Fogelhund
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Kadri clearly has a grudge. You wonder how much of what he’s written is fully factual. He seems incapable of accepting responsibility for his actions, so it does make you wonder.
Details Surrounding Nazem Kadri Trade
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DarkKnight
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Guys remember Dubas wasn't going to put his own family through a tumultuous move either, recall his genuine season ending presser. He kept that promise so clearly Naz is viewing this with jaundiced eyes.
Trading Kadri was an asinine move. And for absolute dogshit back, literally the last thing we needed, a complete sheltered marshmallow on the backend.
Trading Kadri was an asinine move. And for absolute dogshit back, literally the last thing we needed, a complete sheltered marshmallow on the backend.
At least Kadri has an excuse for why he disappears in the playoffs and tbh it's a better one than the other overpaid bozos we got (too much passion)
Kurtz
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True there was a chance that he was going to stay on the team but then that undeniable package dropped into their lap.
Barrie on the last year his contract(50% retained
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Unsigned RFA Kerfoot
6th round pick
How could they say no?
Terrible trade, although lots of folks liked it at the time.
DarkKnight
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Literally the last type of D men everyone said we needed. It was a stunner of a move. Even if you argue we should have traded him, the return was such a square peg, round hole, fit. One of his worst moves for me, made me question if he knew how to build a team.
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How did they ever hire an apprentice GM?
Trading him is fine, but at least consult with the player so you don’t back yourself into a corner.
Trading him is fine, but at least consult with the player so you don’t back yourself into a corner.
Kurtz
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The worst, I think. But Barrie had a lot of people fooled with the way he looked for Colorado in the playoffs that year.
10 in 19 for 4.5M.
Swap that out for 24 in 38 (12 in 19) for 11M?
Kadri was also preoccupied with not being killed given the team we iced for the playoffs. He went on to produce over ppg in Colorado.
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Leafsfan74
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I don't know if he has a grudge or not, but most pro athletes are proud, he's probably no different and he loved playing in Toronto and was a fan favourite so I presume he wanted to see it through and try to win in Toronto.
I was a fan of his game and there was potential as a team that was never reached. He's far from alone in this regard as we can see from the current incarnation of the team. I still say the refs and the league screwed him for the games he was given, especially in the year in which he stood up for the borderline hit that Marleau took. The Bruins were given far too much support from the league and Kadri paid the price, unfairly in my opinion.
Ultimately, after watching cashiers working at grocery stores during covid, most for not much more than minimum wage, potentially risking their lives so that citizens could eat; these trades made a lifetime ago don't seem to be so profound anymore.
Only dubas thought it was a great idea to have zero grit in the lineup and have a bunch of munchkins in a contact sport.
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I’m not saying Dubas is to blame for this year’s team, but his mismanagement of the rebuild makes it almost impossible to win a Cup during the Mathew’s era.
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Sounds like a lot of excuses and an example of people using stats from other teams when we have a sample of them playing here.
Who cares what a player did on another team? We experience Kadri here.
Objectively... what are you going to do?
Tell him that "we're going to try and trade you", knowing its a possibility that you may not find the right deal... now he's stuck coming back to a team that has already told him "we don't want you anymore".
Like yeah, it's not great that he was traded when his wife was about to give birth... but that's the reality of the summer. Deals get done when deals get done. Better to rip off the bandaid when it comes. As others have mentioned, he was traded on July 1, captain's skates typically begin in late August. Be a lot worse getting traded midseason.
There's also another possibility that this version of the story probably doesn't consider -- that circumstances change.
Maybe somebody from above Dubas said "Kadri needs to go". Maybe they got a "knock your socks off" return from Calgary, and felt that once they had tried to trade him once, there was no repairing the relationship so they had to trade him elsewhere.
He's written an autobiography? Isn't that typically done after somebody has left the game by a few years?
It sure appears that way.
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He had a no-trade list and tried to trade him without getting it. That's why the Flames were calling him and trying to sell him on it. He was not being traded without him knowing. They chose to lie to him because they are bad people and horrible at their jobs.
Larcos_Unal
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I for one am shocked and appalled that 'world-renowned honest guy' Kyle Dubas would ever be two-faced and cunning. I mean he is as reliable as they come and in no way would he pop up anywhere else in two weeks, he could not put his family through that.
