Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Miller Time]

Then don't tell me how to post if you're not a moderator.

What happened to

Guys,

It's a discussion board.

We're discussing our players/prospects based on current performance.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it is what it is.

Your posts seem a bit hypocrital lol

I never said RB is a bust. Obviously when I refer to him as Bustbacher it's in jest.

Yes, I get that you like to post troll comments... I don't get why you whine about that being pointed out

Go read my posts. I've never even remotely referred to him as a busted prospect, not once.

You've posted a bunch of times in this thread highlighting impatience and/or an inability to assess the prospect...


If you didn't mean what you posted, no point getting so upset, just post what you actually think.

But, have a take don't suck still applies

 

[River Meadow]

What happened to


Your posts seem a bit hypocrital lol

You wanna keep this going? This is literally hijacking the thread and we're not even discussing the prospect at this point, but okay...

Yes, I said, discussion of players.

You aren't discussing a player. You are literally telling me how I should post on hfboards. If you don't see the difference, I can try to further break it down for you.

Yes, I get that you like to post troll comments... I don't get why you whine about that being pointed out



You've posted a bunch of times in this thread highlighting impatience and/or an inability to assess the prospect...


If you didn't mean what you posted, no point getting so upset, just post what you actually think.

But, have a take don't suck still applies

I'll be nice, because I assume English is not your first language, and I'll just say that you're not as slick as you think you are.

Let's stick to discussing the players now. If you have a problem with me going forward, block me.

 

[Miller Time]

You wanna keep this going? This is literally hijacking the thread and we're not even discussing the prospect at this point, but okay...

Yes, I said, discussion of players.

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You aren't discussing a player. You are literally telling me how I should post on hfboards. If you don't see the difference, I can try to further break it down for you.

Nope. I pointed out that your takes in this thread about RB are poor & reflect a lack of understanding of prospect progression.

I also pointed out your troll posts, which are also beling the bad take bucket... Imo. I'm allowed to have an opinion, as per you

You keep talking about me, rather than about my posts. Take your own advice and this will solve everything.

I'll be nice, because I assume English is not your first language, and I'll just say that you're not as slick as you think you are.

You know what they say about assuming... Leave Ming alone svp

Let's stick to discussing the players now. If you have a problem with me going forward, block me.

Lol.

Have a take (about hockey, & in this thread, about RB.)

Don't suck. (ie post nonsense or get upset for nonsense being called out).

Simple. For most...

 

[River Meadow]

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Nope. I printed out that your takes about RB are poor & reflect a lack of understanding of prospect progression.

You keep talking about me. Take your own advice and this will solve everything.

You know what they say about assuming... Leave Ming alone svp



Lol.

Have a take (about hockey, & in this thread, about RB.)

Don't suck. (ie post nonsense or get upset for nonsense being called out).

Simple. For most...

Bruh.

I'm not even gonna read this.

Stick on topic.

Thanks.

 

[Miller Time]

Bruh.

I'm not even gonna read this.

Stick on topic.

Thanks.

Ditto broski.

How many posts are you going to make before talking about RB?

 

[River Meadow]

Ditto broski.

How many posts are you going to make before talking about RB?

You mean Bustbacher?

I'll be watching the game tonight, hoping to see him play well with Matheson.

 

[Miller Time]

You mean Bustbacher?

I predict that the reinstone cowboy is going to go troll hunting by the end of this season, just like Slaf did last year

 

[River Meadow]

I predict that the reinstone cowboy is going to go troll hunting by the end of this season, just like Slaf did last year

I'm not sure what that means,

That he turns it around and makes everyone saying he is average right now, eat crow, because he will be playing amazing by end of the season?

If so....

Good. Can't wait.

 

[ReHabs]

If you trusted the Reinbacher pick

And trust Reinbacher as a prospect

You shouldn’t be so fussed and confused whenever someone expresses any doubt or criticism of Reinbacher.

Re-lax.

