Detroit Redwings Downfall

[Fatass]

It's this shit I can't take seriously. The same people saying the Wings need difference makers fawning over Zegras...

Zegras would slot in as the Wings’ 2C and develop behind Larkin into an offensive 1C. Yzermsn needs to find elite guys in key positions. He needs a 1C which could be Zegras. He needs a 1D too, and maybe that’s ASP? But the point is he needs to find those players or the rebuild will stall at the mushy middle. Never being good enough to win much but not bad enough to draft high.

 

[norrisnick]

Zegras would slot in as the Wings’ 2C and develop behind Larkin into an offensive 1C. Yzermsn needs to find elite guys in key positions. He needs a 1C which could be Zegras. He needs a 1D too, and maybe that’s ASP? But the point is he needs to find those players or the rebuild will stall at the mushy middle. Never being good enough to win much but not bad enough to draft high.

Zegras isn't even playing center let alone one with 1C potential. Yzerman has two 1D and another on the way. The rebuild is fine, dude. Rash moves to speed up a process that cannot be sped up is a recipe for disaster.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Zegras isn't even playing center let alone one with 1C potential. Yzerman has two 1D and another on the way. The rebuild is fine, dude. Rash moves to speed up a process that cannot be sped up is a recipe for disaster.

Huh?

 

[VeteranPresence]

Yzerman has two 1D and another on the way.

Yeahhhh I’mma press X to doubt on that one hombre.

 

[norrisnick]

Huh?

Seider, Edvinsson, ASP. Everyone else is at best a #6, but the top end is in good shape for the future.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Seider, Edvinsson, ASP. Everyone else is at best a #6, but the top end is in good shape for the future.

You have maybe one #1 D in that trio, hahahahahaha.

 

[norrisnick]

Yeahhhh I’m press X to doubt on that one hombre.

That's fine.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Seider, Edvinsson, ASP. Everyone else is at best a #6, but the top end is in good shape for the future.

Its much more likely that none of them are a 1D than all D.

 

[norrisnick]

Its much more likely that none of them are a 1D than all D.

Considering one of them already is, your usage of "much more likely" seems suspect.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Considering one of them already is, your usage of "much more likely" seems suspect.

Seider isn't an indisputable 1D.

 

[norrisnick]

Seider isn't an indisputable 1D.

Then there's like 4 or 5 of them in the league and it doesn't matter if he is or not.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Yzerman needs to go back to drafting russians who fall on draft day

 

[The Panther]

Yzerman hasn't done great as a GM (so far). Why not get in shape and insert himself back into the line-up? He could just appear on the power-play. Dude had some hands.

 

[TKB]

You have maybe one #1 D in that trio, hahahahahaha.

Who do you think is the "maybe one?"

 

[Finnen]

He needs a 1C which could be Zegras.

Or Barzal.

He needs a 1D too, and maybe that’s ASP?

Maybe Sandin Pellikka from Skellefteå?

Maybe M.Pettersson from Penguins?

 

[Oddbob]

Seider isn't an indisputable 1D.

He absolutely is.

 

[logan5]

It's pretty normal now in the cap era for a team to miss the play-offs for 8 to 10 years. I can list a bunch of teams where that's the case, with still teams that have yet to go through a full rebuild in the cap era.

The cap really makes it difficult to do a rebuild so I would like to see the league provide some relief to teams who are taking forever to rebuild. It's very unhealthy for the league to have teams like Buffalo and Detroit spending a decade or more wasting away.

 

[Lampedampe]

It's pretty normal now in the cap era for a team to miss the play-offs for 8 to 10 years. I can list a bunch of teams where that's the case, with still teams that have yet to go through a full rebuild in the cap era.

The cap really makes it difficult to do a rebuild so I would like to see the league provide some relief to teams who are taking forever to rebuild. It's very unhealthy for the league to have teams like Buffalo and Detroit spending a decade or more wasting away.

I believe the solution here is to add more teams to the league.

 

[Dotter]

Proof is in the pudding. Wings are falling back again in their hope for the playoffs. At some point a rebuild needs to take a leap forward and that leap is dictated by the team’s top players. Yzerman had those guys in Tampa. He’s doesn’t even have one guy of that elite level in Detroit. Not too sure where he finds them. And as more of these younger guys come into their big dollar contracts, if the club continues to struggle they might need to give up on this rebuild and try again. All my opinion of course and could be totally wrong.

Proof is in the pudding, and every single bottom five Atlantic Division team are competing with one another to suck harder. Ottawa, MTL, Sabres, Boston and DRWs are proving to equally suck BAD. The only difference between those 5 teams is Boston has a proven history record.

OTT is so bad they just drafted 7th overall last draft, and they look to be hoving around the same next draft. Talk about true FAILURES!!!! And what's worse about OTT is they don't even have a deep prospect pool to help them; ranked 30th worse on dailyfaceoff, 25th on Bleacher, and 31st worse on Hockey Writers. That's smelly poo. poo. ass.

 

[Hasbro]

Gotta admit I saw this thread title and was hoping for a funny dubbed Hitler video.


For the unititated:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hitlers-downfall-parodies

Dave Lewis has been gone from the Wings for like 20 years though.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Its much more likely that none of them are a 1D than all D.

Very smart person: "SEIDER AND EDVINSSON ARE THE PROBLEM NOT PETRY AND CHIAROT"

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Say what you want about Larkin, he is roughly in the same spectre as Eichel, a little worse. Overall both have around 4 seasons of point per game. I'm critical of Larkin's progress, but he's good. However Seider is elite and has all the numbers to show for it, except more point production.
Maybe lower end elite now, but he is still improving. He will be among the top d-men in this league. Number wise he already getting the heavy loads league wide.

Larkin is a good player but not on the same tier as Eichel. One is the type of talent that can be the leading scorer in playoffs and the other a good complimentary piece on a cup winner.

Wings need elite talent to carry them to a win and Larkin is not it. Raymond is not it either.

 

[Finnen]

Wings need elite talent to carry them to a win and Larkin is not it.

Larkin is an approved and well-approved center type but I like Larkin as a second center or we have to trade him away for a little younger version kind Barzal or kind Zegras next centers Barzal/Copp or Copp/Zegras like 1C and 2C enough?

Copp chalk eight years of contract 8 million annual salary.

Raymond is not it either.

A Raymond swap can wait.

 

[Lampedampe]

Then there's like 4 or 5 of them in the league and it doesn't matter if he is or not.

You have to understand that Leafs fans have been dying on the 'Morgan Rielly is a 1#D' hill for a decade now. They will make sure that other fans pay their dues.

Besides, they're probably jealous that we have Seider and Edvinsson, who can actually play defense.

Very smart person: "SEIDER AND EDVINSSON ARE THE PROBLEM NOT PETRY AND CHIAROT"

What suprises me the most is that Petry and Chiarot are only 7th worst.

 

[Barsky]

You're completely ignoring the fact that Holland sold the future to keep the playoff streak alive while Mr Illitch was still alive.

Ottawa started rebuilding 1 year later than the wings and got to sell a 2nd in division, one goal away from the finals team in their prime. Now they're in the same place as Detroit in the standings with no prospects coming to help, while Detroit still has one of the best prospect pools in the league on its way

That Ottawa team had no business making a conference final in 2017 and no, they're not the same place as the Wings now, that's very wishful thinking on your part and Ottawa has the best RD prospect they've had since Karl, which is in their area of biggest need and no need for prospects to "help" anywhere else