Confirmed with Link: DeBrincat signs for 4 year, $7.875 per year extension)

[Snuggs]

Czarnik > Kane


Kubalik doesn't carry the puck at all, so he really needs playmakers on his line. I hope he sucks shit in OTT because they're division rivals. I'm not gonna be attached to a player just because he played for the Wings for a year. Nobody's cheering for Stecher, Nemeth or any of the other players that are gone.

It's money. Kubalik cheaper so Norris thinks he's better. You should know that guy's tune by now.

Kubalik was here what? A Year? Weird player to get attached to.

 

[norrisnick]

It's money. Kubalik cheaper so Norris thinks he's better. You should know that guy's tune by now.

Kubalik was here what? A Year? Weird player to get attached to.

It's so bizarre that you think that's my schtick.

When Kubalik was on the top line to start last season he was solidly outplaying DeBrincat in Ottawa for the first 2-3mo of the season. Kubalik went on a cold spell and got yeeted out of the top 6 for most of the rest of the season for reasons unknown.

Who knew, besides DBC, that he wasn't really trying in Ottawa and would actually give a shit here?

If people earn it, I support their salaries more than most around here. I had Larkin pegged for a higher salary last year and likely am on the higher end for Mo and Ray this year.

The key you seem to be missing, in a cap world, is that in situations where level of play is close salary is important. Which is why a mediocre middle 6 winger on a $5M salary for three years that a team is desperate to be rid of doesn't excite me as much as it does you. Not when we have a bunch of forwards in GR that need to be filtered through.

 

[SirloinUB]

I was a little skeptical of trading a 1st + for Debrincat. Glad to see he is proving me wrong.

 

[19 for president]

I have been impressed by DBCs overall offensive game. He is an underrated passer. He pairs really nicely with Larkin and doesn't look weak out there despite being on the smaller side. With that said I expect all goal scorers to be streaky. I just hope its more in the 2-5 game variety than 5-10, when it eventually happens.

 

[Frk It]

It's so bizarre that you think that's my schtick.

When Kubalik was on the top line to start last season he was solidly outplaying DeBrincat in Ottawa for the first 2-3mo of the season. Kubalik went on a cold spell and got yeeted out of the top 6 for most of the rest of the season for reasons unknown.

Who knew, besides DBC, that he wasn't really trying in Ottawa and would actually give a shit here?

If people earn it, I support their salaries more than most around here. I had Larkin pegged for a higher salary last year and likely am on the higher end for Mo and Ray this year.

The key you seem to be missing, in a cap world, is that in situations where level of play is close salary is important. Which is why a mediocre middle 6 winger on a $5M salary for three years that a team is desperate to be rid of doesn't excite me as much as it does you. Not when we have a bunch of forwards in GR that need to be filtered through.

I can’t say I was wrong about DeBrincat as a player so I’m just going to say he had “compete issues”.

Got it.

 

[norrisnick]

I can’t say I was wrong about DeBrincat as a player so I’m just going to say he had “compete issues”.

Got it.

That's what he said. He got a bit lazy.

I thought he was trying and just not that good.

 

[jkutswings]

I can’t say I was wrong about DeBrincat as a player so I’m just going to say he had “compete issues”.

Got it.

I like players that compete much harder for Detroit than for other teams.

Hopefully Pettersson has compete issues with Vancouver before the deadline.

 

[ricky0034]

a 25 year old that has produced at a 40-50 goal pace in 3 of the past 5 seasons doing well really shouldn't be surprising to anyone but people invented this narrative in their heads that he was only ever any good because of Kane

 

[Frk It]

I like players that compete much harder for Detroit than for other teams.

Hopefully Pettersson has compete issues with Vancouver before the deadline.

I don’t think a player can be as successful as DeBrincat at his size and with his skating if they don’t compete. I don’t think it’s ever been an issue for him. I think he was slightly less effective on Ottawa last year just due to chemistry and being in a new team. But the guy still scored 27 goals last year and generated chances like he always does.

 

[jkutswings]

a 25 year old that has produced at a 40-50 goal pace in 3 of the past 5 seasons doing well really shouldn't be surprising to anyone but people invented this narrative in their heads that he was only ever any good because of Kane

He's certainly not a perfect player. But a good chunk of the narrative likely started with Sens fans who would rather overstate a guy's shortcomings than admit how poorly their management handled the situation.