 

[Miller Time]

I'm not sure what that means,

That he turns it around and makes everyone saying he is average right now, eat crow, because he will be playing amazing by end of the season?

If so....

Good. Can't wait.

Moreso the impatient and Ill informed posters who rush to assert bust status on prospects, like Slaf & now RB, going 180 once said players see their performance effectiveness & impact catch up to the skill and potential that was always visible to those who understand what they are watching

Sorry you have to wait to enjoy what is right in front of us, but rest assured

Future is bright

 

[Naslundforever]

You wanna keep this going? This is literally hijacking the thread and we're not even discussing the prospect at this point, but okay...

Yes, I said, discussion of players.

You aren't discussing a player. You are literally telling me how I should post on hfboards. If you don't see the difference, I can try to further break it down for you.



I'll be nice, because I assume English is not your first language, and I'll just say that you're not as slick as you think you are.

Let's stick to discussing the players now. If you have a problem with me going forward, block me.

As far as I’m concerned you can keep trolling and being a Karen for being called out for it. You be you, RM.

 

[Miller Time]

If you trusted the Reinbacher pick

And trust Reinbacher as a prospect

You shouldn’t be so fussed and confused whenever someone expresses any doubt or criticism of Reinbacher.

Re-lax.

What does trust have to do with present day assessments?

Some assessments are better than others, that shouldn't be so controversial... Especially after how clearly that was showcased last year with our 2022 1OA

Discussion and debate over assessments is one of the features of a message board, no?

 

[River Meadow]

If you trusted the Reinbacher pick

And trust Reinbacher as a prospect

You shouldn’t be so fussed and confused whenever someone expresses any doubt or criticism of Reinbacher.

Re-lax.

Feels like some take the 'Montreal Canadiens is a religion' thing a bit too far, and shun anyone who don't adhere to having strict blind optimism.

God forbid someone says Bustbacher has looked somewhat underwhelming and ordinary this preseason thus far.

 

[ReHabs]

What does trust have to do with present day assessments?

There have been zero relevant data points so far to indicate whether or not Reinbacher will succeed in the NHL. It’s all trust.

Some assessments are better than others, that shouldn't be so controversial... Especially after how clearly that was showcased last year with our 2022 1OA

Some people make assessments based on data and inputs and trends and others go by “vibes”. Sometimes the vibes types end up looking like the winners. Many such cases.

Discussion and debate over assessments is one of the features of a message board, no?

Not my place to say what can and can’t be said here. I don’t even know what youre trying to say.

 

[River Meadow]

As far as I’m concerned you can keep trolling and being a Karen for being called out for it. You be you, RM.

Thanks, dad.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Yes, they do.

It's a constant battle to find something they can complain about.

They had their cake with Slaf and when Slaf proved them wrong, it was on to Reinbacher and then there's still the Mesar bashing.

They'll lament about Michkov forever, too.

They'll invent bad things about Hutson.

They'll fixate on the smallest thing on Demidov.

Just miserable people who want to make themselves miserable.

you were the most miserable person here for a decade bro, something pot something kettle

 

[ReHabs]

Feels like some take the 'Montreal Canadiens is a religion' thing a bit too far, and shun anyone who don't adhere to having strict blind optimism.

Optimism is nicer and more enjoyable than pessimism. I’ve learned my lesson and believe it now — unless things go bad there’s no point to dwell on how they might or could go bad. One does not need to be delusional though.

Otherwise, of course I agree about the religious zealotry aspect.

God forbid someone says Bustbacher has looked somewhat underwhelming and ordinary this preseason thus far.

Your nickname is going to rankle people but their rankling should be muted if they really believed in Reinbacher like they say they do.

I haven’t watched the preseason so I don’t really care how he has looked (as long as it wasn’t catastrophically bad) because he wasn’t meant to take a NHL spot anyway, so whatever.

 

[thebestnic]

you were the most miserable person here for a decade bro, something pot something kettle

Bergevin did put some of us in a crippling depression

 

[River Meadow]

There have been zero relevant data points so far to indicate whether or not Reinbacher will succeed in the NHL. It’s all trust.

