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Confirmed with Link: Derek Dorsett to Vancouver for ANA 3rd '14

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SML said:
Thank God. Dorsett is a terrible player, and this is why. Opponent sends out tough guy. Tough guy takes liberties because we don't have anyone who can do anything about it. Dorsett goes out and immediately gets the crap beaten out of him. Opponent tough guy looks that much tougher. The energy guy is supposed to work FOR the team he plays for, not against them. This is why he became a better player in the post season when he wasn't supposed to fight. The guy would serve himself better if he stuck to forechecking hard and playing the body and eased off the fighting. Because he gets wore out like last years gym sneakers every time he drops his gloves.
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Pretty good summary. Good 4th liner should have to fight much with Tostito taking on everyone out west.
 
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Great deal. Dorsett was very overrated during his Ranger tenure. He simply made too much and was too inconsistent to stay on the roster. Much better players available at cheaper prices during FA.
 
bernmeister said:
Thanks.
OK, '15 would likely have a better player for the pick, but now is good too.
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Just because a draft is supposed to be "good" or "deep", it doesn't mean that it applies to the third round. They are really talking about the first 15 picks, maybe the top 20, at most the first round and a couple more picks and that's in an exceptional year. By the time you get into the third round, whether the draft is good or deep is irrelevant.
 
Beacon said:
Just because a draft is supposed to be "good" or "deep", it doesn't mean that it applies to the third round. They are really talking about the first 15 picks, maybe the top 20, at most the first round and a couple more picks and that's in an exceptional year. By the time you get into the third round, whether the draft is good or deep is irrelevant.
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Id like them to draft the next Brian Boyle at or after that point, you know, once in a while.
 
Now lets just hope the pick is good, because our Gaborik return is looking like ass right now.
 
surf said:
Maybe Haley finally gets a chance? He would be cheap enough
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UFA and he's gone. I would've liked to seen him get a chance, but he isn't an AV type of player. Would say he has a legit shot at an NHL spot on a weaker team. If Haley could win draws and not just take them, and kill penalities (which he can) he would be a very valuable NHLer. I see a team like FLA giving him a shot, or a team like CLB on a 4th line if they need him. Guy can do some damage with thundering hits. Hits like Torres.
 
Eh. Liked Dorsett. Seems like a cap casualty to me.

REALLY need to re-sign D. Moore now. For the love of god.
 
Zamboner said:
It's turned into Gabby for Brassard straight up. Dorsett is gone, and John Moore is a disaster.
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First of all, Brassard had been excellent for this team, especially in the playoffs. But beyond that, I'd say your evaluation of Moore is a bit shortsighted - he's got great physical tools and is still very young. And Dorsett didn't go for nothing, we have a 3rd round pick coming tomorrow for him.

Still on board with that trade, especially given Gabby's injury issues and inconsistent play.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
First of all, Brassard had been excellent for this team, especially in the playoffs. But beyond that, I'd say your evaluation of Moore is a bit shortsighted - he's got great physical tools and is still very young. And Dorsett didn't go for nothing, we have a 3rd round pick coming tomorrow for him.

Still on board with that trade, especially given Gabby's injury issues and inconsistent play.
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Not only what we have now, but I don't think you can erase the contributions Dorsett made for us while a Ranger. We got some great play, he completed the best fourth line I've seen on a Rangers' team, and he helped us get to the final.
 
TheDirtyH said:
Not only what we have now, but I don't think you can erase the contributions Dorsett made for us while a Ranger. We got some great play, he completed the best fourth line I've seen on a Rangers' team, and he helped us get to the final.
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I think he was a bit of a passenger.

And, worst of all, I think Dorsett was a dumb player.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
First of all, Brassard had been excellent for this team, especially in the playoffs. But beyond that, I'd say your evaluation of Moore is a bit shortsighted - he's got great physical tools and is still very young. And Dorsett didn't go for nothing, we have a 3rd round pick coming tomorrow for him.

Still on board with that trade, especially given Gabby's injury issues and inconsistent play.
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I like Brassard, but he is at least as inconsistent as Gaborik, probably even more so. Also he has not, and probably will not, ever reach Gaborik's offensive ceiling. Gaborik for Brassard straight up has been pretty much what the trade has been thus far. Dorsett was an often injured 4th liner. John Moore was a bottom paired D-Man/occasional healthy scratch victim. Brassard has been the only one that has come close to working out. So far, it's been a straight up deal. And that would/should be considered a terrible trade for the Rangers.

But you're right, it's not over yet. Maybe this 3rd round pick turns into something. There's a 6th round pick too, I think we got from the trade. I'm hopeful one of those picks turns into something. I think the Rangers are above average in picks out of the first round.

As for the John Moore part of the deal, who is still here. John Moore is fast. That is his single tool. That is his single skill. He has a lower hockey IQ than Del Zotto, so I don't see him developing much more. I thought Raffy Diaz looked better than him every time he was allowed in the line up. Those are words that should never be spoken. John Moore is best case scenario a bottom pair defenseman, and probably better suited as a spare part.

4th liner grinder who is gone, and a bottom pair/7th D man to go along with Brassard, so far, is a terrible return for Marian Gaborik.
 
Zamboner said:
I like Brassard, but he is as at least as inconsistent as Gaborik, probably even more so. Also he has not, and probably will not, ever reach Gaborik's offensive ceiling. Gaborik for Brassard straight up has been pretty much what the trade has been thus far. Dorsett was an often injured 4th liner. John Moore was a bottom paired D-Man/occasional healthy scratch victim. Brassard has been the only one that has come close to working out. So far, it's been a straight up deal. And that would/should be considered a terrible trade for the Rangers.

But you're right, it's not over yet. Maybe this 3rd round pick turns into something. There's a 6th round pick too, I think we got from the trade. I'm hopeful one of those picks turns into something. I think the Rangers are above average in picks out of the first round.

As for the John Moore part of the deal, who is still here. John Moore is fast. That is his single tool. That is his single skill. He has a lower hockey IQ than Del Zotto, so I don't see him developing much more. I thought Raffy Diaz looked better than him every time he was allowed in the line up. Those are words that should never be spoken. John Moore is best case scenario a bottom pair defenseman, and probably better suited as a spare part.

4th liner grinder who is gone, and a bottom pair/7th D man to go along with Brassard, so far, is a terrible return for Marian Gaborik.
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This is so wrong I can't even begin to explain why.
 
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