Davidson's Performance Evaluation Thread (read OP)

[Hawkaholic]

And yet we just gave away #4 + #45 and a young RD

Doesn't sound like management believes they are still rebuilding

And got a way better Dman back who is the same age. You can make moves and still be rebuilding, I know, hard concept for you to get.

 

[AmericanDream]

And yet we just gave away #4 + #45 and a young RD

Doesn't sound like management believes they are still rebuilding

The guy we just picked up is a 4th overall pick and the same age as the "young RD" we just dealt.

 

[MHO]

Forget the whole trade for a second. And forget contracts too. I'm just curious from a hockey standpoint what you guys think. If we assume McKenna, Stenberg, and Reid go 1,2,3, would you guys rather have Carels or Malhotra than Byram?

 

[bwanajamba]

Forget the whole trade for a second. And forget contracts too. I'm just curious from a hockey standpoint what you guys think. If we assume McKenna, Stenberg, and Reid go 1,2,3, would you guys rather have Carels or Malhotra than Byram?

Pure hockey standpoint he's obviously an immediate upgrade but you can't assess this kind of trade that way. It really depends what the extension comes in at. If it's reasonable then I'd take Byram but still not love adding on to get him. If it's a bad contract that threatens the future health of the cap sheet I'd probably rather have the younger guy with more team control.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Yeah, I'm out.

The Byram trade is the kind of perfect storm of overpayment, poor talent evaluation, and complete lack of understanding of where your team stands that it completely undermines any faith in the rebuild going forward.

I was behind KD because he was showing patience and commitment to a plan. Even if I didn't agree with particular choices like Lev over Demidov, they still fell within the bounds of the long-term vision for this build.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Yeah, I'm out.

You were a canes fan even before this trade.

The Byram trade is the kind of perfect storm of overpayment, poor talent evaluation, and complete lack of understanding of where your team stands that it completely undermines any faith in the rebuild going forward.

By adding a 25 year old?

I was behind KD because he was showing patience and commitment to a plan.

No you weren’t lmfao you were marking out for every other team but this one.

Even if I didn't agree with particular choices like Lev over Demidov, they still fell within the bounds of the long-term vision for this build.

You were glazing teams that only drafted forwards LeMao

 

[CallMeShaft]

Forget the whole trade for a second. And forget contracts too. I'm just curious from a hockey standpoint what you guys think. If we assume McKenna, Stenberg, and Reid go 1,2,3, would you guys rather have Carels or Malhotra than Byram?

I would've gone Malhotra. Love me a potential 2-way power forward pivot and I feel we need more forward help rather than help on defense.

Carels I could see becoming something similar to Byram, more D, less O, but similar caliber of player.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Forget the whole trade for a second. And forget contracts too. I'm just curious from a hockey standpoint what you guys think. If we assume McKenna, Stenberg, and Reid go 1,2,3, would you guys rather have Carels or Malhotra than Byram?

Carels then Malhotra, both over Byram

 

[Behn Wilson]

We are stuck w him but after this move I have completely lost faith in Davidson.

 

[Hawkaholic]

We all know how Jaeger evaluates talent. Excel.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

We all know how Jaeger evaluates talent. Excel.

got Celebrini right fwiw

 

[Toews2Bickell]

mainboard thread about KD gotta be some of the dumbest shit posted about Hawks in a bit...you'd think he sold everything for Byram...the #1 pipeline, the 3 1sts in 27....Frondell...etc etc...just a brutal thread

 

[HeisenBaez]

We are stuck w him but after this move I have completely lost faith in Davidson.

The same Davidson who got Spencer Knight AND a FRP for Seth Jones and you lost faith in him because he made a trade you did not like.

Seriously?

 

[Hawkaholic]

got Celebrini right fwiw

Not sure what you mean?

 

[Wally1112pac]

mainboard thread about KD gotta be some of the dumbest shit posted about Hawks in a bit...you'd think he sold everything for Byram...the #1 pipeline, the 3 1sts in 27....Frondell...etc etc...just a brutal thread

You did yourself for reading that poison.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

You did yourself for reading that poison.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

People do realize GMs will not be announcing what moves they’re working on or looking into right? Davidson could do something massive tomorrow and he won’t be saying shit.

They just love Kantserov a lot and want him to know it.

 

[ColbyChaos]

mainboard thread about KD gotta be some of the dumbest shit posted about Hawks in a bit...you'd think he sold everything for Byram...the #1 pipeline, the 3 1sts in 27....Frondell...etc etc...just a brutal thread

Highest collection of NPC ass takes I’ve seen in a while

 

[hockeydoug]

Now that KK is done in Chicago, can we put some of these old amateur scouts' pelts on the wall?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Now that KK is done in Chicago, can we put some of these old amateur scouts' pelts on the wall?

start with the guy that said Lev never got beat at MSU...not because Lev was a bad pick but because even Matthew Schaefer got walked last year...

 

[statswatcher]

Now that KK is done in Chicago, can we put some of these old amateur scouts' pelts on the wall?

you of all people ought to know no one is getting fired anytime soon

 

[hockeydoug]

you of all people ought to know no one is getting fired anytime soon

You're right.

I know it, I just don't want to believe it.

 

[Geoist]

mainboard thread about KD gotta be some of the dumbest shit posted about Hawks in a bit...you'd think he sold everything for Byram...the #1 pipeline, the 3 1sts in 27....Frondell...etc etc...just a brutal thread

I refuse to even go there. I know it'll piss me off to the point where I'll say something to get suspended/banned.

 

[SimpleJack]

Forget the whole trade for a second. And forget contracts too. I'm just curious from a hockey standpoint what you guys think. If we assume McKenna, Stenberg, and Reid go 1,2,3, would you guys rather have Carels or Malhotra than Byram?

HELL no.

Carels is an unknown that could take years to develop. Malhotra is another young C and we already are rolling Bedard/Frondell/Nazar down the middle with Moore and Greene also.

We needed offense and skill on the back end that was NHL ready.

 

[ello]

Like others have said its just disheartening and exhausting to keep having the same roundabout conversations after our GM decides to do something unconventional/risky.

- Lev over Demidov
- playing Korchinski in the NHL way too early
- giving up value to trade up in the 2024 draft before even knowing what players were going to fall
- This trade

Even smaller things like Boisvert in general, somehow not finding a skill winger for Bedard in 3 first rounds since 2023, not getting anything at the TDL for Donato when Beauvillier went for a 2nd, missing out on small, low risk deals for players like Zegras/Chinakov/Samoskevich

KD has his own vision and he's way too reckless and tunnel visioned in his pursuit of it. He overvalues his own prospects. He made comments last year that "you can't win with players like Ehlers and Marner". The arrogance is just unearned and unproven, and I think its possible he's just going to keep bleeding assets and value everywhere until its too late