Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

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How @Bleedred feels about Tedenby and Blackwood and Ken Klee I feel about Peter Harrold.

A Paterson & Brisco level stooge for PDB.
He was a fine fill-in earlier on, but he was one of several players that got a lot of mileage out of the 2012 playoff run. Too much mileage out of that run, after playing almost the entire 11-12 regular season in the AHL. Obviously two others were Bernier and Gionta. And I was a bigger Stephen Gionta fan than most.

I kind of wonder if he's re-signed and still on the NHL roster in 15-16 if Lou is still the GM. That wound up being the final pro hockey season of his career, which he spent the entirety of it with the AHL Blues.

If I recall correctly though, I do think Peter Harrold was finally waived at one point during the 14-15 season, it may have even been right after camp and he may not have been on the opening night roster that year.

But he found his way back up at some point early that year, and remained there for the rest of the season.
 
He was a bull too, he had a unique mix of skill and toughness.

He should have won a cup here, but it is what it is.

All the offensive records he could have ended up breaking here will instead be broken by Jack

Jack has Kovy's skill but Nico has at least some of the toughness that Kovy had.
 
He was a fine fill-in earlier on, but he was one of several players that got a lot of mileage out of the 2012 playoff run. Too much mileage out of that run, after playing almost the entire 11-12 regular season in the AHL. Obviously two others were Bernier and Gionta. And I was a bigger Stephen Gionta fan than most.

I kind of wonder if he's re-signed and still on the NHL roster in 15-16 if Lou is still the GM. That wound up being the final pro hockey season of his career, which he spent the entirety of it with the AHL Blues.

If I recall correctly though, I do think Peter Harrold was finally waived at one point during the 14-15 season, it may have even been right after camp and he may not have been on the opening night roster that year.

But he found his way back up at some point early that year, and remained there for the rest of the season.

After the 2012 season CBGB was kinda overplayed out of necessity since we didn't have much to work with.

With Harrold he was getting an insane amount of minutes when Larsson was either being sat or sheltered. It would be like treating Colin Miller like a core piece instead of a transitional player.

Oh. Oh no.
 
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Jack has Kovy's skill but Nico has at least some of the toughness that Kovy had.

If you can merge Jack Nico and Timo all together....You basically get Kovalchuk... :sarcasm:. Big guy with wrist shot, explosive, yet smooth skating edges, tenacity, good to elite stickhandling hands. ++Confidence galore (just like jack). 1st round pick.

Okay Nico is better than Kovy was defensively ever. Jacks passing is better. But kovy had hands and speed that mirrors jack play at high speed. At least in his peak.

Hoping tiffoli and Timo can bury the puck with similar confidence next season.
 
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He was a bull too, he had a unique mix of skill and toughness.

He should have won a cup here, but it is what it is.

All the offensive records he could have ended up breaking here will instead be broken by Jack
I don't think there's any chance he would have broken the franchise points record, even if he stuck around. The team points record is 1025. Kovalchuk had 201 points as a Devil. He would have gotten over 1025 career points, maybe by a significant amount. Just not 1025 points with the Devils.

He would have needed to average 80 points a year and some over the next hypothetical 10 seasons. Two of which wound up being shortened due to covid. He actually would have had to flirt with the NHL games played record to do that. He already played over 800 NHL games before he was 30 years old and when he last played here.

He was just too old when he got here (almost 27) to really have any realistic shot at breaking the all time Devils points record.

Let's just say he stuck around and the retirement/KHL thing never happened. He didn't play professional hockey beyond the 2020-2021 season. I highly doubt he would have played past the 2020-2021 season had he stayed the entire time. Maybe he would have even been done by the end of the 2019-2020 season, as the KHL plays significantly fewer games (I think?) per year than the NHL does. That possibly bought him an entire extra year of his career.
 
I actually thought he would turn into a good player.

Nope
Same. We always fall for it with someone. I bought a Tedenby autographed card. I thought Gelinas would be out Shea Weber. Ya win some ya lose some. I was right about Schmid (so far) so I'll rest my hat on that.
 
Same. We always fall for it with someone. I bought a Tedenby autographed card. I thought Gelinas would be out Shea Weber. Ya win some ya lose some. I was right about Schmid (so far) so I'll rest my hat on that.
I liked Gelinas too.......

I think I also liked the idea of a guy that scored that many points on our defense, back when we had no one really scoring points on our defense, save for Zidlicky.

Between the fact that he was young (on an old defense/team. Larsson was young but didn't score) and actually scored points, I was really hyped about him.

When I went to broadcasting school at the Connecticut School of Broadcasting we all had to do mock interviews for my sports radio class.

I chose Nick Palmieri lmfaoooo.
What. The?

I wouldn't mind seeing/hearing that one haha.
 
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I liked Gelinas too.......

I think I also liked the idea of a guy that scored that many points on our defense, back when we had no one really scoring points on our defense, save for Zidlicky.

Between the fact that he was young (on an old defense/team. Larsson was young but didn't score) and actually scored points, I was really hyped about him.


What. The?

I wouldn't mind seeing/hearing that one haha.

Good luck. The Hasbrouck Heights branch closed during covid.

I'm sure if I did digging in my room I could find the questions I wrote out though. None of us saved any of the material.

My instructor was actually the sports TV director for FOX 5. Roger Ahl. Nice guy but always ragged on me for being a Devils fan and was one of those stereotypical 'the Devils were only great because of the trap' Rags fans
 
He was a bull too, he had a unique mix of skill and toughness.

He should have won a cup here, but it is what it is.

All the offensive records he could have ended up breaking here will instead be broken by Jack

And Jack might actually play some semblance of passable defense while doing it too!

Remember when we argued that Kovalchuk was getting better defensively because they started using him on the PK? Ya, that was a cope and a half. :laugh:
 

He was a bull too, he had a unique mix of skill and toughness.

He should have won a cup here, but it is what it is.

All the offensive records he could have ended up breaking here will instead be broken by Jack

I maintain that if we win one out of the two OT games vs the Kings during the cup final (so games one or two) we would have won the cup.
 
And Jack might actually play some semblance of passable defense while doing it too!

Remember when we argued that Kovalchuk was getting better defensively because they started using him on the PK? Ya, that was a cope and a half. :laugh:
I would LOVE to see Jack on the PK. Not for his defense.
 
It was 3 goals in 40 games played the year before. Not 3 goals in 2 seasons.

These are more than slight exaggerations.

Clowe played 40 games the season before in what was only a 48 game season shortened by the 2012 lockout.

Clowe played 76 games the season before that and scored 17 goals that season.
lol. someone actually defending the Clowe contract. Yikes.
 
Kovy TKO-ing Brayden Schenn on one punch following Zac Rinaldo's blatant attempt to injure Parise is still one of my favorite Devils memories. Pure gold.
I remember writing a whole post on here a few years after that happened about how that moment was the turning point for Kovy, where he seemingly bought into the system and was pure gold from then on. He was obviously always good, but that was around the time he seemed to really turn it on and play with the team more than for the team.
 
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