I'm playing the better one there. If it would end up being Wright. It ends up being Wright.
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I'm playing the better one there. If it would end up being Wright. It ends up being Wright.
Factoring in their expected contracts, I'm much more enthused by the idea of Forsberg, Nichushkin, Neiderreiter, or Burakovsky than Gaudreau or trading assets for Fiala. Any of them still improve us immediately and carry less long term risk of being an anchor contract.
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Thing is Johnny G will be damn close to same price and contract as Forsberg. I’d prefer Johnny over Forsberg , Forsberg shot a crazy shooting % this year that won’t be duplicated. Nuke (as much as a want him ) probably won’t come to play for Ruff. Burakovsky is not the type of player we need.
Neiderreider is a good price for sure . Same as Marchment . I’m out on Fiala if it involves us trading pick #2 in any way (trading down then using assets from that on Fiala) .
I’m wanting :
Keep Pick #2
Try to sign Neids Marchement Nuke Lyubushkin
Get a goalie
Look at cost of Johhny G
Possibly trading for Tkachuk or Meier if cost is not completely insane
Johnny G is not an expiring contract. He will be a UFA if flames don’t sign him soon so,it would likely be 7 years for him and I think he is the type of player that ages better than others . Like a P Kane.
That's right, Ivan Ivan and Marcel Marcel are on the same team.
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No real news other than at least we're not losing Bryce to a coaching job it would seem, although I wouldn't mind him on our bench
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I don't think we can trade for Tkachuk or Meier without the #2OA being in play? Do you?
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Unfortunate, nope. Unless it’s some other crazy pieces like 2023 #1st rounder and or Mercer . I’d try to do whatever we could without including Mercer or pick #2 (I love Slafkovsky) , but it would take something very painful to give up to get one of those guys . I’m just not sure what I’d be ok with . If anything .
Fellow Devils fans will want to kill me for saying it , but I’d consider trading Bratt for Tkachuk / Meier . Not sure what else would be needed or what the fallout would be in the locker room if Bratt was moved . I cant see Bratt getting moved ever unless he wants a crazy crazy amount of $$ .
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What does the “prefect” offseason look like to you guys ?
Mine is :
In:
Slafkovsky
Gaudreau
Husso ( I’m praying for a miracle like trading for Hellebuyck or offer sheeting Ottenger)
Marchment
Lyubushkin
Other possibilities / options - Trade for Puljujarvi , offer sheet Kakko , trade for Fiala , Miller , Meier .
Out :
Zacha
Johnson
Ty Smith
Tatar
Maybe trade Holtz for ??
I do t see the need unless we don’t sign anyone like Gaudreu or Forsberg . It’s very very unlikely we do , so perhaps we do make a move for Fiala , but no way in hell do I want to do that by trading pick #2 .
Gaudreau is all over the place for me . Adding a player that just had one of the best 5 on5 seasons since the early 90’s is pretty impressive , however I’m nit sure the cap room It would take to sign him is the best way to construct a roster.
We have Bratt and Hughes that play a very similar way to Johnny . Who would carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the O zone? Hughes is a beast at that and so is Bratt . Johnny seems to thrive off of that as well . Would that be taking away from each other’s game then?
Plus Johnny is not really a “heavier” player … at all…. At 10+ million per ( my guess ) , I’m not sure if that’s the best way to construct a roster.
But with signing Johnny , you get a top 5 LW in the NHL and giving up zero assets….
Anyone as good or better would cost us at least pick #2 and or Holtz / 2023 forst rounder / Mercer ( god no , never Mercer)
Here is my bat-shit crazy idea. Sign Johnny G . Trade Bratt ( plus ?) for Tkachuk ( only if Bratt flat out refuses anything close to reasonable . I love the lplauer and do NOT want to trade him )
Move out Johnson Zacha Tatar to try to make some more cap room .
Add Johnny G and Tkachuck
Johnny Hughes Tkachuk line ….
Slafkovsky Nico Holtz (eventual ) line
Not sure how I’d like that. As much as I like Tkachuck , I don’t want to move Bratt . Ever.
Johnny and Tkachuck would cost a shit ton and we could be pretty damn top heavy then.
Mine is :
In:
Slafkovsky
Gaudreau
Husso ( I’m praying for a miracle like trading for Hellebuyck or offer sheeting Ottenger)
Marchment
Lyubushkin
Other possibilities / options - Trade for Puljujarvi , offer sheet Kakko , trade for Fiala , Miller , Meier .
Out :
Zacha
Johnson
Ty Smith
Tatar
Maybe trade Holtz for ??
I do t see the need unless we don’t sign anyone like Gaudreu or Forsberg . It’s very very unlikely we do , so perhaps we do make a move for Fiala , but no way in hell do I want to do that by trading pick #2 .
