Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season begins!
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Louskoolaid89
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Nico has had some killer games in Montreal. Be great to have him back in but, just relieved it's nothing serious.
AfroThunder396
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I've been EDGEing all morning, but progress is slow because of how many people that are also EDGEing themselves along with me.
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Looks like whoever told Friedge the Hischier injury wasn’t serious and that he’d be back for practice Monday was right.
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Lol “anti-Fletcher base”. I guess Flyers ownership is in that base too.
As always, it’s you in is a pitched battle against other fans, whose takes all unite them into one group, that you have to lecture.
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- Jul 21, 2010
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Good news! Nico has returned… here’s your live look at practice
I think he’s ready for Tuesdays game!
SteveCangialosi123
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Mercer-Haula-Holtz is an interesting combo. Need Dawson to get going.
That was the listed combo for the Florida game too but then they only played 2:30 together
AfroThunder396
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I was going to say zone starts could play into this but Smith-Luke have gotten the heaviest DZS while Bahl-Marino have gotten the fewest. Smith-Luke are in the 11s per 60 for DZS while Bahl-Marino are in the 3s. When it comes to actual shots and chances against though the Bahl-Marino pair has been the best
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AfroThunder396
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Right, and this goes back to the old discussions people had in the early stats days. "Look at all the shot blocks Player X has, he's so good defensively!" Well, does he have a ton of shots blocks because he's good defensively, or is he being forced to block a lot of shots because he's constantly hemmed into his own zone due to lack of transition/breakout skills?
With Bahl-Marino, they are being deployed in more offensive situations yet consistently find themselves spending more time in their own zone. This suggests to me that they're really struggling to get the puck to the forwards effectively, which leads to chances against. And while it's good that they're suppressing shots and chances against, I think it's largely their own fault that they're put in that position to begin with. Once they get into a defensive situation, they can't get themselves out because of how poor their retrieval/outlet skills are.
At least that's my read on the situation. Obviously these are very complex and dynamic systems we're trying to evaluate.
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Marino's generally been good with retrievals and exits so I'm not really worried about him too much and Bahl isn't really all that different from Graves (both awful) with it. They should even out over time.
Highest 5v5 SV% vs lowest 5v5 SH%. lol Should be fun...
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Nico’s ixG, iSCF and iHDCF are all at the top of the team. His xGF% and xSCF% are also good.
The points will come for him.
The points will come for him.
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One of the best GDT memes. I wonder if the players would get as much of a kick out of these as we do. I can just imagine Nicos grimace now.
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It’s a 4 game sample and it’s Montreal who will most likely be without Guhle. Maybe their goalie has a big game though, who knows. Point is, we’re not facing Vasilevsky/Sorokin/Shesterkin here.
AfroThunder396
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Hahahah deleted the other post, realized I was in the wrong thread!!
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Proof of life footage (and Snack Shop).
JimEIV
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Kind of freaky how identical Schmid are Vanecek's numbers are.
Exact same amount of games, shots, saves and goals against.
Exact same amount of games, shots, saves and goals against.
Whaddagoal
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Guadana
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I read American, European and Russian various information sources and I perfectly see the difference in the breadth of opinions. People have certain information from sources to build their representation. And this is expected - the countries have been enemies for a long time, and they will remain so. Some countries of the Middle East do not represent a model of virtue, humanity and invest money in certain organizations(which then countries have to fight), which does not prevent them from investing money in them. No one will ask either your opinion or mine if the state needs to make friends somewhere and quarrel somewhere. Whether we are for or against.
With regard to the personal representation - again, both informational and cultural sources are available to me. Im watching movies, tv series, playing games. Dehumanization is present, the building of a negative\dehumanisative image is present, it has not gone anywhere. The shapes have changed a bit. For someone who is brought up in certain values and/or communicates personally, this no longer works. It affects someone - I can quite feel it even through personal communication.
Building a bad image around Michkov began a year before the draft. I have read these sources, I am familiar with these descriptions, "facts", people's words, and even direct interviews around specific takeaways refuting these takeaways have not received such wide information dissemination. Not even close. Similarly with the story around Provorov. I have read reviews and descriptions about him directly, about all people in general. When there were already reports about teams that decided to follow the same path - again, there was no such a wide wave of condemnation from information sources. Even the immediate refusal of the league itself was not forced at all. You should understand Im not trying to defend Provorov, even if I understand context better and what he doesnt like.
With regard to Michkov himself and his image of the villain, this is what makes the "story". There will be no history in western social folklore, where Michkov will eventually be on the bright side, and the American / Canadian on the evil side. We will also have it in social folklore differently - Michkov "will be pushed out", not given a prize where he deserved more, and every sneeze of the North American "golden boy"( as one American-centric guy about Michkov put it on one of the branches) will be praised. That is already working. Even without Michkov in NHL.
But in the end, players will treat each other with interest and respect, both will be worthy and interesting hockey players, both will wait for the meeting with warmth, interest and excitement - they are much more important to each other than what the media tells and fans invent there. Michkov already personally spoke warmly and with interest about Bedard in an interview. But people are simpler, people want a plot, drama, and the presence of such bright figures allows this drama to be built, to be more significant and vivid, because for people it is a kind of closer humanized broadcast of the confrontation between countries on the human field. You can argue endlessly in the comments, be nervous, worry about your golden boy(no matter who you are and who is your golden boy), while in the end no one will get hurt - it's fun and safe. And the brighter such a confrontation is, the better hockey is. Because what? There is no such bright confrontation in football and basketball(or baseball), coupled with other spheres of our life. That's why I'm happy for hockey, I easily accept the "villain image", because it's an artistic fiction around a sporting event where ordinary but very talented people drive the puck back and forth. There is no good character without an interesting villainous character. And very often the villain character is a villain only in the eyes of the protagonist, sometimes villain causing much more sympathy. For our part, we will also build our own narrative, don't worry.
And im really happy personally, because I like Michkov and Jack, I like that Devils will be in the center of this story. It will create more attention to my team, it will make tastier our games. And Bedard will be somewhere near too, because we will track the point race of this players. And after 15 years people will argue about who was better player of the generation. Its fun and its about my team.
For now the narrative for the Devils is "The devils must gain experience, play together, and then they will begin to win and achieve the highest result. Maybe find a goalie". Its still good, but its not that fun its not fundamential for the whole league, for the whole sport. Good rivalry make it much better. Rangers Devils is more local rivalry for now, its not about the whole league and even beyond. The confrontation between Jack and Matthew can become just such a rivalry.
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He’s just gliding and not moving his upper body at all…clearly still nursing something
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