you like to live right on the edge ehIf dahlin is picked (luck) then trade Ceci keep karl
Tuna said that "Melnyck cheaped out not ponying up for Methot in expansion" ......... it was confusing to me to say the least.
The team has imo sent mixed messages.
And some people hear or read “Whatever gets said, the belief is the Ottawa Senators want to try to make this happen and Erik Karlsson wants it to happen, and they have been grinding away in the last two or three days to see if they can,” Friedman said (source) and spin it to mean "the Sens aren't going to trade Erik because nobody in management has ever lied ever in the history of the world ever."Statements made by team officials can be spun in more than one way.
Some people hear or read “When we can offer Erik a contract on July 1st, we will do so. I hope this clarifies things. We don’t want to get into specifics on too many players but we think it’s important that we need to mention that.” and spin it to mean "we're trading Erik at the draft".
I guess, but that still leaves us really thin on the right side. Ideal world Ceci should be slotted as a 3 or 4 Dman, heck maybe even a 5 on a team with great D depth, but we're using him as a shutdown 2. If we get Dahlin and Chabot continues to progress, we could actually see Ceci slotted closer to where he belongs very soon.If dahlin is picked (luck) then trade Ceci keep karl
Statements made by team officials can be spun in more than one way.
Some people hear or read “When we can offer Erik a contract on July 1st, we will do so. I hope this clarifies things. We don’t want to get into specifics on too many players but we think it’s important that we need to mention that.” and spin it to mean "we're trading Erik at the draft".
I dont really see why we need to move Ceci ,even if we gain Dahlin.....If dahlin is picked (luck) then trade Ceci keep karl
Help afford Karlsson?I dont really see why we need to move Ceci ,even if we gain Dahlin.....
Like I said earlier I don't want to get into a semantic argument about the definition of superstar. I gave mine and I'll leave it at that.
Whatever your definition is, which two superstars are you suggesting the sens sign for 8 million each rather than sign Karlsson and Smith?
no... just not everyone thinks dorions word on this matter is gold especially with EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN SAIDStatements made by team officials can be spun in more than one way.
Some people hear or read “When we can offer Erik a contract on July 1st, we will do so. I hope this clarifies things. We don’t want to get into specifics on too many players but we think it’s important that we need to mention that.” and spin it to mean "we're trading Erik at the draft".
Help afford Karlsson?
EM ,I think needs to forgo the fixed player budget..And just accept we may have to carry some of the dead money into next season..While resigning our key playersBob McKenzie on whether Karlsson will be with Ottawa in 18-19. April 9th, TSN 1200.
"Your guess is as good as mine (...) Obviously Ottawa fans have a vested interest in guessing he's coming back, and I understand that, but boy oh boy, I'm not saying it can't happen, because it could, but I'll tell you what, there are a lot of moving parts to him coming back, a lot of things have to fall into place. I'm not sure that they will, but I can't rule it out either."
What "moving parts" could he be referring to?
My Guesses
-The draft lottery (Whether the Senators do or do not get the top pick? Whether a team willing to acquire Karlsson gets one of the top picks that they can use in that trade?)
-Whether the Senators can find an economical way to dump Ryan's contract on a team willing to accept cap dumps for assets like VAN or VGK. I don't think the team can compete with Karlsson, Duchene, Stone, and their other arbitration eligible RFAs/UFAs all getting raises along with the dead money on the books and a limiting player salary budget. Maybe this sentiment is shared by management, meaning a Karlsson extension only gets done if we can find a way to improve our salary situation.
-Whether the trade offers are strong at the draft. I don't think the team is gonna just trade Karl for the best offer if the best offer is terrible. (Keeping in mind, that no offer will give us the same value Karlsson brings, but there's probably a certain value that has to be reached where the trade can be justified)
I don't think Karlsson's willingness to stay factors in as a moving part, unless behind the scenes Karlsson has stated he won't re-sign here, which is not something we've heard. I am guessing, the team already has a good idea what it'd take to sign Karlsson and if he is willing to stay. (Before this can of worms is opened again, I am not suggesting tampering)
no... just not everyone thinks dorions word on this matter is gold especially with EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN SAID
We dont need to move anybody for us to resign EK..We just need an owner that is ready to spend a little now to gain laterHelp afford Karlsson?
Well, to this point our budget has risen each year, and we have signed or extended every single core player we have wanted to keep, so there is precedent here to expect further signings.
I think the player expenditures concerns are secondary to scouting and internal team expenditures, but it's not like there's no evidence to support this theory. Turris was moved for contract issues. Zibanejad was moved for a more cost-controlled asset. We've bought draft picks and accepted to send a draft pick in exchange for salary retention. The cheap owner finds ways to cut costs that are not in the best interests of the team's asset management.And each time they re-signed a "core" player, the people who speculated that said player(s) were going to be traded, because the "cheap owner" was not going to pay up for those "core" players.
The two players we need to resign that count against next seasons cap are Ceci and Stone,the other two in Duchene and EK count against the following ...We will have more than enough room to resign everyone,ditto money
I meant everything that has been said on this matter...What has Dorion said, in the past, that leads you to think he is deliberately lying to STHs?
Well, to this point our budget has risen each year, and we have signed or extended every single core player we have wanted to keep, so there is precedent here to expect further signings.