Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season begins!

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HersheyBob27

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Honestly the way to take care of these issues is NOT to go after Clifton, but the valuable players that team wouldn't want to lose. Just spend a whole game with cheap shots to Tage Thompson, That will send a message to teams, cheap shot our star players, we are going to take your star players out.
This is a great idea . I love it. We can send bratt to bite Tage’s ankles ;)
 

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There is absolutely 0 reason Mercer should be getting the minutes he is right now. You don't try to get players going by moving them up in the lineup. Ruff sat Marino for playing far less badly than Mercer and Meier for playing roughly as bad. Why are we holding Mercer to a completely different standard than these players right now? He needs to see the press box for a game to get it through to him to get his head out of his ass.
 

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There is absolutely 0 reason Mercer should be getting the minutes he is right now. You don't try to get players going by moving them up in the lineup. Ruff sat Marino for playing far less badly than Mercer and Meier for playing roughly as bad. Why are we holding Mercer to a completely different standard than these players right now? He needs to see the press box for a game to get it through to him to get his head out of his ass.


I think you can do it. You aren't going to do it by continuing to play him with 3rd and 4th line players while giving him those minutes. If you're going to double down on playing him more to get him going then you have to put him with guys who will actually help him get going.
 

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Dawson will figure it out eventually, thought he played a better game Sunday, but there’s no denying he’s struggled big time to start the year.

It’s most likely getting to him mentally. I’m not opposed to sitting him for a game, but right now with Nico out options are limited. Also, that might do even more damage to his confidence. I wouldn’t ABSOLUTELY give him more ice time, but let him play, and if that’s with our top guys and he gets more TOI then so be it. Once he pots one and gets on the scoresheet, I’m sure the confidence will come back.
 

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Fun fact, on a per minute basis Holtz is matching Toffoli in shot contributions. PROMOTE HIM
It is a little odd for that list to use contributions per games played when per minute is a more meaningful number.

Both numbers provide some value but if I wanted to show a player wasn’t getting it done then per minute is more fair to use. Obviously doesn’t help Mercer though.
 

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It is a little odd for that list to use contributions per games played when per minute is a more meaningful number.

Both numbers provide some value but if I wanted to show a player wasn’t getting it done then per minute is more fair to use. Obviously doesn’t help Mercer though.

Yeah they should both be shown
 

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Am I the only one who thinks Mercer struggling this season in terms of production is a good thing?

It can allow you to lock him in for 7/8 years at a ~$5.5-6.25 million cap hit instead of around $7 million cap hit.
 

Hisch13r

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Am I the only one who thinks Mercer struggling this season in terms of production is a good thing?

It can allow you to lock him in for 7/8 years at a ~$5.5-6.25 million cap hit instead of around $7 million cap hit.

I don’t think he should’ve been coming in around 7 unless he exceeded expectations. Also if he sucks this year he might push for a shorter deal rather than a longer one which yeah great in the short term but likely killer in the long term
 

Poppy Whoa Sonnet

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Am I the only one who thinks Mercer struggling this season in terms of production is a good thing?

It can allow you to lock him in for 7/8 years at a ~$5.5-6.25 million cap hit instead of around $7 million cap hit.
It's concerning that he might not be the impact player we're all hoping for. I don't think this is a "Jack Hughes hurting his shoulder was actually good" scenario so much, as Hughes was for sure who the team was going to build around. Mercer's underlying metrics have always been worse than his production (IIRC correct me if I'm wrong) so it's more of a question as to what to do with him.
 
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Hisch13r

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It's concerning that he might not be the impact player we're all hoping for. I don't think this is a "Jack Hughes hurting his shoulder was actually good" scenario so much, as Hughes was for sure who the team was going to build around. Mercer's underlying metrics have always been worse than his production (IIRC correct me if I'm wrong) so it's more of a question as to what to do with him.

Obviously we're only looking at his 20, 21, and 8 atrocious games of his 22 year old season but he certainly looks more like a complimentary passenger type guy than a real driver. Luckily for him and us we don't need him to be a high end driver. He should at least be a 2nd line winger who can PK
 
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