Debrincat will likely have some hot and cold streaks. He may even have stretches in the playoffs that don't go well. But he's a very talented forward that brings a much needed skill set, and the trade has every indication of being a complete slam dunk for Detroit.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Hard not to like what we've seen so far, but I am holding back serious praise until I see how he plays Sunday vs his former team. Should be as close to a playoff vibe to that game as you're going to get in October. With the Sens likely targeting him, I am curious to see if he elevates his game or wilts like the rest of the team did last season against these Senators.
Will we see Aston-Reese?

 

[norrisnick]

a 25 year old that has produced at a 40-50 goal pace in 3 of the past 5 seasons doing well really shouldn't be surprising to anyone but people invented this narrative in their heads that he was only ever any good because of Kane

Pretty compelling narrative when all 3 were on a team with Kane and the one without was a sub-30 and the most recent data point.

What is pretty interesting is the Larkin isn't a 1C narrative...

 

[ricky0034]

Pretty compelling narrative when all 3 were on a team with Kane and the one without was a sub-30 and the most recent data point.

What is pretty interesting is the Larkin isn't a 1C narrative...

maybe if you ignore how he mostly didn't even play with Kane at even strength in the first of them and in the other two Kane only outscored him by like 10-15 points with like 20 point gaps between DeBrincat and 3rd on the team in scoring

 

[RedWingzz]

Interesting matchup on saturday, when Red Wings team going to Ottawa.

So much to prove from last year, also THE GAME of Atlantic Division lead.

DeBrincat trade... Kubalik. So many tensions. Really waiting for that.

I'll be there, it's gonna be a good one! Hopefully they show up in Ottawa this year, that was a tough back to back to attend last season. Need a little revenge here.

 

[raymond23]

We've added two very capable off-wing scoring threats with Debrincat and Sprong

Something we've been lacking forever (especially right handed versions)

Their ability to be a threat from distance, find soft spots without the puck, and move east-west is a breath of fresh air. They stretch the defense and allow for way more room in the middle of the ice

It's a match made in heaven for Larkin. He's getting 90+ points if he stays healthy

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don’t think a player can be as successful as DeBrincat at his size and with his skating if they don’t compete. I don’t think it’s ever been an issue for him. I think he was slightly less effective on Ottawa last year just due to chemistry and being in a new team. But the guy still scored 27 goals last year and generated chances like he always does.

DeBrincat wasn’t lazy last year. And DeBrincat did try last season. Fans saying otherwise are using these excuses as coping mechanisms.

Sometimes a player isn’t the best fit for the team. And sometimes (often) a star playing in a diminished role scores less. The guy had 66 points with a rookie center that scored about half as many points. That ain’t bad.

 

[dj4aces]

a 25 year old that has produced at a 40-50 goal pace in 3 of the past 5 seasons doing well really shouldn't be surprising to anyone but people invented this narrative in their heads that he was only ever any good because of Kane

I agree... but to be fair, he produced at a 40+ goal pace previously with Kane. Until he admitted it a couple months back, no one even knew he "got lazy" in OTT. A number of folks in OTT just assumed DeBrincat just wasn't as good as his stats seemed to indicate, while others assumed he needed Kane in order to be any good.

As we can see, at least so far, those folks were wrong. He doesn't need Kane, and personally speaking, I don't want him. Larkin is an incredible linemate for DeBrincat, and I think they'll only get better from here.

 

[Gniwder]

Kubalik went on a cold spell and got yeeted out of the top 6 for most of the rest of the season for reasons unknown.

LOL, you just stated why he got dropped. He doesn't carry the puck or play well defensively, so if he's not scoring he's completely worthless. The other factor was that opponents caught on to the back door play the Wings were running early season. I don't understand why they had to abandon it completely though, they just need to mix in other set plays instead of trying the same play every game.

a 25 year old that has produced at a 40-50 goal pace in 3 of the past 5 seasons doing well really shouldn't be surprising to anyone but people invented this narrative in their heads that he was only ever any good because of Kane

Czarnik > Kane

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

DeBrincat wasn’t really used as a primary scoring option in Ottawa, the Sens clearly ran things through their home grown guys like Stutzle and Tkachuk. Especially when it was looking like he wouldn’t be signing with the team long term.

