Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2022-23 season thread part I

[My3Sons]

I'm sure it's just cramps we're fine

yeah, no one is surprised that this happened. Let's see what non-answer Ruff gives.

 

[RangerDoggo]

Kill me

 

[SKNJD9]

Doubt Nico would get PP1 time in practice if he was still a ways off

 

[I Hate Tie DOMI]

I tell him almost every day how much fun we have here... and how level headed everyone is and the conversations are always friendly and amicable... so he decided to come destroy that.

Where is the "here" you speak of? It sounds wonderful.

 

[TrufleShufle]

yeah, no one is surprised that this happened. Let's see what non-answer Ruff gives.

You guys freak out over nothing. He came out to see how it was going, I'm sure he is 95% of the way there and they will probably reevaluate him by June to see if he's ready.

 

[njdevil26]

Next thing we'll hear is that Nico was in a hot air balloon accident in Idaho.

 

[guitarguyvic]

How is Nico supposed to avoid the situations/plays that have gotten him injured though? Dive out of the way every time a shot comes near him? Never block a shot or play in the "dirty" areas where injuries are more likely to occur? Play wrapped up from head to toe in bubble wrap?

I’m just going to answer the first question since the rest are all obviously facetious rhetorical.

You can avoid injury through skill. Let’s take an extreme example. If I took to the ice against NHL players…with my supremely inferior athleticism, skating ability, reflexes, agility, hand-eye coordination, strength, hockey iq, awareness, etc…how much more likely do you think I am to get injured than the average NHL player? I’d say my likelihood is actually exponentially greater.

Some people are just more cognizant of how to avoid getting hurt. Others have an instinct. Some people are simply built more durably and can withstand more physical punishment without getting as injured as others.

Nico got hit in the face with a puck. This gets dismissed as a freak accident, which I understand. But the reality is that different player may have reacted quicker, or moved a different direction that would result in the puck not hitting exactly where it hit Nico. And if he didn’t have several other injuries over the last year, it would be largely forgotten about. But context and trends matter.

I am genuinely mystified that this has to be parsed out for people who are hardcore sports fans.

 

[glenwo2]

You can't be getting sniped on by Wood

As he should be.

getting sniped by Miles friggin' Wood is embarassing.

 

[DevRickus]

You guys freak out over nothing. He came out to see how it was going, I'm sure he is 95% of the way there and they will probably reevaluate him by June to see if he's ready.

He also just had cramps and here we are

 

[Ripshot 43]

Glad to see you're back (at least a bit). Hope you're recovering well.

As for sneezing, I blew my back out more than once from a sneeze

No TV and no Internet but everyone made it out ok and the house is still standing. Ft Meyers beach got absolutely devastated 40 minutes south of me. 15ft surge.

 

[OmNomNom]

As he should be.

getting sniped by Miles friggin' Wood is embarassing.

i think woody has an underrated shot

 

[glenwo2]

No TV and no Internet but everyone made it out ok and the house is still standing. Ft Meyers beach got absolutely devastated 40 minutes south of me. 15ft surge.

Glad you're okay, man. Stay safe.

 

[My3Sons]

No TV and no Internet but everyone made it out ok and the house is still standing. Ft Meyers beach got absolutely devastated 40 minutes south of me. 15ft surge.

Storm surge is devastating. Really glad that you and yours made it relatively ok. Continued wishes for your safety and well being.

 

[glenwo2]

i think woody has an underrated shot

If he lifted the puck instead of firing it at the pads while skating at Top Speed, he'd be unstoppable.

 

[My3Sons]

I’m just going to answer the first question since the rest are all obviously facetious rhetorical.

You can avoid injury through skill. Let’s take an extreme example. If I took to the ice against NHL players…with my supremely inferior athleticism, skating ability, reflexes, agility, hand-eye coordination, strength, hockey iq, awareness, etc…how much more likely do you think I am to get injured than the average NHL player? I’d say my likelihood is actually exponentially greater.

Some people are just more cognizant of how to avoid getting hurt. Others have an instinct. Some people are simply built more durably and can withstand more physical punishment without getting as injured as others.

Nico got hit in the face with a puck. This gets dismissed as a freak accident, which I understand. But the reality is that different player may have reacted quicker, or moved a different direction that would result in the puck not hitting exactly where it hit Nico. And if he didn’t have several other injuries over the last year, it would be largely forgotten about. But context and trends matter.

I am genuinely mystified that this has to be parsed out for people who are hardcore sports fans.

