Devils fans throw beer on ice, Leafs bench. Cause delay of game.

[Captain3rdLine]

Minor penalties aren't reviewable, goals are.

But they didn’t review it. It was purely the refs judgement call. The ref decided not to call a penalty on Tatar. Goal should’ve stood. If he thought it wasn’t incidental he should’ve called a penalty. That’s if he was doing his job properly.

 

[Sypher04]

Either way the ref didn’t do his job properly.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Seems like the league has given the refs the power to make discretionary calls or non calls in several areas of the game, otherwise we’d see actual consequences for the refs not calling the game 100% purely by the book.

Even the rule book is littered with contradictions

 

[thusk]

if the contact isn’t incidental it’s a penalty. He didn’t call it a penalty this saying that the contact is incidental. I’m which case the goal has to stand.

No matter what you think the ref didn’t follow the rulebook there. It’s either a penalty or a goal once he doesn’t call it a penalty.


And should’ve been called a penalty before that then. The ref didn’t call a penalty on the play. He should’ve if he thought it wasn’t incidental.

If the contact is intentionnal, its 100% penalty

If its incidental but player didn't made any effort to avoid it, ref can still call a penalty or call contact on goaltender and disallowed the goal like he did

 

[TheFinalWord]

But they didn’t review it. It was purely the refs judgement call. The ref decided not to call a penalty on Tatar. Goal should’ve stood. If he thought it wasn’t incidental he should’ve called a penalty. That’s if he was doing his job properly.

Just so I understand, since you've posted the same thing about 50 times in this thread...you feel it was OK for the fans to throw everything at the Leaf players and on the ice. Is that correct? Because that's what the thread is about. Even if you think all 3 calls were blown, you're saying it's OK for what happened to happen.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Just so I understand, since you've posted the same thing about 50 times in this thread...you feel it was OK for the fans to throw everything at the Leaf players and on the ice. Is that correct? Because that's what the thread is about. Even if you think all 3 calls were blown, you're saying it's OK for what happened to happen.

Just so I understand; you feel that there's no place in a thread like this to discuss the underlying reasons why some fans chose to do what they did? Justifying their actions is impossible; but if you've just shelled out a weeks salary to see a team in which you're emotionally vested get completely jobbed by the refs on a couple of dicey borderline calls and one blown call... It's more than understandable. If that was a world cup soccer game people would've died.

I fully expect to see more of this shit, esp. when it comes to higher ticket prices, and calls going the big market big $$$ team.'s way.

Maybe the Leafs should play in armor, then.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

NHL going to fine the fans $5000 collectively; the max allowable under the CBA

 

[Clam Jensen]

Just so I understand; you feel that there's no place in a thread like this to discuss the underlying reasons why some fans chose to do what they did? Justifying their actions is impossible; but if you've just shelled out a weeks salary to see a team in which you're emotionally vested get completely jobbed by the refs on a couple of dicey borderline calls and one blown call...

I fully expect to see more of this shit, esp. when it comes to higher ticket prices, and calls going the big market big $$$ team.'s way.

Maybe the Leafs should play in armor, then.

The Blue Jays almost had to against Texas in the playoffs a few years back

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Just so I understand, since you've posted the same thing about 50 times in this thread...you feel it was OK for the fans to throw everything at the Leaf players and on the ice. Is that correct? Because that's what the thread is about. Even if you think all 3 calls were blown, you're saying it's OK for what happened to happen.

I said it earlier in the thread, you can understand why something happens but don't condone it. Why is this such a foreign concept?

 

[Suntouchable13]

The Blue Jays almost had to against Texas in the playoffs a few years back

At least it was playoffs. I don't remember Blue Jays fans or Leafs fans throwing shit on the playing surface (jerseys and waffles notwithstanding) in the regular season. It was very bizarre seeing that. Safe to say, NJ fans got a wee bit carried away.

 

[Clam Jensen]

At least it was playoffs. I don't remember Blue Jays fans or Leafs fans throwing shit on the playing surface (jerseys and waffles notwithstanding) in the regular season. It was very bizarre seeing that. Safe to say, NJ fans got a wee bit carried away.

Definitely got carried away, my issue is all the other fanbases preaching from their ivory towers as if something similar wouldn’t happen in their teams barn

 

[TheFinalWord]

Just so I understand; you feel that there's no place in a thread like this to discuss the underlying reasons why some fans chose to do what they did? Justifying their actions is impossible; but if you've just shelled out a weeks salary to see a team in which you're emotionally vested get completely jobbed by the refs on a couple of dicey borderline calls and one blown call... It's more than understandable. If that was a world cup soccer game people would've died.

