Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[Billdo]

Nico HAS to be a lifer. Nico eventually moving onto another team would upset me even more than if Jack left.

Agreed.

 

[HoliksGhost]

Agreed.

Parise level

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Issue there is Jack misses a ton of time and Nico needs help defensively which Pettersson could alleviate

Obviously there are other ways to do this but no other team can afford Pettersson's contract today/tomorrow without serious cap dumps

His 11.6 million dollar cap hit is insane if he doesn't regain his form. Doesn't matter if the cap goes up either. We need a slight retool with the forwards this summer, not a potential anchor of a contract with Petersson. We already have the Dougie, Palat and to an extent Meier deals.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Is there anything actually linking us to EP40?

Twitter boobs

 

[Devils731]

Twitter boobs

Also secret reporter discord. (Which I don’t actually disbelieve happened but it’s funny to write)

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Canucks can’t even stomach moving Boeser unless they’re getting a player back or can flip the return for one. Aquillini won’t let them rebuild. Hard to imagine Mercer and Nemec/Casey++ is enough for them to stomach losing two star centers in one season

 

[Lou Bloom]

His 11.6 million dollar cap hit is insane if he doesn't regain his form. Doesn't matter if the cap goes up either. We need a slight retool with the forwards this summer, not a potential anchor of a contract with Petersson. We already have the Dougie, Palat and to an extent Meier deals.

I don't think Pettersson is actually available but if he is and could be had for a reasonable price then I'd absolutely be interested in Pettersson. He's an elite two way center that prior to this season was a career PPG player. $11.6M for that is easily justifiable and with the cap set to jump up significantly over the next three years that $11.6M could look like a bargain.

 

[Eggtimers]

People really want Petersson ? We are set with our top 2 centers. Petersson has a ton of skill but the last thing we need is a somewhat reclamation project.

An 11 mil per reclamation project at that too

 

[My3Sons]

EP40 trade basically makes itself.

Palat at $6mil
Haula at $3mil
Tatar at $2mil

Easy and done

Edit: that’s an entire line of players and Vancouver even saves a bit of cap. I don’t see any way they can possibly say no.

 

[onmygameboi]

No. We don't need another soft player. Kudos to the soft players out there, but we have enough.

 

[Eggtimers]

I don't think Pettersson is actually available but if he is and could be had for a reasonable price then I'd absolutely be interested in Pettersson. He's an elite two way center that prior to this season was a career PPG player. $11.6M for that is easily justifiable and with the cap set to jump up significantly over the next three years that $11.6M could look like a bargain.

Where do you play him though? We have two elite Cs already . Unless you slap him on the wing next to Jack and folks in at C when needed ?

 

[guitarguyvic]

Hard to imagine that Petterson is suddenly a permanent 40 point player now at 26.

That being said, if Fitz wants him that might be a red flag in and of itself. LOL

Also I question if it makes sense from a roster construction standpoint. Another soft skilled forward? We need guys nore in the mold of ROR or Tkachuk.

 

[Derps]

An 11 mil per reclamation project at that too

This just feels like a wild overstatement for a ~25 game terrible stretch

 

[Lou Bloom]

An 11 mil per reclamation project at that too

He put up 89 points just last season with elite defense and 102 points the year before that. Crazy to think 55 games of subpar play outweighs his career as a PPG elite defensive center.

I don't even think he's actually available but if he were he'd absolutely be a top target.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

I don't think Pettersson is actually available but if he is and could be had for a reasonable price then I'd absolutely be interested in Pettersson. He's an elite two way center that prior to this season was a career PPG player. $11.6M for that is easily justifiable and with the cap set to jump up significantly over the next three years that $11.6M could look like a bargain.

They are playing important games and his game is still off since they moved Miller. Quinn Hughes being hurt shouldn't impact his game this much if it has been used as an excuse. Then we have to worry if he meshes here as well. Especially on the powerplay and having to play possibly as a wing instead of center.

 

[Eggtimers]

Canucks can’t even stomach moving Boeser unless they’re getting a player back or can flip the return for one. Aquillini won’t let them rebuild. Hard to imagine Mercer and Nemec/Casey++ is enough for them to stomach losing two star centers in one season

Maybe they think they can flip Nemec / Casey for an NHL ready player or bundle assets for one . Mercer would pencil in their lineup and use whatever else they get on landing another C ? EP40 for what could end up being something like Mercer plus Cozens for example ( use Nemec to get Cozens plus ?) plus have additional assets plus ample cap room to extend Q Hughes ? I don’t know . I just can’t see VanC trading EP40 . They would ne decimated at C and would be giving up on him too soon unless they feel he isn’t the piece they should build around.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The Canucks are a massive mess. Trying to figure out what is going on there is pointless

 

[Lou Bloom]

They are playing important games and his game is still off since they moved Miller. Quinn Hughes being hurt shouldn't impact his game this much if it has been used as an excuse. Then we have to worry if he meshes here as well. Especially on the powerplay and having to play possibly as a wing instead of center.

What do you think is more of an indicator moving forward. His 55 games this season or his previous 400+ games?

 

[RSeen]

He put up 89 points just last season with elite defense and 102 points the year before that. Crazy to think 55 games of subpar play outweighs his career as a PPG elite defensive center.

I don't even think he's actually available but if he were he'd absolutely be a top target.

I don't think its just this year that is the issue - he was not productive to end last year, playoffs included.

 

[onmygameboi]

What do you think is more of an indicator moving forward. His 55 games this season or his previous 400+ games?

NHL players peak at 26.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Every time a team gets Jakub Vrana thinking they're the ones to polish him off and get a great player, he inevitably gets dumped a few weeks later. At some point you have to stop falling for it and just admit that sometimes it's the player's fault.

However I read in a Caps-centric publication on line yesterday that he has been quite good for Washington this year, that there were no complaints about him, and that waiving him was a numbers game. He was sitting because he was the odd man out amongst better competitors on a team that is playing well and they were clearing roster space and cap. Now this may or may not be true (I will try to find a link) - but if he were indeed a good citizen, why wouldn’t we be interested ? He would seem made to order because he is legitimately a gifted sniper.

 

[My3Sons]

The Canucks are a massive mess. Trying to figure out what is going on there is pointless

My wife says the same thing about the inside of my head but you morons read my stuff anyway.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Vrana update - I see Nashville claimed him this afternoon. So he never made it as far as us anyway.

 

[longislanddevil]

Just don’t do anything stupid and crazy, Fitzgerald. I get wanting to give the guys in the room perception that we are “going for it” but we all know without Jack we have no real chance. The trade earlier today scares the crap out of me as you don’t make that deal unless you have something much bigger in mind. Retool in the offseason. Teams know we are desperate and have no negotiation power here.

 

[Winnie the Pooh]

His 11.6 million dollar cap hit is insane if he doesn't regain his form. Doesn't matter if the cap goes up either. We need a slight retool with the forwards this summer, not a potential anchor of a contract with Petersson. We already have the Dougie, Palat and to an extent Meier deals.

While I agree itd be an anchor if it doesnt work out, its certainly a chance you can take if youre confident he can play to 75% of his deal (with a future cap raise, i dont buy the Trump nonsense)