LeBrun: DeBrincat will most likely be traded, agent has submitted list of preferred destinations
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Gocanes0506
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Say vegas is interested, who are they moving with Martinez to make it happen? Marchessault? Karlsson?
Canes would likely be interested in absorbing the vegas contracts and sending pieces to Ottawa to make it happen.
Canes would likely be interested in absorbing the vegas contracts and sending pieces to Ottawa to make it happen.
Ottawa is pretty set at center.
Likely want a 2/3 RW or 2/3 RHD back. Or a goalie upgrade.
We we also realize the contract situation limits the return. I'd be just as happy hanging on, see where we are at TDL. At worst we keep him for a playoff run, then use the cap space to sign someone that fits the bill listed above.
Depends what it sounds like behind the closed doors. If he absolutely don't want to sign then I think we move on asap. If he is not sure yet your proposal makes sense but always though loosing a good player for nothing..
Every player on an expiring contract is lost for nothing some one eats it.
But my point is do not dismiss the value to this team of making the playoffs.
And also do not dismiss the value of cap space. Columbus just added two top 4 D men for 22nd overall and a second and third, largely scraps, just for the simple reason they had the cap space. Garland, a decent player, is basically available for free due to Vancouvers salary cap position. Bjorkstrand was practically given away due to cap restrictions last year. There are a lot of good players if you have the money. And the problem is teams do not have the money.
spockBokk
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By taking him to arbitration to force a contract that takes him straight to ufa is certainly something. Essentially, the Senators are making him into a 1yr rental for whoever ends up trading for him.
Seems like working out a sign and trade would be in everyone’s best interest, but what do I know. Strongarming DeBrincat inti a 1yr deal on a team he doesn’t want to play for seems counterproductive. But maybe it’s a negotiating tactic. If it is, it’s a horrible one, at least from my POV
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Help someone who doesn't know much about it...
Why are they trading DeBrincat? Does he just not want to be there?
Why are they trading DeBrincat? Does he just not want to be there?
All options are still open after you file for arbitration, the only thing filing does is stops him from taking his 9M qualifying offer and walking out the door on that. So if he wants to take the 1 year deal and march himself to free agency then at least the Sens can get him at a lower rate. He could still sign long term or get traded before the arbitration date.
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Right, but now there’s a deadline for a 1yr deal or bust. All options are still on the table up until the arb date, sure. But it seems to me, it’d be more beneficial in terms of trade value to keep working with the player on the sign and trade other than forcing his hand.
Granted, the Sens would have to qualify him at $9M to keep his rights and the player could just accept that QO and walk to ufa too.
Lots of variables here.
There is a deadline on the validity of qualifying offers too, and its very likely that he would have made his own decision before that offer expired.
There was always a short deadline on this.
I will say though if it does go to arbitration Dorion will burn his relationship with the player and there will be 0 chance of another contract.
Still I am in favor of this, anything to prevent him from just taking the 9M 1 year deal and saying see ya.
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Not willing to sign longterm, at least not at a $$$ amount that we can stomach.
I don't think its that he doesnt want to be there as much as him not being ready to commit the next 8yrs of his career to a city & country he's lived in for 1yr.
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I don't know much about it, but I imagine the plan is to trade him to a team that will extend him before the arbitration meeting ever happens. If that doesn't happen, a 7.65 mil Cat is the back-up plan.
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This is bunk. He's about to commit 8-9 years to a city he's never lived in. It's very specific to Ottawa and/or the Senators.
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Well he can't be traded until January 1st, but it's very unlikely it ever gets to arbitration. Flames did the same thing with Tkachuk last year.
As for Cat, his preferred list is apparently just Detroit and a bunch of low-tax states, so there's no way he's signing here.
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Wings 17th overall straight up for DeBrincat. Thats the best Dorion can hope for.
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Especially with Andlauers golden boy Staois creeping in the background.
Except Matthews literally said he wants to re-sign in Toronto.
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I agree that if they want to trade him by signing him to the one-year contract via arbitration, its only going to be of interest to a potential trading partner that is going for it this upcoming season that has strong playoff aspirations.
I suppose they could be thinking that they could afford him or give him more $s when the cap goes up for the 2024-25 season.
But, I really have to wonder if Debrincat is seeking a big payday or wanting to play in the U.S., or both of those two things.
Whether Matthews bolts or signs a $14 m or greater contract to remain in Toronto, either option are not totally ideal or without ramifications.
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Yeah, that’s why all the teams he prefers are in the States. Talking out of your ass mate.
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