Now Cat gets to be “the guy” on his hometown team. Undisputed top line top PP deployment and every opportunity to produce. Barring injury he’s going to have a career year without a doubt.

 

[Detroit Knights]

DeBrincat wasn’t really used as a primary scoring option in Ottawa, the Sens clearly ran things through their home grown guys like Stutzle and Tkachuk. Especially when it was looking like he wouldn’t be signing with the team long term.

Now Cat gets to be “the guy” on his hometown team. Undisputed top line top PP deployment and every opportunity to produce. Barring injury he’s going to have a career year without a doubt.

multiple career years.

I said it before the last season ended. He has played his absolute best hockey when he played against Detroit, especially in Detroit. Now he gets to do it 41 times a year. After watching our home games, I see him getting 30 goals minimum in his home games this season and after this year when he settles in, itll probably drop to 20-25 at home.

He loves playing at home, he is exactly who we want all michigan born players to be while playing for detroit (larkin too). They get to live out the dream of every peewee/mite league kid wants to do: wear that winged wheel on the chest while your last name is unironically on that back.

 

[newfy]

multiple career years.

I said it before the last season ended. He has played his absolute best hockey when he played against Detroit, especially in Detroit. Now he gets to do it 41 times a year. After watching our home games, I see him getting 30 goals minimum in his home games this season and after this year when he settles in, itll probably drop to 20-25 at home.

He loves playing at home, he is exactly who we want all michigan born players to be while playing for detroit (larkin too). They get to live out the dream of every peewee/mite league kid wants to do: wear that winged wheel on the chest while your last name is unironically on that back.

I like the optimism but to say multiple career years for a guy who has hit 40 goals multiple times already is kinda bold. Since 94-95 only Zetterberg has had one season that tops Debrincats season high of 41.

He definitely can do it and hes hitting his prime. But as much as I like Larkin, hes not prime Kane either. If he gets back to around his career bests though, the trade and contract were a complete steal anyways

 

[Detroit Knights]

I like the optimism but to say multiple career years for a guy who has hit 40 goals multiple times already is kinda bold. Since 94-95 only Zetterberg has had one season that tops Debrincats season high of 41.

He definitely can do it and hes hitting his prime. But as much as I like Larkin, hes not prime Kane either. If he gets back to around his career bests though, the trade and contract were a complete steal anyways

not just goals though. he can get assists too...most assists hes gotten was 39, of which was last year. His most with hawks was 37. Getting 45-50 goals this year (good possibility) while adding 40-50 assists (again, good possibility because of PP1 and top line) that would absolutely be a career year and multiple year possibility. When other top UIFA see the success of wings and being able to play with DBC, that'll only increase the point production. Who knows...maybe elias lindholm becomes available and doesn't resign with calgary. (obviously would like pettersson more i think that could have gone without being said...then again) Lindholm has been an assist machine so far this year and has played well with other top linemates...just spit ballin here.

Say what you want about larkin or whoever is on the other wing, dbc can also feed the puck like the best of them and he now has multiple players to pass too instead of a rookie pinto and batherson.

 

[Gniwder]

I like the optimism but to say multiple career years for a guy who has hit 40 goals multiple times already is kinda bold. Since 94-95 only Zetterberg has had one season that tops Debrincats season high of 41.

He definitely can do it and hes hitting his prime. But as much as I like Larkin, hes not prime Kane either. If he gets back to around his career bests though, the trade and contract were a complete steal anyways

He's on pace to go over 100 GOALS. 6 games in and he's already 1/5 of the way to 40.

Barring injury to him or DBoss, I'd say 40 is the LOW end of the projection now. He's nailing the top corner almost every shot like it's automatic. It's astounding so far.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Wasn’t a HUGE fan. Always thought the trade was a steal though and he’s been really destroying it these 6 games

 

[Oddbob]

I don't think his lower totals last year were lack of effort or not wanting to be in Ottawa. He was playing with Pinto and Batherson who are nothing special instead of playing with Giroux and Tkachuk and surprise surprise his stats were lower. He had 66 pts or whatever so that is pretty good for a crappy, lazy, doesn't want to be there performer. Wish we got that level from Leddy during his 2/3rds of a year here. Also, would make zero sense for any young player in a contract year to purposely play not to potential when his very near future contract heavily depends on current production.