Waived: [DET] G Ville Husso waived by the Red Wings (cleared)

[TS Quint]

Stop projecting.

This is the Husso waived by Yzerman thread.

Link to the Sens thread you are posting about how bad the Ulmark signing is.

 

[deca guard]

people ignore the fact that every yzerman signing has been DURING A REBUILD ERA where he did not want to do too good because it would have taken him outta the 'lotto zone' and into a later draft position lessening the chances of hitting on draft pix while also costing important future cap space . obviously he cant say that , but its whats been best for the organization long term instead of signing better ufa to longer terms when detroit has zero chance of challenging just to try making the playoffs . instead he signed lesser players with good attitudes to help team culture , and their contracts expire once the redwings are ready to contend and cap becomes important . these people here ripping yzermans signings ARE NOT BETTER JUDGES OF HOCKEY TALENT THAN STEVE YZERMAN ! like they say 'hes playing 3d chess'

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Wow really bad idea why would the Red Wings do this? Are they insane?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Husso ever claims him shall be disappointed.

And that's not even counting his cap hit

 

[JKG33]

He was a combined like .897 SV% from 21-23. It was definitely not as controversial as your revisionist self-congratulatory post suggests it was

Tell me you didn't watch the Blues without telling me you didn't watch the Blues

 

[MMC]

Wow really bad idea why would the Red Wings do this? Are they insane?

Why is waiving him a bad idea? Hes getting outplayed by Talbot and Lyon

 

[deca guard]

do people really think yzerman didnt realize that chariot-copp-husso-holl-etc werent excellent ???? do people really think yzerman knows that little about hockey players ???? no he knew damn well they werent excellent but he signed them to improve team n culture for now without blowing too much future cap space , like it would have taken for better players , because he needed the cap space to sign the new core guys like seider n ray and more guys in the future ! but know it alls dont realize theres no way yzerman can come out and say that about ufa he just signed . but maintain your smart ass fool attitudes n ego's like you know more about the nhl than yzerman

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Why is waiving him a bad idea? Hes getting outplayed by Talbot and Lyon

I'm not sure. It was a really stupid comment for me to make and I apologize for that.

 

[Hoglander]

do people really think yzerman didnt realize that chariot-copp-husso-holl-etc werent excellent ???? do people really think yzerman knows that little about hockey players ???? no he knew damn well they werent excellent but he signed them to improve team n culture for now without blowing too much future cap space , like it would have taken for better players , because he needed the cap space to sign the new core guys like seider n ray and more guys in the future ! but know it alls dont realize theres no way yzerman can come out and say that about ufa he just signed . but maintain your smart ass fool attitudes n ego's like you know more about the nhl than yzerman

This is straight up coping. NHL gm's get things wrong quite often, and deserve criticism for making boneheaded moves. Stop pretending the guy is perfect- that is what people are actually pointing fun at, and you've completely taken the bait. Yzerman isn't immune to mistakes: he's obviously made some bad moves, it is what it is.

 

[deca guard]

This is straight up coping. NHL gm's get things wrong quite often, and deserve criticism for making boneheaded moves. Stop pretending the guy is perfect- that is what people are actually pointing fun at, and you've completely taken the bait. Yzerman isn't immune to mistakes: he's obviously made some bad moves, it is what it is.

i spelled it all out for you . and should have added the better ufa didnt want to sign on a junk team in the first place , so yzermans choices were limited . and adding imperfect ufa was better for the team today than adding nobody . but if you want to stay on your ego trip thinking you know more about the nhl than yzerman have a blast

 

[Hoglander]

i spelled it all out for you . and should have added the better ufa didnt want to sign on a junk team in the first place , so yzermans choices were limited . and adding imperfect ufa was better for the team today than adding nobody . but if you want to stay on your ego trip thinking you know more about the nhl than yzerman have a blast

My bad. Clearly everything he does is perfect, and nobody should dare question anything he does. Even if the impossible did happen, and he actually did make a mistake, it can just be explained away as people being on ego trips.

You're delusional dude

 

[deca guard]

My bad. Clearly everything he does is perfect, and nobody should dare question anything he does. Even if the impossible did happen, and he actually did make a mistake, it can just be explained away as people being on ego trips.

