Itcwas a poor effort by too many of the Hawks..As I said...the old mantra about a team not having it after coming home for 1st game after a long road trip was exactly what we saw..A NO LO COMPETERE GAME ...
GDT: Deadwings @ Hawks, 6 Nov 2024, 7 PM CT
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GIADF
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TLEH
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Bedard just doesn't skate well enough to generate his own offense consistently, its a lot of playing off his teammates. I know he said he worked on skating in the offseason, need to see more improvements in that area if he really wants to dominate the league.
Overrated isn't the word though.
Overrated isn't the word though.
Backyard Hockey
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So it's not just the Bears who turns everything to poop, so does the Hawks.
Some of the Bedard takes are going to look foolish in the not-so-distant future.
Some of the Bedard takes are going to look foolish in the not-so-distant future.
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Speed is a big thing. I also think he needs to focus on his one-timer instead of always having to corral the puck and use his wrister to get a sog.
BobbyJet
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Carrying the puck in control at top speed is a special talent that precious few players can do with any consistency. To date, Bedard has not shown he is one of them.
Bedard's top speed is fine but he really lacks explosiveness especially from a standstill
Too many times Ive seen a turnover come his way at the defensive blue line with the opportunity for an odd man rush and the back checker just smothers him before he can get going
Too many times Ive seen a turnover come his way at the defensive blue line with the opportunity for an odd man rush and the back checker just smothers him before he can get going
Time to give up on a 19 year old point per game player for sure
I gotta stop coming to this board so much
I gotta stop coming to this board so much
TLEH
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Can't discuss a player around here I guess. Overrated is a bit much but zero people in here said they're giving up. Zero lol. He's a great player.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Well, there's a choice. One can gloss over what they see on the ice, or call it like they see it. It doesn't necessarily mean that one believes Bedard will never live up to the hype but it is where he is at 19 years old on a bad team and with little support.
TLEH
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Point taken but there's discussing and there's kvetching. Your post about Bedard's skating? Not a problem. Several of the other posts are not nearly as thoughtful or specific. Call it a personal failing but it makes the threads a drag.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
MacKinnon is one of the best I’ve ever seen do that
What makes someone great or generational or whatever term you wish, is consistency. How many games did McDavid not have a point last season? I always feel he can do something every game, every shift. I don't get that sense with Bedard. And of course, his many games without a point proves it. No, I'm not asking for McDavid prowess. But right now, CB is not even close and frankly I would not even think about putting him on Team Canada for the 4 Nations. He may get the nod for PR purposes but not because he has earned it.
Obviously, he can become great. But maybe a victim of too much expectation too early.
Obviously, he can become great. But maybe a victim of too much expectation too early.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Another rope-a dope? Hope so.
The jury is still out on KD but it seems to me that we may have a similar situation to the days of Stan and Q. Back then Q got all the criticism early when the team floundered, not Stan ... now Luke Richardson is in that same boat and rarely do we hear anything bad about KD. (I reckon that will change however after his questionable off-season acquisitions).
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if i could quibble with the analogy, luke richardson has a lot to prove before the comparison to q makes sense, and kd is looking at basically the reverse job stanbo was looking at. rather than building around that 2010's core he was tasked with tearing it down and building a new one from scraps. the jury is still out on both, and so far this season hasn't returned obviously encouraging results regarding either.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Quite true. My point is that KD has proven nothing since taking over as Hawks GM.
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Hard to believe that Oilers fans once upon a time gave McDavid shit for not being generational at Bedard’s age. We’ll all have a good laugh about it in a few years.
It’ll probably be someone like Moore or Korch and be unpopular, but there’s a lot of picks and they can’t all make it. Lev is probably here next year, and bottom 6 guys like Dach and Savoie are already pretty close. Plus the top 5 pick hopefully being Martone. Next year, they hand it over to the kids and see who fits in the future plans and who they jettison.
As hard as I am on management, I get that right now, the majority of the team as it stands won’t be here during the competing years. My prediction though is a trade being made during the offseason for a top 6 forward around Vlasic’s age to kick the rebuild into high gear.
It’ll probably be someone like Moore or Korch and be unpopular, but there’s a lot of picks and they can’t all make it. Lev is probably here next year, and bottom 6 guys like Dach and Savoie are already pretty close. Plus the top 5 pick hopefully being Martone. Next year, they hand it over to the kids and see who fits in the future plans and who they jettison.
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This is a complete lie.
Mcdavid won the hart his second year. There was zero, I mean zero questions the guy wasn't generational and Oiler fans sure as shit didn't think that.
Good lord.....
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This is true, but if anybody is looking for a scapegoat the finger point starts at Davidson and doesn't move an inch.
Richardson can only play what his GM gets him. He tough loved Reichel into becoming a more complete player and so far its working out.
Does he play seth alot? Sure, but seriously who else can he put out there?
He has a team full of scrubs, players who would be sitting in the press box come playoff time, and overpaid FA signings that so far look more like they would rather cash a cheque then compete.
Bedard isn't a generational talent that can carry a team. Lemiuex or Gretzky he isnt. He isn't even Mike Bossy. You can't blame Richardson for Davidsons horrible evaluation of talent.
Korchinski looks like garbage in Rockford, Nazar is a ppg player in the A and might be a decent third liner in the pros, Moore, Rinzel, nobody knows what they will amount to but if the current state of the trash Davidson has drafted is any indication they will be busts.
Last game when Donato had a wide open Bedard yet chose to shoot the puck himself is this year in a nutshell. This team doesn't move forward without an actual GM at the helm.
Let´s be honest here. Bedard ain´t Crosby or McDavid kind of talent even he had generational junior career. But he´ll be very good or special player, his prime is probably few years away from now. And by then Hawks should be a lot better team overall. Be patient!
And this is GM´s fault..like how?
And this is GM´s fault..like how?
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Well the GM signed TT to play with him, which so far hasn’t been a good move, so Bedard is stuck playing with a bottom 6 guy on the top line in Donato. And I like the guy, but he’s not a top 6 player.
So by his construction of the roster and it not working so far….. Well, that’s on KD.
Especially doesn’t look great when you see Bedard out there needing a decent playmaker to open the ice or retrieve a puck. Adding someone who can do that who is a legit top 6 option would unleash so much potential of his.
