Detroit Redwings Downfall

[Ulysses31]

A big thing you gotta consider when chasing big name UFAs is that they destroy an internal cap.

It seems pretty evident that the hold up with Seider, and the reason he didn't get an 8th year, was because they weren't going to let him make more than Larkin's $8.7M.

It's hard to tell the next group of guys "You don't get to make more than X" when you throw $12.5M at a Rantanen or a Marner. Not to mention it probably pisses off a guy like Seider who was likely told you can't make more than Larkin did, but then you turn around and give some outsider $4M/year more.

... All this aside from the fact that I think giving a UFA winger $12.5M/year is stupid in the first place lol.

think my offer would be about be around 10 or 11, being as they are marginally better players than larkin. if they signed for that huge of a discount i dont think any of seider, raymond, or larkin would feel slighted considering amount of $ left on table

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

think my offer would be about be around 10 or 11, being as they are marginally better players than larkin. if they signed for that huge of a discount i dont think any of seider, raymond, or larkin would feel slighted considering amount of $ left on table

Yeah... Neither of them is doing that haha.

 

[thefutures]

Marco kasper playing OUTSTANDING in January

 

[Ulysses31]

Yeah... Neither of them is doing that haha.

well obviously. I said that clearly above.

 

[J15]

guy way too eager to blow money on ufa superstar imo.

1) spits in eye of every player who took team friendly contracts like larkin raymond n seider did

So we can't sign any UFAs because it might offend Larkin, Raymond, or Seider? Every UFA is going to have inflated contracts not just the superstars.

2) even with tavares took a team friendly deal with the leafs he has still underperformed his contract (1mil or 2 Imo)

First of all, pointing to a bad free agent signing is not an argument against all free agent signings. The Leafs were right to sign Tavares. Sure they completely choked their cup window away, but they were right for at least trying to go for it.

3) related to 1)good luck getting decent rfa contracts in future

Future contracts are going to be dictated by market value across the league, not what players on the current roster are making.

4) also related to 1) core players will make drw pay out the nose when contracts up

Players will try and maximize the money they make regardless. Do you really think Yzerman is going to walk into his negotiation with Edvinsson's agent and say "we didn't sign Mitch Marner to a 14M AAV contract" and Edvinsson's agent will reply "yes good point, we will now lower our ask".

5) IMO hone what you got, sign ufa players who wanna b here to team friendly contracts, whether they 4th liners to superstars or players late in careers wanting to win

All fine but what happens when you've signed all the team friendly contracts that players want to sign and you still have 20M in cap space left over? Are we just not going to spend to the cap because we couldn't find enough players willing to take discounts? Fans don't celebrate good contracts because we saved the owner some money. The entire benefit of having contracts like Larkin, Raymond, and Seider is that we can now afford to go out and sign elite talent in FA.

6) longevity and patience soundest bet on trying to make a winner (SY obv alrdy knows that)

Mo Seider was drafted 6 years ago. The core is entering their prime. You have more quality prospects and picks than you will ever be able to fit in your roster. You have one of the best cap situations in the NHL. At some point you need to hit the gas and turn those organization advantages into on ice wins.