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It's definitely not shoulder injury, and if it is, it's very minor. The other one it was quite obvious it was shoulder. Looks more like head/neck to me. Also no, different shoulder.
I don’t think it’s a concussion. Looked more like separated shoulder/AC joint/collarbone.

That’s in line with the take a few days to evaluate status.
 

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Day or two to determine how serious things are sounds more like results of scans/tests on the shoulder or neck than concussion.

I think they would know if he had a concussion already.
Yes and no. I have personally had 5 concussions in my life. 3 from hockey (which is why I had to stop playing). I felt OK on Two of them until the next day where things deteriorated. That’s just my experience but everyone is different
 

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He would have been on the ice in agony if he snapped his collarbone. He absolutely would not have taken another shift.

Same if he separated his shoulder.
Agree on collarbone, I don’t think that’s what it is. He absolutely could have played an additional shift with a separated shoulder or similar.
 

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I don’t think it’s a concussion. Looked more like separated shoulder/AC joint/collarbone.

That’s in line with the take a few days to evaluate status.

His first reaction was grabbing his head. 🤷‍♀️ Also, if it was shoulder injury, I don't think he'd be able to get into that position he did after the collision.
 

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It can be either, I want to say for the sake of how bad concussions are that I would be highly pissed if our medical staff heard his symptoms and let him go out the next shift to play. Also, let's not forget he took a decent sized hit on the powerplay. I think it's a shoulder thing because he didn't even attempt to shoot on the powerplay when we had it.
 
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But did we ever get a good look at the 2nd hit? Maybe the 2nd one is the one where actually got hurt?


But I do think it's pretty crazy that a week after losing your other #1 draft pick in part because you threw him back out there after a big hit. You do the exact same thing with your other #1?
I’m not sure if people commenting have experience with concussions.

1. They’re not easy to diagnose. Same hit will cause a concussion for some and not for others.

2. Doctors are reliant on the injured person to give them info. Often the person will say they feel ok.

3. Sometimes it’s only after further activity / stress that the person realizes they are not ok. They’ll do more and then complain of a headache or wooziness.

People are making it out to be so obvious and it’s just not.
 

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He would have been on the ice in agony if he snapped his collarbone. He absolutely would not have taken another shift.

Same if he separated his shoulder.

Yeah. Nate / Kovy had nasty shoulder stuff they couldn't do shit and went right off. (Was at both games. Remember Kovy hitting that edge and tanking into the boards with his 230 lbs and Nate last year)

Same for collarbone. I've fractured that before you can't do shit when it's messed up. Lifting arms elbows up hurts like hell.
 

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Isn't that kinda how we had it in 2021-2022 and we kinda blew the barn doors off with rush chances but also crashed hard defensively. Then Ruff and co tweaked it last year to what we've had since which is a bit more reserved and more quick pass possession based...
I think you’re taking about the stretch pass breakout, which was bad when overly done. The Devils do less flying the zone now, which is good.

I’m talking about the defensive positioning and how it transitions into the breakout. Ruff has coached the swarm since he got here. It pulls all the wingers extremely low in the zone and puts 3-4 guys along the boards pursuing the puck. If the Devils do win the puck they’re in no position to breakout well, except guys like Jack or Bratt can turn dog food into filet mignon.

I’d rather see the Devils defense keep the wingers higher and not pursue the puck from behind the offensive player as much. Let the Devils defenders stake out their position and attack with the play in front of them, rather than from behind. The higher wingers keep the other teams defenders in check instead of allowing the defenders free rein as the Devils currently do. Also, higher wingers will mean chances to generate more odd man rushes.

The wingers currently stand in the slot and half boards, defend nothing half the time, and are in a bad position for breaking out.
 

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We are never going to know exactly what it is. He will either be day to day or week to week until he comes back.
This is why it’s insanely frustrating to be a hockey fan. You’ve got a league where great players are routinely out with injury, many of the times because you’ve got second rate players out there intentionally injuring the best players because the league doesn’t do anything substantive to stop it. Then to add insult to literal injury, they keep the specifics hush hush so fans have no sense of the severity or impact. The officiating is f***ing garbage and openly corrupted. They take good ideas and implement them in the worst f***ing ways (like spending five minutes to call back goals because someone is a hair’s length offside), and it’s an old boys club that still covers up for serious misconduct amongst its ranks with zero f***ing transparency.

Hockey is an absolutely wonderful sport…I bet it would be incredibly popular if it wasn’t run by a bunch of dumb arrogant blow hards.

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Yes and no. I have personally had 5 concussions in my life. 3 from hockey (which is why I had to stop playing). I felt OK on Two of them until the next day where things deteriorated. That’s just my experience but everyone is different

We all thought you had more like 10.
 
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