Gaudreau is all over the place for me . Adding a player that just had one of the best 5 on5 seasons since the early 90’s is pretty impressive , however I’m nit sure the cap room It would take to sign him is the best way to construct a roster.
We have Bratt and Hughes that play a very similar way to Johnny . Who would carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the O zone? Hughes is a beast at that and so is Bratt . Johnny seems to thrive off of that as well . Would that be taking away from each other’s game then?
Plus Johnny is not really a “heavier” player … at all…. At 10+ million per ( my guess ) , I’m not sure if that’s the best way to construct a roster.
But with signing Johnny , you get a top 5 LW in the NHL and giving up zero assets….
Anyone as good or better would cost us at least pick #2 and or Holtz / 2023 forst rounder / Mercer ( god no , never Mercer)
Here is my bat-shit crazy idea. Sign Johnny G . Trade Bratt ( plus ?) for Tkachuk ( only if Bratt flat out refuses anything close to reasonable . I love the lplauer and do NOT want to trade him )
Move out Johnson Zacha Tatar to try to make some more cap room .
Add Johnny G and Tkachuck
Johnny Hughes Tkachuk line ….
Slafkovsky Nico Holtz (eventual ) line
Not sure how I’d like that. As much as I like Tkachuck , I don’t want to move Bratt . Ever.
Johnny and Tkachuck would cost a shit ton and we could be pretty damn top heavy then.
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ChicksDigTheTrap
No quick fixes, no cutting corners and no cheating
Neither Tkachuk or Meier will have an extension in place by July 7 so the 2OA will not be traded for either one.
Eggtimer
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Yes , sorry l I keep forgetting that . Any way teams “unofficially “ discuss that or is that tampering
About the only player in the NHL Id trade Bratt for that is somewhat close to reasonable is Tkachuck. I’d consider that but I’m sure not many devils fans would . Not sure how the flames would react either. If Johnny walks and Tkachuck is a D bag on his RFA dealimg , maybe it’s somewhat possible.
Im not sure what to think
ChicksDigTheTrap
No quick fixes, no cutting corners and no cheating
The other issue with Tkachuk is that there is no way the Flames will lose him and Johnny Hockey this off season. It is starting to sound like Johnny Hockey is going to test UFA so no chance they would trade Tkachuk. I do not think Sutter would be in favor of a Tkachuk for Bratt swap.
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again, we have no idea. Stop saying this definitively. They might, they might not.
They can't SIGN, sure, but they can certainly potentially discuss an extension as part of the trade
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ChicksDigTheTrap
No quick fixes, no cutting corners and no cheating
Especially Tkachuk - I mean if there is one thing we know the Tkachuks like to get their contract negotiations over with as quickly as possible
Looking at Calgary's cap situation, I think they can technically afford to sign RFAs Tkachuk and Mangiapane and still have room to sign Gaudreau, although it would be pretty tight for them after doing so.
I think the question I would ask is, does Gaudreau want to stay in Calgary? If he signed a team-friendly deal, I think they could conceivably win their division next year, and the following year things get even better as they free up $12 million with expiring contracts to Monahan and Lucic. This is a team with a strong future if they can keep the core together.
Conversely, Gaudreau might want to play in America, who knows? Or maybe he's just a guy -- and who could really blame him -- who just wants to get the best contract he can regardless of where it is.
Ultimately, we don't know what Johnny is thinking. But if I was forced to bet, I'd guess he will return to Calgary. It's a good team with a good coach and a good situation for the next few seasons. But I suppose time will tell.
I wonder what it'd take to get Hellebuyck here. He's a good goalie but he doesn't have much term left which should theoretically lower his value a bit, plus he's on the older side.
Eggtimer
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It will be very hard to sign those guys for Calgary unless they move Lucic and or Monahan . Klyington needs a raise and Zadorov and Gudbranson need contracts as well . I guess they can use Mackie and Valimacki instead on D .
hold on just a sec while i google what the kelly cup is
Eggtimer
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No clue what it would take . He has two years left . Depends on what the Jets decide to do. Trotz turned down the coaching job, Dubois said he is going to UFA amd won’t sign there, Scheifele has beem dogging it there and appears to want out and Jets said he might be traded , same with Wheeler. If that all goes to shit , I can see Hellebuyck wantig out and he has said he is not pumped about playing in Winnipeg ( COVID restrictions were brutal on him and his family )
Devilsgrl35
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No real news other than at least we're not losing Bryce to a coaching job it would seem, although I wouldn't mind him on our bench
Why would he reveal his source is Bryce? You don't reveal your sources. Bryce would make a heck of a coach though.
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