You're delusional dude

you act like he had a huge array of players to choose from and like there is no cap . like every player wanted to sign with the wings . and like all kinds of the better but not great ufa dont usually get longer term than is ideal for a team , ecspecially ufa on the edge of being beyond prime and thusly not much help when detroits young core arrives . but yzerman had to deal in those terms which left him only able to sign lesser players even though he realized they were lesser ! do you realize the staff of pro hockey players and scouts your thinking like you know better than ? redwings knew copp doesnt bring lots of offense , but they also knew hes a hustling strong two way grinder 100% commited nhler . a guy to build culture and teach kids , plus played at michigan which helps culture / team chemistry . where as all your factoring in is how many points he scores . your in over your head

 

[MMC]

you act like he had a huge array of players to choose from and like there is no cap . like every player wanted to sign with the wings . and like all kinds of the better but not great ufa dont usually get longer term than is ideal for a team , ecspecially ufa on the edge of being beyond prime and thusly not much help when detroits young core arrives . but yzerman had to deal in those terms which left him only able to sign lesser players even though he realized they were lesser ! do you realize the staff of pro hockey players and scouts your thinking like you know better than ? redwings knew copp doesnt bring lots of offense , but they also knew hes a hustling strong two way grinder 100% commited nhler . a guy to build culture and teach kids , plus played at michigan which helps culture / team chemistry . where as all your factoring in is how many points he scores . your in over your head

This is all great but I don’t see how it changes the end result that he ended up with a shitty contract.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Legace actually had a pretty decent career. He was nothing great and he was never what I'd consider a particularly great goalie, but his only really bad season in the NHL was the second to last year of his career.

Husso is a one hit wonder. Only one good or even average or better season in the NHL. His NHL career almost definitely isn't over and he could go on to have more good years later on, but he's closer to Andrew Hammond right now than he is to Manny Legace.

Right or wrong I blame that entire 06 playoff loss to EDM on Legace.

His playoff stats in like every league were BRUTAL

Tell me you didn't watch the Blues without telling me you didn't watch the Blues

Not sure why you’re arguing this.

In 21/22 Husso was undoubtedly the better goalie of the two.

 

[Dotter]

My bad. Clearly everything he does is perfect, and nobody should dare question anything he does. Even if the impossible did happen, and he actually did make a mistake, it can just be explained away as people being on ego trips.

You're delusional dude

Looking at it now in hindsight it was clearly a mistake. But not that big of a deal, and not something that kills their future with Cossa who looks like a beast.

At worst, this cost a multi billionaire owner chump change for a risk that didn't pan out. It hasn't hurt Yzerman's ego or reputation in the slightest.

 

[Hobnobs]

Binnington had the 2nd highest goals saved above expected in the league last year

That's cool. And?

 

[JKG33]

Not sure why you’re arguing this.

In 21/22 Husso was undoubtedly the better goalie of the two.

And then what happened?

Husso blew it in the playoffs, Binnington went in and they looked like contenders, got hurt, and Husso blew it again

 

[SensFactor]

Yzerman gonna be fired. His plan failed.

 

[norrisnick]

Yzerman gonna be fired. His plan failed.

His plan is alive and well in various development leagues around the world. He's just killing time til the kids are ready. I know it seems to bug people for whatever reason, but Yzerman likely has the safest job in the league. He doesn't have to rush anything, so he's not rushing anything. Without lottery luck or top shelf players demanding to play for your franchise, there really aren't any short cuts. Draft and develop. He has drafted and is developing.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Why is waiving him a bad idea? Hes getting outplayed by Talbot and Lyon

Can I be honest and not get in trouble?

 

[RedHawkDown]

people ignore the fact that every yzerman signing has been DURING A REBUILD ERA where he did not want to do too good because it would have taken him outta the 'lotto zone' and into a later draft position lessening the chances of hitting on draft pix while also costing important future cap space . obviously he cant say that , but its whats been best for the organization long term instead of signing better ufa to longer terms when detroit has zero chance of challenging just to try making the playoffs . instead he signed lesser players with good attitudes to help team culture , and their contracts expire once the redwings are ready to contend and cap becomes important . these people here ripping yzermans signings ARE NOT BETTER JUDGES OF HOCKEY TALENT THAN STEVE YZERMAN ! like they say 'hes playing 3d chess'

Im amazed that you genuinely believe this

 

[norrisnick]

Im amazed that you genuinely believe this

You wouldn't be if you were aware of other beliefs held...

 

[nbwingsfan]

And then what happened?

Husso blew it in the playoffs, Binnington went in and they looked like contenders, got hurt, and Husso blew it again

Full season sample > 6 game sample.

Did you even check Binningtons stats the previous two playoffs

 

[MMC]

Can I be honest and not get in trouble?

No promises!

 

[Rcknrollkillnmachine]

As I mentioned with Lankinen and Kähkönen I thought Husso was a lock to be another Finnish starter in the NHL. Woeful but Husso has had injuries.

I reckon he goes back to Europe after this.