I fully expect to see more of this shit, esp. when it comes to higher ticket prices, and calls going the big market big $$$ team.'s way.

Maybe the Leafs should play in armor, then.

I love this response. Justifying their actions is impossible but you're going to justify it.

"They paid a lot and were very sad." Or the whataboutism you used with the World Cup is awesome.

And finish off with the conspiracy theories.

Awesome post. You've hit the trifecta.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

First one was probably a goal. The goalie goes down so easily on the 2nd. Can't blame the fans for freaking.

Honestly though, just one of those nights where the calls go against you. I get the frustration though. Three goals called back is pretty rough.

 

[TGWL]

The first one is the right call. Fans of the team just hate it. Murray came to a complete stop when moving over because of that. That's interference no matter how much you hate seeing that called. Maybe it doesn't impact the save. Who knows. But because his movement came to a stop you have to call it.

Second one - a little iffy. On one hand, I think the leagues response of they determined it was more than incidental contact and the refs should have given a penalty was them trying to save face on the rule. But Murray played the puck and went in the direction of the net. It's not like he was just chilling outside the crease skating in the way of a player coming. He went back in the direction to the net. I don't think a goal should count but I also don't think a penalty should be made. By rule it's probably a goal because no way should a penalty be given.

3rd waived off goal. Right call. Even arguing that is ridiculous.

 

[Zaddy91]

This should happen more. Reffing has reached an all time low in the NHL. Imnediately more respect for NJ fans.

 

[DeletedUser539]

Overpriced but the selection has actually gotten a bit better. 60 minute ipa is basically the same price as bud lite at the prudential center.

Not bad

 

[cowboy82nd]

Just wondering if the Devils received a penalty for this.

 

[MCR74]

For all the bitching and moaning in this thread, I'm sure non-Leaf fans would share the exact same opinion had the roles been reversed last night.

 

[Guttersniped]

If the contact is intentionnal, its 100% penalty

If its incidental but player didn't made any effort to avoid it, ref can still call a penalty or call contact on goaltender and disallowed the goal like he did

It’s either a penalty or a goal if the goalie is outside the crease.

You can’t have no penalty and no goal in this situation.

The refs in the game got it so wrong that Toronto had to correct them later while the game was still going. (They argued that refs missed the penalty.)

The refs were worse than usual considering they screwed this up. That’s not up for debate.

 

[Martin Skoula]

It’s either a penalty or a goal if the goalie is outside the crease.

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You can’t have no penalty and no goal in this situation.

The refs in the game got it so wrong that Toronto had to correct them later while the game was still going. (They argued that refs missed the penalty.)

The refs were worse than usual considering they screwed this up. That’s not up for debate.

So NJ got off easy is what you're saying.

 

[Guttersniped]

Just wondering if the Devils received a penalty for this.

For goalie interference on the Tatar? No.

There was no goal and no penalty even though the player and goalie collided at the side of the net.

They really screwed it up.

 

[cowboy82nd]

For goalie interference on the Tatar? No.

There was no goal and no penalty even though the player and goalie collided at the side of the net.

They really screwed it up.

No, for fans throwing stuff on the ice.

 

[Guttersniped]

So NJ got off easy is what you're saying.

I’m saying the refs didn’t do their job well and seemingly didn’t even know the rule here.

I didn’t think the 2nd goal would count with better refs, typically all collisions like this go in the goalies favor. Goalies are protected and for good reason.

Might be nice if the refs knew the rules better considering it’s their job.

The first goalie interference was cartoonishly weak and a bad call though.

 

[Guttersniped]

No, for fans throwing stuff on the ice.

No, there wasn’t. There usually isn’t, not sure when a penalty for that has happened in a NHL game.

 

[Eggtimer]

Definitely got carried away, my issue is all the other fanbases preaching from their ivory towers as if something similar wouldn’t happen in their teams barn

This . Yes it’s wrong to throw shit but I am thinking that if I was there in person , being wrapped up in the intensity and emotions , seeing a winning streak on the line and having 3 goals disallowed PLUS Murray accidentally on purpose pushing the net off when they were pinned in their own zone…I can see how a person would be easy to have a brain cramp and follow suit.
Also, there was hardly any replays of the three disallowed goals shown at the arena, so most people there couldn’t see what exactly happened, just that 3 goals were taken back .

If the refs would have called a delay of game penalty Or unsportsmanlike penalty against the Devils after they threw shit…. and the Leafs scored ….there would have been people going ape shit and I can sympathize with them.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Honestly considering how much admission and a beer costs you should get to throw them at the players as much as you want