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Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

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NJDevs26 said:
He might match that number over there yet.

That doesn't even count guys like Johnny Mac, who never came back as a player but came back post-playing. Steve Sullivan was almost as long in between stints as Shanny too, we got him before and after he was a good player lol. Mogilny came back, Malakhov, freaking Richer came back my goodness...
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we need an official list here....its the goddamn offseason after all
 
ZachaFlockaFlame said:
God, he was such a f***ing tank. I know it's a hot topic with Jack now but Kovy as a player overall might be the most gifted player we've seen. Him, Jack, Mogliny in some order. Think Jack eventually jumps him in the future.
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That laser of a pass from our blue line in game 3 overtime against the flyers was amazing
Man really wish he got to win the cup in 12. Deserved it more then parise
 
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Canucks fan coming in with as much peace as a opposing fan can come in with…

Man, I’m guessing you guys just can’t wait until the season starts.

What a time to be a New Jersey Devils fan.

I will be watching as many games as I can this year.



We’ll see you out on the ice….
 
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Cheddabombs said:
Bring back Farnham
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I had to look up to see if he was still playing anymore. He hasn’t played since 19-20 in the EIHL. He’s now 34.

A lot of these guys aren’t even that old and haven’t been playing for years.

32 year old Urbom apparently hasn’t played since 20-21 and it was only 4 games that year in Austria.

Burlon is 33 and hasn’t played since 19-20 in both Sweden and Austria. They don’t have him listed anywhere for 18-19. Perhaps an injury that kept him out for an entire year?

Bergfors last played in Sweden in 21-22. He’s now 36.

33 year old Tedenby did play this past year in Sweden, but only scored 3 goals in 35 games. He was averaging at least double digits every year before that.
 
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Bleedred said:
I had to look up to see if he was still playing anymore. He hasn’t played since 19-20 in the EIHL. He’s now 34.

A lot of these guys aren’t even that old and haven’t been playing for years.

32 year old Urbom apparently hasn’t played since 20-21 and it was only 4 games that year in Austria.

Burlon is 33 and hasn’t played since 19-20 in both Sweden and Austria. They don’t have him listed anywhere for 18-19. Perhaps an injury that kept him out for an entire year?

Bergfors last played in Sweden in 21-22. He’s now 36.

33 year old Tedenby did play this past year in Sweden, but only scored 3 goals in 35 games. He was averaging at least double digits every year before that.
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Yeah, but where are Jiri Bicek and David Hale?
 
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DerekDevils30 said:
Ah fond memories of the 2013-15 years. I remember being high on Loktionov. Turns out I was just high.
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You certainly were. :D
 
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Hockey Sports Fan said:
it’s funny to go back and watch that one Urbom goal because it looks so plain relative to the skill we see from average defensemen these days.

But at the time, this had me convinced Urbom was gonna be a fixture for a long long time on the Devils blue line. And it’s interesting because his career numbers across all the leagues he played in made it clear there was very little offense to his game. But when you watch him in this clip, and the 4-5 times i saw him in the AHL, you can see he wanted the puck in his stick and was always looking to make plays.
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This is what being a fan of a team that has 18 total goals from defensemen does to you. It breaks a person.

Yes, we had 18 goals and 88 points from our entire defense in 2010-11.

That’s 4 less goals and 14 more points then Hamilton alone had last season.
1 player (82 GP) vs 13 players (497 GP)

In 2010-11 Andy Greene led the defense with 23 points while Tallinder has the most goals (5).

In 2011-12 season, the defense somehow managed to score even fewer goals (16 goals) but more points (107 points).

In 2011-12 Adam Larsson led the defense with EIGHTEEN f***ING POINTS while Fayne has the most goals (FOUR f***ING GOALS).

It says a lot that a very old Zidlicky was the only defenseman with a significant offense pulse after Lou signed him in 2012 off-season.

Not so much in the 48 game 2012-13 season, when the defense had a total of 12 goals and 57 points.

But in 2013-14 a 36 year old Zilicky got his groove on, Greene had a career year, and Eric Gelinas scoring 7 Gelly Bombs was some sort of revelation for the fanbase (guilty as charged).

Our super-charged juggernaut defense scored 35 goals and had 144 points.
Defensemen leaders: Zidlicky (12 G) & Zidlicky (42 pts)

And it got less super charged in 2014-15 with 26 goals and 132 points.
Defensemen leaders: Gelinas (6 G) & Larson (24 pts)

And it got even worse in 2015-16 with 20 goals and 103 points.
Defensemen leaders: Schlemko (6 G) & Severson (20 pts)

With slightly more productive leaders the defense still isn’t productive in 2016-17 with 30 goals and 109 points.
Defensemen leaders: Moore (12 G) & Severson (31 pts)

Me, to our offense from the blue line for almost a decade:
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Guttersniped said:
This is what being a fan of a team that has 18 total goals from defensemen does to you. It breaks a person.

Yes, we had 18 goals and 88 points from our entire defense in 2010-11.

That’s 4 less goals and 14 more points then Hamilton alone had last season.
1 player (82 GP) vs 13 players (497 GP)

In 2010-11 Andy Greene led the defense with 23 points while Tallinder has the most goals (5).

In 2011-12 season, the defense somehow managed to score even fewer goals (16 goals) but more points (107 points).

In 2011-12 Adam Larsson led the defense with EIGHTEEN f***ING POINTS while Fayne has the most goals (FOUR f***ING GOALS).

It says a lot that a very old Zidlicky was the only defenseman with a significant offense pulse after Lou signed him in 2012 off-season.

Not so much in the 48 game 2012-13 season, when the defense had a total of 12 goals and 57 points.

But in 2013-14 a 36 year old Zilicky got his groove on, Greene had a career year, and Eric Gelinas scoring 7 Gelly Bombs was some sort of revelation for the fanbase (guilty as charged).

Our super-charged juggernaut defense scored 35 goals and had 144 points.
Defensemen leaders: Zidlicky (12 G) & Zidlicky (42 pts)

And it got less super charged in 2014-15 with 26 goals and 132 points.
Defensemen leaders: Gelinas (6 G) & Larson (24 pts)

And it got even worse in 2015-16 with 20 goals and 103 points.
Defensemen leaders: Schlemko (6 G) & Severson (20 pts)

With slightly more productive leaders the defense still isn’t productive in 2016-17 with 30 goals and 109 points.
Defensemen leaders: Moore (12 G) & Severson (31 pts)

Me, to our offense from a blue line for almost a decade:
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Then the randoms like John Moore who I actually really liked and Schlemko who ppl wanted resigned. This team had such a strange course from like 2013-2018.
 
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