You make a good point, but you won't convince me that the Subban shot was a lack of skill to get out of the way. The puck changed direction and came through at least one body and Hischier was moving as well. The distance to react to what was probably a puck moving at 80-90 mph just wasn't enough. Like Hamilton taking the puck to the face. The hamstrings and ribs and similar things, sure, there is an element to avoiding that.

 

[TrufleShufle]

If he lifted the puck instead of firing it at the pads while skating at Top Speed, he'd be unstoppable.

I don't know if this is new this pre-season or after that "I don't care about shots from the blueline" type comment someone on the staff made last year(?), but Wood seems to be getting in and more often slamming on the brakes if there isn't a skating lane to the net, rather than just firing it towards the net the second he crosses the blueline.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Just let the season start already, I can’t have the same conversations any more times

 

[SKNJD9]

Just let the season start already, I can’t have the same conversations any more times

Game 53
" ya know Nico would of scored that if he had a full training camp "

 

[HBK27]

Just let the season start already, I can’t have the same conversations any more times

Yup.

Always seems like the Devils start later than most teams.

Why are there only 2 games tonight and we still have to wait 2 more days to start?!?!?

 

[Triumph]

I’m just going to answer the first question since the rest are all obviously facetious rhetorical.

You can avoid injury through skill. Let’s take an extreme example. If I took to the ice against NHL players…with my supremely inferior athleticism, skating ability, reflexes, agility, hand-eye coordination, strength, hockey iq, awareness, etc…how much more likely do you think I am to get injured than the average NHL player? I’d say my likelihood is actually exponentially greater.

Some people are just more cognizant of how to avoid getting hurt. Others have an instinct. Some people are simply built more durably and can withstand more physical punishment without getting as injured as others.

Nico got hit in the face with a puck. This gets dismissed as a freak accident, which I understand. But the reality is that different player may have reacted quicker, or moved a different direction that would result in the puck not hitting exactly where it hit Nico. And if he didn’t have several other injuries over the last year, it would be largely forgotten about. But context and trends matter.

I am genuinely mystified that this has to be parsed out for people who are hardcore sports fans.

It has to be parsed out to hardcore sports fans because you insist on including 'getting hit in the face with a puck' as part of this, and the reason you do it is because 'context and trends matter'. This isn't an explanation for anything. Context and trends is just saying 'I like grouping things together that don't belong together' and calling that 'context'. Avoiding or not incurring soft-tissue injuries like hamstring injuries is part of the skill of avoiding being hurt. Being struck by a puck in the face is something that can happen to any hockey player, there is no skill to avoiding it at all, the puck is flying around out there, sometimes it deflects off something and smashes into a guy's face. I am genuinely mystified that this has to be parsed out to someone who purports to watch hockey often.

 

[HBK27]

Right....

 

[Hisch13r]

 

[Cheddabombs]

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I’m just going to answer the first question since the rest are all obviously facetious rhetorical.

You can avoid injury through skill. Let’s take an extreme example. If I took to the ice against NHL players…with my supremely inferior athleticism, skating ability, reflexes, agility, hand-eye coordination, strength, hockey iq, awareness, etc…how much more likely do you think I am to get injured than the average NHL player? I’d say my likelihood is actually exponentially greater.

Some people are just more cognizant of how to avoid getting hurt. Others have an instinct. Some people are simply built more durably and can withstand more physical punishment without getting as injured as others.

Nico got hit in the face with a puck. This gets dismissed as a freak accident, which I understand. But the reality is that different player may have reacted quicker, or moved a different direction that would result in the puck not hitting exactly where it hit Nico. And if he didn’t have several other injuries over the last year, it would be largely forgotten about. But context and trends matter.

I am genuinely mystified that this has to be parsed out for people who are hardcore sports fans.

I’m sorry but not being able to avoid a small black object travelling 100mph that gets unexpectedly deflected in your direction from a few feat away has nothing to do with skill or reactions lol. Nobody on this planet has the reaction time to avoid that.

I do agree however that some players are more prone to injuries. Don’t think it has much to do with skill as it does how they play the game and the positions they put themselves in. Nico is a skilled player who works his ass of and engages in battle.
There is also just a really shit luck component.

 

[Devs3cups]

Glad Nico is back at practice. Considering he was on the PP units, he should be back for Thursday, especially with most likely another practice tomorrow and a skate Thursday morning to get back into it even more. Good news.

Great news!