Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Bleedred]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802791516282274212

How will this work if the Devils technically open next season Oct 4 & 5 in Prague?

By all accounts those seem to be regular season games, so maybe the Devils main roster ships out after the Rangers game on the 30th?

Who is going to be left behind to play that Oct 3rd game against the Flyers?

I'm thinking it'll probably be mostly the AHL guys by that last game, potentially even those last two-three games. I wouldn't be surprised if we play another exhibition game against one of the European teams, like we did the last time when we played Bern. It seems to be common for the NHL teams opening up the season over there.

I bet most of the regulars + just a few select borderline guys (like how Ty Smith went in 2018 lol) all leave over that weekend after that Islanders game on the 27th. Leaving behind mostly the AHL team to play out those last two preseason games locally. While the opening night roster + a very select few others depart for Europe around the 28th or 29th to play an exhibition game against one of the Euro league teams, then to Prague for the two regular season opening games.

 

[Ripshot 43]

John Gibson f***ing sucks

He's a cyanide pill for Fitz. Acquiring him would just be throwing your hands up and saying I give up, fire the f*** out of me. Even the guys who run our goaltending department have to know better than that.

We can't afford to have him clogging up our books for 3 more years, even if they retain a good amount of it.

John Gibson isn't any good. Annually his backups play at least as well, if not marginally better than him. Albeit in fewer games.

This year I think Dostal actually played one or two more games than him, and performed a little bit better while playing that much of a workload.

So if John Gibson is sooooo good, then what the f*** is Dostal? ELITE?!

Is it his 3.99 GAA average 2 years ago or maybe his .888 save percentage this past year? Clearly Gibson is primed for a turnaround!

 

[Zippy316]

I'm thinking it'll probably be mostly the AHL guys by that last game, potentially even those last two-three games. I wouldn't be surprised if we play another exhibition game against one of the European teams, like we did the last time when we played Bern. It seems to be common for the NHL teams opening up the season over there.

I bet most of the regulars + just a few select borderline guys (like how Ty Smith went in 2018 lol) all leave over that weekend after that Islanders game on the 27th. Leaving behind mostly the AHL team to play out those last two preseason games locally. While the opening night roster + a very select few others depart for Europe around the 28th or 29th to play an exhibition game against one of the Euro league teams, then to Prague for the two regular season opening games.

That is probably the case but why play so many pre-season games.

Like there’s no way the Devils hit the veteran mark unless it’s a bunch of washed up veterans invited to training camp that they have no intention of signing.

You’re going to have an AHL team plus a bunch of vets playing against what likely will be the full NHL squads for the Rangers & Islanders. Don’t see what good that does for anyone.

 

[Brodeur]

How will this work if the Devils technically open next season Oct 4 & 5 in Prague?

By all accounts those seem to be regular season games, so maybe the Devils main roster ships out after the Rangers game on the 30th?

Who is going to be left behind to play that Oct 3rd game against the Flyers?

Probably will just be an AHL squad, PTOs, and maybe some draft picks before we send them back to juniors/Europe. The Kings/Ducks had a preseason game in San Diego last year, it ended up being AHL rosters but both squads wore the NHL uniforms.

There's an obscure rule in the CBA where teams have to dress at least 8 "veterans" in every preseason game. Not sure if we get an exemption due to playing overseas. Kings/Ducks didn't seem to hit that minimum either, but maybe there's an exemption when not playing at an NHL arena?

 

[Goptor]

I believe its typical lazy rumor. Gibson has mostly negative value with his salary. May be someone will ready to take him for minor compensation, but overall he is below average goalie now.

Its a Fitz drop. Telling those teams "Hey, look. There are a lot of goalies being shopped right now and less teams looking. If you wanna play games you could get stuck with nothing."

 

[Guttersniped]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802764659197403313

Tfp so blah

Why the f*** are we linked to Mangiapane? To torment me?

 

[Forge]

Why the f*** are we linked to Mangiapane? To torment me?

I would assume because people just randomly started throwing his name into the conversation about markstrom, as though Markstrom + Mangi @ 50% is the missing piece to get #10.

I just can't imagine that he's the type of skater Fitz would be looking for at this point.

 

[HoliksGhost]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

 

[Captain3rdLine]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

Pretty slim and it’s gonna take forever anyways. Probably not worth asking about or discussing.

 

[Forge]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

None of those guys are playing again until that matter is settled in court. I don't think that's starting until 25

 

[MWagg72]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

He's the only one with two charges so I'm assuming he's the one who allegedly took her to his room and called the others. No clue what the odds are he's found innocent, but if my assumptions are correct, it wouldn't surprise me if he's the only one to get a guilty verdict if the other players can prove they didn't know she was not a willing participant.

