SomeDude
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Why wouldn’t it be? Both the team and player are agreeing to terminate the contract. Happens pretty regularly it’s just most of the time the player requests it to sign in another league.
Contract Termination: [DET] Red Wings terminate contract of F Filip Zadina
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Maybe? Not out of the realm of possibility but again, with the garbage numbers and not wanting to mature in the AHL a bit, why does a team sign him over literally any of the decent FAs still available?
Tufted Titmouse
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It's ok Filip, the rest of the league filled Montreal and Ottawa's nets with puck for you. We got your back.
I'd guess that not every team has the cap space to sign guys like Tarasenko, Kane, etc. And perhaps those guys wouldn't have any interest in signing with a rebuilding club whereas Zadina can't be as picky.
SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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P.S.A to anyone wondering how this is a legal move.
Zadina was waved and cleared wavers.
Zadina said he would not report to Grand Rapids (AHL). This is a contract violation.
Detroit moves to terminate his contract based on his statement.
EDIT: Another likely scenario is that mutual termination was agreed upon by both Zadina and Detroit and his AHL statement means nothing.
Zadina has the right to contest the contract termination but opts not to.
Because Zadina accepts the terms of the termination he forfeits his contract.
Once the contract was terminated he became an UFA because no club holds his rights. (due to the termination of his contract, his rights are a part of that contract.)
I am not a lawyer and details of this may be off. This is to the best of my personal understanding of the situation.
EDIT: Also Detroit suffers no penalty to the cap like a buyout because the contract was voided. The money owed and cap hit disappear for both Detroit and Zadina.
Zadina was waved and cleared wavers.
Zadina said he would not report to Grand Rapids (AHL). This is a contract violation.
Detroit moves to terminate his contract based on his statement.
EDIT: Another likely scenario is that mutual termination was agreed upon by both Zadina and Detroit and his AHL statement means nothing.
Zadina has the right to contest the contract termination but opts not to.
Because Zadina accepts the terms of the termination he forfeits his contract.
Once the contract was terminated he became an UFA because no club holds his rights. (due to the termination of his contract, his rights are a part of that contract.)
I am not a lawyer and details of this may be off. This is to the best of my personal understanding of the situation.
EDIT: Also Detroit suffers no penalty to the cap like a buyout because the contract was voided. The money owed and cap hit disappear for both Detroit and Zadina.
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PullHard
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No, both Yzerman and Zadina are awaiting trial and could face jail time
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I keep seeing this violation speculation, but I don't even think it got to that point.... considering they can't send him to GR till the start of the season anyway.
The more likely scenario is that Zadina and his camp straight up requested the termination and the Wings were cool with it because they weren't going to be able to get rid of him without retaining, taking on bad salary, etc. or waiting until next summer to buy him out.
SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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My speculation is you are correct but a legal precedent had to be in place so Zadina told Yzerman he wouldn't report.
Pure speculation on my part, I don't know the wording within the contracts. If mutual termination is allowed then the failure to report is probably a nothing burger.
EDIT; revised my post to reflect what you're saying.
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Sens almost took him over Brady. Jesus what a disaster that would have been. Talk about a “sliding doors” moment.
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For those guys, that's fair. But looking at guys that would likely come in at the $1mil mark, I'm still not sure why a team picks Zadina. He's not a great top 6 option and he doesn't display a lot of the skills and attributes most teams want out of their bottom 6 players...so finding a fit is tough IMHO.
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I don't feel like Nashville has room or incentive to run experiments on reclamation projects. If he wanted to sign a 2-way deal and spend all year in Milwaukee, then that's different. But he probably doesn't?
Spearmint Rhino
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Too bad Yxerman couldn’t turn another top pick prima donna bust into a stud D man, must miss Bergevin being a GM
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SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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People want so badly to hate on Yzerman. I love the salt.
Seachd
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They don’t even need this to do it. Yzerman’s July 1 gave people plenty of ammo.
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It seems like this new habs management is in the business of reclamation projects.
However, there's only so many roster spots to go around, and I don't think there's a chair available. Also, what would you be trying to reclaim? He never got off the ground.
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SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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What ammo?
you mean "lol your contract situation is layered in a way that has money coming off the books every year and you have a pipeline of prospects ready for their ELC and you paid a million too much for Insert player name" That ammo?
Get real, is not even a BB
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I think at this point there may be a team that bites on a minimum or close to minimum one-way deal but even then - I still wouldn’t be shocked if he has to settle for a rehab year in Europe if he isn’t willing to be on a two-way deal.
Again, everybody thinks Zadina should still inherently have value as a cheap reclamation project who was once a very, very high pick…but the simple fact is most teams already have their own cheap, shot in the dark projects. It’s easy to sit here and say team “X” definitely should sign him but after an in-depth view of available roster spots, roles and in-house “projects” - I’m not sure it’s a slam dunk that Zadina ends up on a one-way NHL deal.
Again, everybody thinks Zadina should still inherently have value as a cheap reclamation project who was once a very, very high pick…but the simple fact is most teams already have their own cheap, shot in the dark projects. It’s easy to sit here and say team “X” definitely should sign him but after an in-depth view of available roster spots, roles and in-house “projects” - I’m not sure it’s a slam dunk that Zadina ends up on a one-way NHL deal.
abo9
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No space. There's not a ton of quality in Montreal, but there's quantity. They're not gonna waiver guys like Armia, Gallagher to make space for Zadina.
I'm not as high on Harvey-Pinard as other Habs fans, but I wouldn't even risk waiving him for Zadina.
I really can't see it work in the NHL. Which team has space for him? Chicago maybe?
