Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[Classic Devil]

They prob don’t want to wait around is my guess

Saw some plan B moves made today

Yes. Because we're still building for the future, we have the luxury to wait until the very, very end before making a move. Other teams whose windows are fully open and need to build for right now do not have the luxury of waiting and risking getting nothing.

 

[Blender]

 

[MadDevil]

What I don't get us why is Carolina out now if they wanted him without an extension all along?

You'd think we're the ones that would drop out if that's true.

Maybe that's not the only reason they dropped out?

 

[Alex NJD]

he literally looks like bastian and mcleod combined

Holy crap I see it

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

What I don't get us why is Carolina out now if they wanted him without an extension all along?

You'd think we're the ones that would drop out if that's true.

They don't want to wait + Carolina has a history of not going above what they want for a player which you can love or hate them for it but it's worked out tremendously in most cases for them. Hamliton at 9M v DeAngelo at 1M, for example. I'm glad they did they let the former but based on the cap the latter was obviously a better move even though it blew up in their faces last year in the playoffs

 

[JrFischer54]

Trade Mercer?!?! Lol I’m more worried about how much we’re going to have to pay to sign him long term.

That’s what I said awhile back yeah he’s rfa but if he progresses like everyone thinks then it’s not going to be a cheap deal.

Good problem to have though

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Yes. Because we're still building for the future, we have the luxury to wait until the very, very end before making a move. Other teams whose windows are fully open and need to build for right now do not have the luxury of waiting and risking getting nothing.

Happened with Gaudreau too, I'm sure there was a random contender who called about Gaudreau on the East Coast, the Islanders rumors were there.

 

[DEVILS130]

No idea why the Sharks seem so against teams negotiating an extension to drive up price. Not a good look for Grier as a rookie GM

 

[FinnishDevil]

he literally looks like bastian and mcleod combined

The SuperBuddy

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

Just realized we are 15-3-2 over our last 20 games

Pretty amazing since teams have figured us out and our coach is not capable of adjusting Not to mention all of his horrible lineup decisions

 

[DerekDevils30]

Just realized we are 15-3-2 over our last 20 games

Wouldn’t know it based on some of the posts in our GDT’s

 

[Captain3rdLine]

No idea why the Sharks seem so against teams negotiating an extension to drive up price. Not a good look for Grier as a rookie GM

I can see the logic both ways. It can give Meier’s camp more control than they like. If the extension is important for most teams but Meier narrows it down to one team it can make it harder for Grier and lower the price.

And I don’t see how it’s gonna drive up the price either. Just makes it happen quicker but I’m not sure they’re in a rush. Seems more like they’re waiting for someone to really pay up which may not happen. Worse case they give him the QO and revisit in the summer.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Pretty amazing since teams have figured us out and our coach is not capable of adjusting Not to mention all of his horrible lineup decisions

Still gonna complain about Zetterlund out because I'm spoiled brat and wanted to see if his quads or Stevens's biceps are bigger.

I can see the logic both ways. It can give Meier’s camp more control than they like. If the extension is important for most teams but Meier narrows it down to one team it can make it harder for Grier and lower the price.

And I don’t see how it’s gonna drive up the price either. Just makes it happen quicker but I’m not sure they’re in a rush. Seems more like they’re waiting for someone to really pay up which may not happen. Worse case they give him the QO and revisit in the summer.

SJ would be better off taking the offer that's best right now because that offer is going to be complete shit in the summer.

 

[MadDevil]

Still gonna complain about Zetterlund out because I'm spoiled brat and wanted to see if his quads or Stevens's biceps are bigger.

 

[BostonDevil]

Basically the Sharks are not signing him before the trade or allowing the team acquiring him to talk extension before. Friedman is saying you acquire him and figure out a contract afterwards.

Isn’t that dumb? Wouldn’t you get more if parameters of a deal are allowed to be worked out before the trade?

I see this as GREAT for NJ. They give up less without talking to him, yet knowing that he’s willing to sign here.

Other teams see that writing on the wall and are dropping out.

Timo somewhat forcing his way to NJ? If it’s true, nice to be on this side for once.

 

[Forge]

Just realized we are 15-3-2 over our last 20 games

Doesn't make sense. Basically the same team as last year

No idea why the Sharks seem so against teams negotiating an extension to drive up price. Not a good look for Grier as a rookie GM

Personally I think the extension adds less value than people think

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Still gonna complain about Zetterlund out because I'm spoiled brat and wanted to see if his quads or Stevens's biceps are bigger.



SJ would be better off taking the offer that's best right now because that offer is going to be complete shit in the summer.

They probably want to trade him now but are really hoping someone will really try to make it happen. Seems less likely with other teams starting to look at back up options and get impatient.

 

[Nubmer6]

No idea why the Sharks seem so against teams negotiating an extension to drive up price. Not a good look for Grier as a rookie GM

What of we talked to Claude and they're demanding 9.5M for 8 years. They don't want to risk us backing out.

 

[DevilsHughes86]

Isn’t that dumb? Wouldn’t you get more if parameters of a deal are allowed to be worked out before the trade?

I see this as GREAT for NJ. They give up less without talking to him, yet knowing that he’s willing to sign here.

Other teams see that writing on the wall and are dropping out.

Timo somewhat forcing his way to NJ? If it’s true, nice to be on this side for once.

Yup, Fitz needs to keep playing his cards right here and have Grier fold!

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

They probably want to trade him now but are really hoping someone will really try to make it happen. Seems less likely with other teams starting to look at back up options and get impatient.

Vegas - interconference/division tax + nothing to offer

Carolina - for as scary as they are, their organization draws a line at every player contract wise and never goes over it. They could also be scared that if they continue messing around with Timo they could lose their plan B options and with their timeline like Nino today, they can't afford it like NJ

Devils - they have nothing to lose here and can out wait every team and if he doesn't come here, so be it

 

[Bcap88]

This is prob getting done tomorrow or the day after I would assume based off the rumors

Carolina can’t afford to wait until deadline day while we can. Carolina needs help in fbe top 6 they might pivot

 

[DevilsHughes86]

I watched a lot of the Blues game this afternoon and I must admit Barbashev was really really good. I don't know what the Blues will ask and get in return, but the guy was really solid and I think can help us not only for this year but years to come.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I watched a lot of the Blues game this afternoon and I must admit Barbashev was really really good. I don't know what the Blues will ask and get in return, but the guy was really solid and I think can help us not only for this year but years to come.

Canes target could easily be him, he's phenomenal in space and their centers create a ton of space for them as is.

 

[JrFischer54]

Doesn't make sense. Basically the same team as last year


Personally I think the extension adds less value than people think

Good goaltending production from Hamilton. Career years from jack Nico bratt. That’s the difference add a piece to polish off the season

 

[Forge]

I watched a lot of the Blues game this afternoon and I must admit Barbashev was really really good. I don't know what the Blues will ask and get in return, but the guy was really solid and I think can help us not only for this year but years to come.

The reported comp was a second + prospect or maybe a first