have in the power play. No offense Nico, but you just can't fit the puck out from behind the net and Bastian excels at that.

It wouldn't kill us to have Bastian on Pp1 and make Pp2 better by doing a talented guy down. Right now it's Pp1 or bust and it's more busy than success.
I don't know if Bastian would actively make PP1 better, but I guess a knock-on effect would be improving PP2.

I have no problem with the "all or nothing" PP1 though. That's what all the elite PP teams do. Put your best guys out there and let them figure it out. Of the top half of the league PPs, I think literally zero have an "elite" forward on the 2nd unit. Maybe Ottawa, if you'd put Giroux in that category.

The Devils just haven't really figured out a good formation or the chemistry with Meier yet.
 

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The powerplay has 3 guys in my mind who are ideal to build around in terms of being utilized for a one timer. 1) Hamilton , 2)Meier , 3)Bratt in that order. Jack can bury pucks on the onetimer but it isn't his strong suit and he is better off as being the person dishing the puck at that. Jack still has a good shot and has a nose for burying rebounds now. I'd say when our powerplay was really doing well is when Jack gets the puck on top of the circle on the left wing side and he works his way into the high slot to take a shot or to pass the puck to the right side over to Bratt or hopefully Meier. Jack always gets the dman to freeze or back off big time , he has scored alot on thar side by either bearing the goalie clean or through a screen. It's crazy how effective that simple play can be. The defenders always back off and give him space so him making that pass to look for a one timer isn't always there but the chance for him to get a good look/shot almost always is. Hopefully when he regains his confidence we see more of that. If it doesn't seem to work than they need to find a way to feed Dougie the puck for more onetimers from the middle of the ice because he seems to thrive off those too.
 
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Does yall think that uh, Akira Schmid will have more responsibility now too since the reg.season is coming to an end. And will he get the start friday already ?
 

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Jack is hard to play with, but he does have a unique chemistry with Bratt. I don't think there is any current forward duo that makes as many neutral zone give-and-gos as they do.



Just give this line a real run. Tatar-Hischier-Mercer showed a lot of chemistry. So did Palat-Haula-Boqvist.

Let 'em cook!

That's because Bratt plays somewhat of a similar style as Jack and he's the only one who can actually keep up with him on the rush.
 

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I’m going way off topic here . For possible bottom 6 options in the offseason , what do you think we should do . Who do we keep amd who do we let walk / trade / not qualify ?
Who are the locked in , for sure , bottom 6 guys and where do they play (3rd or 4th line )
Id really like to see if we can get Ross Colton off of Tampa as one piece . RFA currently making 1.1 mil. Shouldnt break the bank , perfect bottom 6 player. Grew up in NJ and was a huge Devils fan. Versatile , skilled , has good size . I can’t see Tampa being able to keep him but then again, his salary shouldnt be too much over league min to make that much difference for them?
What do we do with McLeod , Bastian , Wood , Sharangovich , Boqvist , Haula , Foote , Thompson , Clarke , all options for the bottom 6. Does Tatar get extended and stay in the top 6? Does Holtz make the roster amd take a spot , making one of the guys I listed expendable?

I think Wood given he is a UFA and a guy who has struggled to stay healthy the last couple years, gets squeezed out. I think the team likes the energy he brings, as well as the goal scoring, but the injuries have sapped him on both fronts.

Tatar and Haula are also UFA's, but I think both guys can be had on the relative cheap. Haula especially who historically is always on a team friendly deal, and doesn't put up much by way of points. Would like to see Tatar take a bit of a paycut as well given his modest production, but his on ice #'s are fantastic. Little caveat on Tatar in that if he finds himself in the playoff doghouse again, then you probably cut him loose. I'd say that's unlikely given how good he has been this year, but it has happened multiple times before so need to see how that plays out.

I'm really not well versed in RFA projections, but Boq and Shara shouldn't get big raises given their production. If Shara shows he can play a 4th line game, and still score some goals, while also playing on the PK? I think that would be a great replacement for Wood. And we know he can play up the lineup.

McLeod and Bastian are keepers on the 4th line. Again, they should be cheap.

Lazar is the 13th. Holtz, Foote, Thompson, Clarke are all Utica guys to start next season imo, providing that depth in our minor leagues. Is that unfair to a guy like Holtz? Oh well (The real answer is actually no, he, nor any of these other guys, have shown they can actually play in the NHL, yet at least).

So a still very young fwd group, off a big time year, and with multiple acquisitions midseason, I keep the group in tact.



PK all aboard the Nate train. :laugh:

Only thing I'd point out there is, despite him playing banged up, the Devils still have a bunch of games without him in the lineup (I guess he was in Seattle for some of that).

But Nate's cheap, and with Lazar as a 13th we have a similar style player there to replace him when need be.
 

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Are you still there? We would not draft J Hughes if we would not draft Hischier. Butterfly effect. Same story with Luke.
And Makar would not win Norris and SC with Conn Smyth especially without NM29 and MR96. There are no universe where you are happy with result of that draft. So please, let’s calm down and deal with PPG center who can play good enough to score 30+ goals and compete for Selky. Let's call it a consolation prize.
200 foot players just don't get the credit they deserve and how Nico gets criticized and overlooked is beyond me...Produces and plays the full sheet SMH
 
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