Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 training camp edition

[Hisch13r]

I feel like I have been very vocal about my criticisms of Alex Holtz. I want to see him succeed. He had a great preseason last year, was given like one game worth of opportunity to begin to feel out the NHL game, and immediately shuffled up and down the lineup and into and out of the press box because he didn't show 'it' in his first games of the year. That is not the type of player you can do that to. If Lindy really wants to start him with Nico and Timo, he has to give Alex time to settle in, learn how to play with those two, and understand that there is probably going to be a learning curve and it won't be perfect right off the bat. You shuffle him up and down the lineup, I am pretty confident that we will see the exact same result with Holtz as last year. No confidence, no chemistry with his linemates, and probably right back to the press box. Lindy needs to be content with letting Alex make his mistakes and grow from them.

I've basically said the same things. It's hard to really have a grasp on what he is because of how he's been used. He was always going to fail with that usage. Maybe he's just not that good and is going to fail regardless but at least give your high pick who has been a great AHLer the chance to succeed in the NHL. Give him some linemates he can work with and give him consistent reps with them to work through the struggles that will present themselves.

 

[HBK27]

I feel like I have been very vocal about my criticisms of Alex Holtz. I want to see him succeed. He had a great preseason last year, was given like one game worth of opportunity to begin to feel out the NHL game, and immediately shuffled up and down the lineup and into and out of the press box because he didn't show 'it' in his first games of the year. That is not the type of player you can do that to. If Lindy really wants to start him with Nico and Timo, he has to give Alex time to settle in, learn how to play with those two, and understand that there is probably going to be a learning curve and it won't be perfect right off the bat. You shuffle him up and down the lineup, I am pretty confident that we will see the exact same result with Holtz as last year. No confidence, no chemistry with his linemates, and probably right back to the press box. Lindy needs to be content with letting Alex make his mistakes and grow from them.

He really should get much more opportunity this season.

For starters, he's a year older and has seemingly put in the work this offseason to make quicker decisions. Ruff also has more security this season - tough to work a rookie into a top 6 role when your job is also on the line.

Now, the playoffs seem like a given this season and I think Ruff and Fitz know that working a player with the skill set of Holtz into the lineup and getting him acclimated to the NHL this year could have a big benefit by the time Spring rolls around (mmmm....spring rolls) - I would expect them to be more patient with him this season and give him more opportunity with top players. Hopefully it pays off.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Ruff also has more security this season

I don't think that's necessarily true. If it is, Fitz isn't doing his job

If, for some reason, the devils are doing terrible, you can bet Ruff will bench Holtz and focus on winning. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

 

[Devs3cups]

So this news should be welcomed well around these parts…

 

[JimEIV]

I wouldn't let any of my boys do that show .

 

[crashline]

That's going to be the most wholesome episode of Chiclets ever.

 

[glenwo2]

I wouldn't let any of my boys do that show .

yeah. I would be afraid they'd end up losing a ton of their brain-cells.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Better Call Sal]

Starting to listen now.

 

[britdevil]

Starting to listen now.

Do I have to?

 

[Billdo]

Do I have to?

No, don't.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Do I have to?

I'll wait for the cliff notes

 

[Andre Palot]

save them for the stanley cup parade

In the Prudential Center parking lot? Those price gougers would have a field day.

 

[HBK27]

 

[BahlDeep]

I do get why SC gets some heat, but some of you act like they are a detriment to the game.

 

[Debrincat93]

How has Daws and Kallgren look in camp?

 

[I Hate Tie DOMI]

How has Daws and Kallgren look in camp?

Daws is out with a hip injury, likely December. Maybe later before he is back.

 

[Better Call Sal]

How has Daws and Kallgren look in camp?

Daws is injured, had hip labrum surgery in the offseason. Won't be back for some time, as mentioned above.

Kallgren looked fine last night in his game, I'm sure he'll get plenty of AHL starts given Daws' status.

 

[OmNomNom]

halfway thru chiclets podcast, it's a good listen

nico is such a good kid (like 0 cursing), and the podcast is asking Qs at that level (pretty respectful/polite). think it's worth a watch

 

[Blackjack]

halfway thru chiclets podcast, it's a good listen

nico is such a good kid (like 0 cursing), and the podcast is asking Qs at that level (pretty respectful/polite). think it's worth a watch

The SC guys can be rowdy/annoying at times, and the barstool brand is straight trash because of the owner, but I find the criticism of the SC podcast to be a little over the top. They should get a lot of goodwill for helping rid the league of Babcock.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Nico really is just a wholesome dude. Love what he's all about.

 

[TBF1972]

I do get why SC gets some heat, but some of you act like they are a detriment to the game.

i wouldn't mind a stanley cup

 

[MasterofGrond]

SC when they're good are really good. When they're bad they're really bad.

To each their own, of course, but give me that every day over a boring middle of the road podcast. I can just stop listening when they suck lmao

 

[NjDevsRR]

Nico really is just a wholesome dude. Love what he's all about.

Need that breakfast gif

 

[glenwo2]

I do get why SC gets some heat, but some of you act like they are a detriment to the game.

Nah.

Only a detriment to my brain-cells.


I'll wait for someone to post the cliff notes.