The exact guy we should have kept being thrown out like this is a bad look
1specter
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I'm not gonna get into the discussion of this too much because I'm gonna eventually read the book myself soon, but all I will say is that anyone who wants to tar and feather Kadri and call him an idiot for sticking up for his team and wearing his heart on his sleeve can get lost. Unlike other cowards who couldn't handle this market, he embraced all the adversity and scrutiny and wanted to be a Leaf for life. He proudly wore that crest every f***ing night and he went to war for his team. Even Matthews and others have mentioned in recent years after the trade that Naz was the best teammate and had a great attitude and outlook in the room. He had his warts but for better or for us he embraced who he was and truly grew up here, and he had the back of his team.
Blame the league for their double standard on reffing and supplementary discipline, or for the management and team for creating a cowardly culture where guys didn't have each other's backs. Why did it always land on Naz? DeBrusk almost pulled a Chara-Pacioretty on a respected vet like Marleau and there was no discipline for that. A season later Chara does EXACTY what Kadri did to DeBrusk but even more blatantly to Gallagher (he even mocks Gallagher for jerking back his neck out of recoil) and he doesn't even get a f***ing penalty Let alone a suspension, only a pathetic 5K fine. A 6'9 ogre doing that to a dude who is 5'10 at most in good lighting, what an absolute joke.
Naz loved Toronto and I wish we had more players who played with pride and passion like him. f*** Dubas for that dog shit video game trade, Barrie solved none of our problems and if anything was emblematic of the exact issues this team had in its roster construction, and was also a heartless coward himself
Blame the league for their double standard on reffing and supplementary discipline, or for the management and team for creating a cowardly culture where guys didn't have each other's backs. Why did it always land on Naz? DeBrusk almost pulled a Chara-Pacioretty on a respected vet like Marleau and there was no discipline for that. A season later Chara does EXACTY what Kadri did to DeBrusk but even more blatantly to Gallagher (he even mocks Gallagher for jerking back his neck out of recoil) and he doesn't even get a f***ing penalty Let alone a suspension, only a pathetic 5K fine. A 6'9 ogre doing that to a dude who is 5'10 at most in good lighting, what an absolute joke.
Naz loved Toronto and I wish we had more players who played with pride and passion like him. f*** Dubas for that dog shit video game trade, Barrie solved none of our problems and if anything was emblematic of the exact issues this team had in its roster construction, and was also a heartless coward himself
ULF_55
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Happens all the time in business.
Corporate business will lie to your face. Really have to know who has the power.
We're going in a different direction...
Fake drama created by his ghostwriter in order to sell the book.
Teams don't do trades when the playoffs are going on or immediately after getting eliminated. Trade talks would have come up several months later, so everything said at the meeting would have been true at the time.
Teams don't do trades when the playoffs are going on or immediately after getting eliminated. Trade talks would have come up several months later, so everything said at the meeting would have been true at the time.
therealkoho
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The NHL targets Kadri, the Bruins know it and so they target Naz who loses his temper and does what almost anybody else would've done. The NHL on the thinnest of pretenses goes overboard with the discipline and essentially costs the Leafs the series, and then they do it again the following year.
The Leafs at that point had seen enough, LeaFland is carrying the torches, pitchforks and a healthy disdain for Nazem blaming the ills of the world on him. The Leafs saw the opening and used it.
FF a few years, another playoff, same two teams, Bruins star David Pastrnak stops up short and blows up Morgan Reilly with the so called "Forsberg" check, the same check OEL used and was fined 5k for. Oh and without even a 2minute minor for Pastrnak, such is life!
I'm glad Naz has told the story and didn't shine it up too much leaving it pretty much intact. Unlike Wayne polishing up the LA trade.
The NHL targets Kadri, the Bruins know it and so they target Naz who loses his temper and does what almost anybody else would've done. The NHL on the thinnest of pretenses goes overboard with the discipline and essentially costs the Leafs the series, and then they do it again the following year.
The Leafs at that point had seen enough, LeaFland is carrying the torches, pitchforks and a healthy disdain for Nazem blaming the ills of the world on him. The Leafs saw the opening and used it.
FF a few years, another playoff, same two teams, Bruins star David Pastrnak stops up short and blows up Morgan Reilly with the so called "Forsberg" check, the same check OEL used and was fined 5k for. Oh and without even a 2minute minor for Pastrnak, such is life!
I'm glad Naz has told the story and didn't shine it up too much leaving it pretty much intact. Unlike Wayne polishing up the LA trade.
