Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season part III

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Mercer absolutely should not be moved for Markstrom.

Mercer absolutely COULD potentially be moved for a Saros (extended) or the ilk

there is a difference. No one is saying just to trade Mercer willy-nilly.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Emperoreddy]

A Markstrom trade would involve Holtz. Zero chance Mercer is involved.

 

[JrFischer54]

Fitz probably sees some life in the roster finally and will pull the trigger on maelstrom to try and catapult them for the playoffs. Probably would rather saros but they don’t sound open to lowering the price


Wonder if a win tonight makes him pull the trigger or wait to win Saturday? Tough spot to bring maelstrom into an outdoor game. So maybe they go 2-0 and Fitz makes the move?

 

[NJDevs26]

Daws, Nemec and I guess Holtz the only ones to show up so far

 

[Emperoreddy]

Fitz probably sees some life in the roster finally and will pull the trigger on maelstrom to try and catapult them for the playoffs. Probably would rather saros but they don’t sound open to lowering the price


Wonder if a win tonight makes him pull the trigger or wait to win Saturday? Tough spot to bring maelstrom into an outdoor game. So maybe they go 2-0 and Fitz makes the move?

He has experience in them at least? He has to have started a heritage classic at least once.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Lebrun says retention was what killed it the first time. We want them to retain, they want another asset to do that.

Guess we see if someone blinks or they find a compromise.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

its easy enough to find another team to retain some if you just pay them a 4th round pick or some shit

 

[jkrdevil]

Luke can’t let Kempe beat him.

 

[theking72]

For anyone that went to the last outdoor devils game, is the idea of wearing ski pants to the game a good idea or too much

 

[Bone Density]

 

[Emperoreddy]

For anyone that went to the last outdoor devils game, is the idea of wearing ski pants to the game a good idea or too much

I know multiple people wearing ski gear. I'm going thermals and I might double up sweats over it.

Yankee stadium game was stupid cold, and it's going to be really cold Saturday too.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Honestly this isn't shocking at this point. It's pretty clear we were really far down the road with getting Markstrom here and clearly are still trying.

They don't ask Markstrom to waive if it wasn't close. Doesn't mean it gets done as we clearly don't want him without some salary retention.

 

[Devils731]

For anyone that went to the last outdoor devils game, is the idea of wearing ski pants to the game a good idea or too much

The warmer gear you can wear the better, especially if you don’t have access to any indoor spaces to warm up.

Otherwise you’re sitting mostly still in 32 degree weather slowly losing heat for hours. I don’t think there can be too much.

My plan is thermals and pants. Heavy socks. Thermals, shirt, heavier shirt, jersey, and heavy jacket.

I’m also bringing 40 disposable handwarmers.

 

[longislanddevil]

One game doesn’t change long term outlook but I’d really like Daws to get some extended run. He more than passes the eye test for me. A part of me would rather just trade for Kahkonen, who has been solid, yet not spectacular, with a .905 save percentage. I’m just so reticent to give up Mercer or Holtz as part of a package for a 34 year old goalie. It’s not good asset management to acquire a player who, if we are fortunate, gives us two seasons of quality goaltending. If we are talking about a 29 year old Saros (if we can extend him), that’s a different story.

If Hanifin is included as part of a Markstrom deal (if extended), it does change my thought process somewhat.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Flames fans on the main board seem pretty confident in whatever rumors they are reading that a Markstrom deal is imminent

edit: thaman8765678 saying everything short of

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

I'm in two minds in trading Holtz for Markstrom.

If you are certain that Ruff is the right coach for the team, then absolutely trade Holtz for Markstrom because we know that Ruff-Holtz relationship does not work. Ruff wont play Holtz so lets get an asset to improve the team before Holtz value tanks while he remains buried on the 4th line.

If Ruff is not the right coach, then I rather Fitz make a coaching change rather than acquire a goalie.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

I'm in two minds in trading Holtz for Markstrom.

If you are certain that Ruff is the right coach for the team, then absolutely trade Holtz for Markstrom because we know that Ruff-Holtz relationship does not work. Ruff wont play Holtz so lets get an asset to improve the team before Holtz value tanks while he remains buried on the 4th line.

If Ruff is not the right coach, then I rather Fitz make a coaching change rather than acquire a goalie.

They might see Clarke as being able to do what Holtz does too. I.e. offensive winger talent with huge warts in his all-around game that need to be worked on. Oh and Gritsyuk in the pipeline too.

 

[R8Devs]

I am pretty sure the Calgary people on hf that are saying its done is based on this forum (thanks google): 2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread - Page 1088 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

The guy who apparently is the insider is 'Sec214'

Kind of weird to even have the guy in a backup role if the deal is done so who knows. Some random dude did break the Lindholm trade on the flames reddit tho before the major insiders lol

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I am pretty sure the Calgary people on hf that are saying its done is based on this forum (thanks google): 2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread - Page 1088 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

The guy who apparently is the insider is 'Sec214'

Kind of weird to even have the guy in a backup role if the deal is done so who knows. Some random dude did break the Lindholm trade on the flames reddit tho before the major insiders lol

They think they’re getting Mercer, Casey, and a 1st for 34 year old Markstom in that forum. The worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

It's gonna be Casey + picks, Holtz/Mercer wouldn't have played tonight if they were in the deal. Mercer wouldn't be in the deal anyway unless Fitz lost his f***ing his marbles

 

[Andre Palot]

They think they’re getting Mercer, Casey, and a 1st for 34 year old Markstom in that forum. The worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

If that's the deal, Fitz is going to be tarred and feathered on the ice.

 

[DerekDevils30]

It's gonna be Casey + picks, Holtz/Mercer wouldn't have played tonight if they were in the deal. Mercer wouldn't be in the deal anyway unless Fitz lost his f***ing his marbles

That’s a good point. If it was legitimately close and now finalized they’d have been held out.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I’d rather have Seamus and a 1st than Markstrom. No deal

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Dreading this deal. Fitz usually wins these, but everyone knows he’s desperate. The worst part is I don’t even know how much Markstrom moves the needle at this point. The time for a goalie trade was weeks ago.