Some people make assessments based on data and inputs and trends and others go by “vibes”. Sometimes the vibes types end up looking like the winners. Many such cases.

Not my place to say what can and can’t be said here. I don’t even know what youre trying to say.

If you don't think Bustbacher is amazing and is going to be amazing, you don't understand hockey, sir.

Signed, Miller Time.

 

[TomKosto]

Excuse me?

Are you a moderator on here?

Crying out when trolling, always funny.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Guhle isn't even seen as a top 4 defender by most of this fanbase and he's clearly a top 30 D in the league, right now. What you say about Reinbacher is a pipe dream.

By the age of 20 Reinbacher will have 3 pro seasons under his belt. Kaiden had no pro experience. Reinbacher stood out at the WJC against the best on a hot garbage team.

It blows my mind how he gets dismissed and devalued. I love Guhles game. Always have. But Reinbacher will be a notch above. He will be top pairing RD playing 25 minutes a night. I don’t understand why people can’t see this. He literally would have just graduated high school and he already plays with the poise he does

 

[River Meadow]

Optimism is nicer and more enjoyable than pessimism. I’ve learned my lesson and believe it now — unless things go bad there’s no point to dwell on how they might or could go bad. One does not need to be delusional though.

Otherwise, of course I agree about the religious zealotry aspect.

Your nickname is going to rankle people but their rankling should be muted if they really believed in Reinbacher like they say they do.

I haven’t watched the preseason so I don’t really care how he has looked (as long as it wasn’t catastrophically bad) because he wasn’t meant to take a NHL spot anyway, so whatever.

I don't even like pessimism, I like realism, and honesty.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Reinbuster already defends better than 80% of our D corps. Which is not a huge achievement, because theyre trash on D. But still, he's only 19-20.

I want him playing in the AHL because he wont get as many offensive opportunities to develop his offensive touches with the big team, but he will be a top pairing D for us for a long time.

 

[River Meadow]

Reinbuster

 

[Miller Time]

There have been zero relevant data points so far to indicate whether or not Reinbacher will succeed in the NHL. It’s all trust.

Assessing a player is not either data points or trust.

The best player evaluators any sport use data as a support, not a source of their assessments.

Some people make assessments based on data and inputs and trends and others go by “vibes”. Sometimes the vibes types end up looking like the winners. Many such cases.

Lol. Sure, amongst those without a background in the field of performance development... Which, of course, is the majority of sport fans.

But there are competencies in athlete assessment that are more informative than data sets. Using data without those competencies is precisely where terrible player assessments show up the most.

Not my place to say what can and can’t be said here. I don’t even know what youre trying to say.

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I thought it obvious.

Last year, many posters couldn't understand or see the very obvious signs of performance progression (and limitations) of one of our top prospects. They relied heavily on the available data about his performance and shallow visual assessments of his play to feed a strong conviction that he was "being rushed", "had no or low hockey IQ", "was a terrible pick", "was/would be a bust".

This despite the experts closest to his progression and performance articulating very clearly what they saw, and some fans around here observing and articulating those same things.

Sadly, we're seeing glimpses of the same thing at play. RB, by his play, is demonstrating quite clearly "what they saw & see in him"... But one has to know what they are looking at and how to assess it, to be able to see those attributes. If not, like with Slaf last year, the superficial assessments backed by small data sets that are ultimately meaningless without the ability to contextualize them appropriately, drive hot takes and, poor assessments.

Vibes & trust have nothing to do with it. Dismissing something one doesn't understand in that manner isn't a good way to expand ones understanding... Imo

Reinbuster already defends better than 80% of our D corps. Which is not a huge achievement, because theyre trash on D. But still. he's only 19-20.

I want him playing in the AHL because he wont get as many offensive opportunities to develop his offensive touches with the big team, but he will be a top pairing D for us for a long time.

I too hope he busts-a-move in the AHL, if only because it'll save us the incessant whining about his play in every Habs game day thread.