Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part III

[Devilsgrl35]

Didn't we also get a 4th in the Cotter trade? Could be a nice spare asset in the backpocket.

 

[My3Sons]

In the last 19 game it doesn't look like Evans has done anything but stink. If my math is correct he has 1 goal and 3 assists in that time and is a -4. That's a slight upgrade on Haula but for a second round pick? I'd probably look elsewhere. There's probably some failed center on another team that can be mediocre plus for NJ for less than a second.

 

[Bone Density]

In the last 19 game it doesn't look like Evans has done anything but stink. If my math is correct he has 1 goal and 3 assists in that time and is a -4. That's a slight upgrade on Haula but for a second round pick? I'd probably look elsewhere. There's probably some failed center on another team that can be mediocre plus for NJ for less than a second.

That's fair but he's being relied upon heavily defensively. I think almost 80% defensive zone starts. Solid on draws and an excellent penalty killer.

 

[SKNJD9]

Really sounds as if Fitzy has been talking to Seattle the most. Chicago was smart to wait to move Donato, its a full on bidding war for him

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Really sounds as if Fitzy has been talking to Seattle the most. Chicago was smart to wait to move Donato, its a full on bidding war for him

Gourde and McCann come on down!!!

 

[Lou Bloom]

I think Nemec and Mercer have been big disappointments this season. I think trading them while they're values are still high either at the TDL or the offseason is the way to go.

 

[NJDevilsFan21]

Really sounds as if Fitzy has been talking to Seattle the most. Chicago was smart to wait to move Donato, its a full on bidding war for him

Kaapo Kakko to NJ (with maybe a Bjorkstrand included)

 

[MasterofGrond]

I do think there’s a reasonable discussion to be had whether it’s time to cut bait on Mercer.

“It’s time to trade Nemec” is crazy talk

 

[longislanddevil]

Didn't we also get a 4th in the Cotter trade? Could be a nice spare asset in the backpocket.

Even better…we got a 3rd round pick back and have Winnipeg’s 2nd round pick from the Toffoli trade. Too bad that 2nd is virtually a 3rd with the Jets likely finishing with a top 2-3 record. We do not have our own third round pick though (Allen trade). We have two seconds and a third.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Even better…we got a 3rd round pick back and have Winnipeg’s 2nd round pick from the Toffoli trade. Too bad that 2nd is virtually a 3rd with the Jets likely finishing with a top 2-3 record. We do not have our own third round pick though (Allen trade). We have two seconds and a third.

we have Edmonton's 2nd as well this year

three 2nds (NJ, EDM, WPG), one 3rd (VGK)

 

[longislanddevil]

we have Edmonton's 2nd as well this year

three 2nds (NJ, EDM, WPG), one 3rd (VGK)

That’s right! I forgot about this one. From the Marino trade?

Despite not having a first, we have lots of ammo as the trade deadline gets closer.

 

[Devilsgrl35]

we have Edmonton's 2nd as well this year

three 2nds (NJ, EDM, WPG), one 3rd (VGK)

Lots of assets to play with. We're sitting pretty well for the deadline or even at the draft for another Kovy-esque trade if there are any leftovers.

 

[devilsblood]

That's fair but he's being relied upon heavily defensively. I think almost 80% defensive zone starts. Solid on draws and an excellent penalty killer.

64% on the season, but 55% in the last 20. 52% in the last 10.

The team probably saw that workload taking a toll.

 

[Bone Density]

64% on the season, but 55% in the last 20.

The team probably saw that workload taking a toll.

Yeah my bad, forgot neutral zone starts for some reason. A little more offense would help with his value too.

 

[Lou Bloom]

I do think there’s a reasonable discussion to be had whether it’s time to cut bait on Mercer.

“It’s time to trade Nemec” is crazy talk

Not when you have Hamilton, Pesce signed long term with Kovacevic as a pending UFA and Casey killing it in Utica. While Nemec is underperforming and without a clear role in PP (behind Hamilton, Luke and arguably Casey) and without a clear role on the PK since his defense is still a weakness. Not to mention he’s an offense first defenseman without dynamic scoring ability.

I think they could get much better short and long term value by trading him and improving the forward group.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Hamilton has to be gone this summer.

 

[MakoSlade]

Considering there have been rumors Fitzgerald likes Evans and has checked in on Evans already, there could be something to this. Then again, we were already in Montreal yesterday anyway so it may not mean all that much. We shall see.

@MakoSlade I have that same impression as you about their GM. At the time, I thought a conditional second round pick was a steep price for Allen (didn’t envision him being this solid). If their asking price is too high, simply move on.

I recall a rumor posted on HFB around mid-season that Ken Hughes wanted a 1st for Allen. That is why I wasn't too upset GMTF didn't solve the goalie issue earlier - I feel the market was ridiculous for buyers.

 

[My3Sons]

Yeah my bad, forgot neutral zone starts for some reason. A little more offense would help with his value too.

I just think MTL will try to sell him based on his early hit streak and at this point workload or no workload I wouldn’t buy him on that basis as opposed to what he’s doing now. If he’s going to play mostly defense to ease some of Hischier’s burden he’s likely to produce more or less what he’s done since the new year. To me that’s just not worth a second.

 

[glenwo2]

Question :

Will there be a GDT for the 4 Nations Face-Off?

 

[Forge]

Hamilton has to be gone this summer.

I'd be surprised if he is.

 

[Billdo]

Hamilton has to be gone this summer.

Agreed. Move on from him, sign Kovacevic.

Hughes-Nemec
Siegenthaler-Kovacevic
Dillon-Pesce

 

[NJDevs26]

I'd be surprised if he is.

I think it depends on Kovacevic, can’t see both leaving or both staying

 

[youryeah]

Really sounds as if Fitzy has been talking to Seattle the most. Chicago was smart to wait to move Donato, its a full on bidding war for him

I'd love jared mccann on this team man. doubt seattle trades him though

gourde is injured and hasn't been great this year..

bjorkstrand?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I'd be surprised if he is.

oh I don't see Fitz doing it.

But it absolutely is the move to make. You can get two quality players for the money he makes.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Hamilton has to be gone this summer.

They're not moving Hamilton. He's still a top 10 defenseman in offensive rating right behind Makar, Werenski, Q. Hughes, Bouchard, Fox, Karlsson, Dahlin and Harley.

They aren't going to rely on rookies who haven't proven anything to replace him. Dillon needs to go more than anyone.