That being said, they are all innocent until proven guilty. I wouldn't count on him being a member of the team in the foreseeable future though as court cases have a way of taking too much time to fully resolve.

 

[Andre Palot]

If we get Gibson, the @Bleedred GDTs will be required reading

 

[Guadana]

If we get Gibson, the @Bleedred GDTs will be required reading

Fitz will trade 10oa + Daws for Gibson and Allen+Schmid for Korpisalo. 1mil retained ofcourse

 

[Billdo]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

Zero

 

[njdevils1982]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

None of those guys are playing again until that matter is settled in court. I don't think that's starting until 25

from 6 days ago....mid august talk in the write up

Trial date remains unclear in Hockey Canada sexual assault case

Still no trial date has been set for five members of Canada’s 2018 world junior hockey team charged with sexual assault.

lfpress.com

and no, i dont think he will ever play for the devils again

 

[Darkauron]

Who is Mcleod? Never heard of him. Next!

 

[forceten]

Who is Mcleod? Never heard of him. Next!

Speedy third/fourth line tweener for the Edmonton Oilers. Ryan McLeod. He's alright.

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

If we get Gibson, the @Bleedred GDTs will be required reading

I initially read this as "will require editing" and somehow that makes sense too.

 

[Patrik26]

Pretty slim and it’s gonna take forever anyways. Probably not worth asking about or discussing.

At which time his skills would likely be useless. Meh.

 

[SKNJD9]

So what’s the deal with McLeod? Is a trial going on ? What are the odds he’s proven innocent and we take him back ?

They're still years away from a trial

 

[MB3]

If McLeod was even a teeeeeeeeeeeeeny tiny bit innocent, don't you think he/his agent would be screaming "this is bullshit and I'm innocent" hourly?

If he wasn't such a piece of human filth, he'd be looking at a $12+m contract this offseason. Maybe more.

 

[njdevils1982]

If McLeod was even a teeeeeeeeeeeeeny tiny bit innocent, don't you think he/his agent would be screaming "this is bullshit and I'm innocent" hourly?

If he wasn't such a piece of human filth, he'd be looking at a $12+m contract this offseason. Maybe more.

a wasted gift he threw away.

in other history of WTF

this guy played on my soccer club in the mid 80s to early 90s...in later years he owned a prominent toronto bar and f***ed it all up big time

article from this past february update on whats happening

Convictions upheld in 'violent,' 'degrading' College Street Bar sex assault case

The owner of the defunct College Street Bar and one of his managers had their sexual assault and drugging convictions upheld on Thursday.

torontosun.com

 

[Triumph]

Definitely don't think the odds are zero, I will be surprised if the Devils don't give him a QO, unless the league rules that he and the other players are ineligible to receive one. I do think it's a longshot that he ever plays again.

If McLeod was even a teeeeeeeeeeeeeny tiny bit innocent, don't you think he/his agent would be screaming "this is bullshit and I'm innocent" hourly?

If he wasn't such a piece of human filth, he'd be looking at a $12+m contract this offseason. Maybe more.

There's no incentive to be screaming about being innocent. The trial isn't for another year at least, probably.

 

[MB3]

Definitely don't think the odds are zero, I will be surprised if the Devils don't give him a QO, unless the league rules that he and the other players are ineligible to receive one. I do think it's a longshot that he ever plays again.



There's no incentive to be screaming about being innocent. The trial isn't for another year at least, probably.

What? There are 12 million reasons to be screaming about being innocent, if he were innocent.

Much smaller scale but it’s not too dissimilar to the Panarin thing last year, where there was the bad intel that he beat up his girlfriend and he very adamantly and immediately maintained his innocence.

The lack of any sort of public denial is absolutely 1,000,000% damning.

 

[Triumph]

What? There are 12 million reasons to be screaming about being innocent, if he were innocent.

Much smaller scale but it’s not too dissimilar to the Panarin thing last year, where there was the bad intel that he beat up his girlfriend and he very adamantly and immediately maintained his innocence.

The lack of any sort of public denial is absolutely 1,000,000% damning.

It's not damning. There has been a public denial. What's not in dispute is that some sort of encounter happened, what's in dispute is whether it was consensual. Chances are it wasn't; proving that in a court of law is another matter. It's been a while since I read about the case but it seems like that is the only reasonable legal strategy here, which is obviously extremely ugly - consequently it doesn't make any sense to be talking about this.