Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III
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Poppy Whoa Sonnet
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Johnsson's got a 3.4 m cap hit and 750k salary post signing bonus. That makes him interesting to only one type of team really: A team looking to cheaply hit the cap floor. His cap hit is prohibitive for like 25 teams minimum. Really wouldn't be surprised if he cleared waivers, basically just need Arizona/Buffalo/Anaheim to not be interested.
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My guess for Johnsson is Arizona is 1 of the 10 teams on his NTC list. He may not waive to get traded there, but may not have a choice via waivers since he doesn't have a NMC. In fact, a lot of the bottom dwellers with cap space could be those teams on the list. A team like Chicago may not be though, since they didn't implode everything until this summer, but weren't very good last season either.
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Johnsson does have a 10 team NTC so if Fitz did try to shop him that could have blocked those teams and waivers wouldn’t.
Teams obviously use the threat of waivers to get guys to waive their NTC.
Not sure those teams are in the market for him.
Buffalo is crowded at forward, going cheap, and also not taking cap dump roster players in part because they’re building a culture. (If Bernier was worse off we could dump him there but he could get off the LTIR.)
Arizona is likely going to hover around the edge of the cap floor awhile until they get closer to getting out of the 5k arena. It seems possible with his salary.
Anaheim has been a budget team when not winning. I don’t know what the plan is there. They have the pick of the litter with winger cap dumps, it seems like half the league has a guy they want to pawn off.
We’ve had guys get injured in pre-season in the past, Fitz might be seeing how it goes. I’m pretty confident that at least one of the bigger contracts would get waived, that creates valuable cap space.
Zetterlund is the cheapest possible option we have on forward, he’s cheaper than guys on ELC who also all have bonuses. We aren’t going to pass up having a guy who can produce at 750k when we’re in a cap crunch. It makes no sense to me.
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Holtz basically saying he's worked on pretty much every single thing that people here have said he needed to work on. Excited to see him get going.
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Comparable or better players than Johnsson will be on waivers in a few weeks for less cap hit, and too much of the league is up against the cap anyway. No one will claim him.
You seem to have skipped over all the posts explaining why Johnsson is an attractive waiver claim for a few teams, even while he would be passed over by 25+ teams without a thought. If Johnsson had no bonuses in his contract, I would agree with you, there's no way anyone claims him at that price. But at a $750,000 salary? I'd say it's more likely than not.
That’s my thought. If roster management comes down to
1 - waive Zetterlund to carry an extra defender instead
2- LTIR Bernier so you can ice the team you want and have some cap implication for next season
Or
3- send Johnsson or Tatar or Wood if he’s gimpy to Utica to create a roster spot and $1 mil in cap space without using LTIR
If they go with option 1 I’d be very disappointed.
I hope you are correct. He’s a meh bottom six player with no future in NJ so a team picking him up on waivers takes care of a number of problems
EP Rinkside has Nemec, Holtz, and Hughes rated as the NHL's 18th, 16th, and 15th best prospects.
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EP Rinkside has Nemec, Holtz, and Hughes rated as the NHL's 18th, 16th, and 15th best prospects.
Ranking the NHL's top 100 affiliated prospects in 2022: Skaters 25-1
The Elite Prospects affiliated skater prospects ranking countdown comes to an end with J.D. Burke's writeup on the 25 best prospects yet to establish themselves as full-time NHLers.
Who the hell do they have 1-14????
Luke Hughes is far and away the #1 prospect in hockey.
Nemec should find himself in the 5-10 range, and Holtz probably in the 25-35 range.
That list must be absolute garbage.
Zetterlund would have to have a REALLY poor camp for the Devils to waive him.
He's going to be on the roster.
Nazar, Johnson, Eklund, Perfetti, Rossi, Slafvkovsky, Jiricek, Wright, McTavish, Sanderson, Edvinsson, Power, and Beniers are rated 14 through 1.
I generally like EP Rinkside's write-ups and content. I dunno man, prospects are prospects. Hard to project who will really best in the NHL in this kind of ranking. They have most of these players separated by 1 "tier" at most anyway.
Stephen Gionta
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Power and Beniers are no longer prospects IMO.
So I'll say it again - Luke Hughes is far and away the best drafted prospect in hockey.
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That's the only thing I care about from that entire clip. Let's see if he actually is able to this year. Glad he knows it.
EP used being eligible for the Calder as their definition of a prospect. Seems fair.
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I had to call them out on this bullshit on Twitter, having him at #15 is a God damn joke.
I'd have him rated higher too, but he's in the same tier as everyone pre-Perfetti on that list. I don't think there is much distinction within tiers.
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No, I'm not serious.
If you want to say Sanderson or edvinsson or power or beniers or wright are better, I disagree but that’s all pretty defensible.
Having him below nazar etc. is a SPICY take.
Having him below nazar etc. is a SPICY take.
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after the WJC i don't understand how anyone could have came away with that thinking Jiricek is a better prospect than Hughes? its not defensible, it means they literally have an agenda.
Jiricek was garbage and I saw nothing to justify him as better prospect than either Nemec or Hughes.
Edvinsson was very disappointing and Hughes popped off the screen in ways I couldnt even imagine Edvinsson doing. So confused about that too.
Edvinsson being heralded as the next Lidstrom and I'm watching the WJC thinking wtf. Don't get it.
Maybe he looked infinitely better in Liiga or wherever he plays. Regardless ranking hughes below Jiricek is plain biased
Jiricek was garbage and I saw nothing to justify him as better prospect than either Nemec or Hughes.
Edvinsson was very disappointing and Hughes popped off the screen in ways I couldnt even imagine Edvinsson doing. So confused about that too.
Edvinsson being heralded as the next Lidstrom and I'm watching the WJC thinking wtf. Don't get it.
Maybe he looked infinitely better in Liiga or wherever he plays. Regardless ranking hughes below Jiricek is plain biased
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It`s ok mark. Not inflated expectations - the result is more pleasant. I would rank Hughes higher, but I would not give him #1 rank or even top 3. And it isn`t bad. Some prospects doing everything well, or\and very flashy, but on nhl level they are average. Everything can happen(you know where). Guy like Slafkovsky could be monster on the wing with Nico(or Jack). How he will develop in montreal? Will see, but I can`t believe he can be best version there. Guys like Wright and Mctavish could be under very big pressure, but they have Beniers and Zegras in their teams, so they can take a breath.
But Jiricek? or Eklund? I would certainly debate with these comrades.
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