Show me where I said the word 'exciting'.
Now do Ryan Leonard (and tbf, I don't even care about these, ohhh we should have drafted so and so, I rather just complain about who we drafted, but people do keep bringing it up so I'll engage)
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Show me where I said the word 'exciting'.
Now do Ryan Leonard (and tbf, I don't even care about these, ohhh we should have drafted so and so, I rather just complain about who we drafted, but people do keep bringing it up so I'll engage)
Kennerback
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I need a lot more convincing that Leonard is clearly superior to Reinbacher. Michkov is another category.
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If we got a Pronger or Nieds with DR I’ll personally take you to any NHL game you want in Montreal and fluff your ballsack during the second and third period , out of the disrespect I have shown.
junyab
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Based on his ability to break up rushes, or snuff out a cycle, and send the puck back up ice in possession.
As evidence, in his 11 games with the Rocket, he had the best +/- on the team. His numbers were better than Xhekaj's with the Rocket, and very slightly better than Struble's.
He puts me to sleep at times with how pedestrian and ordinary he looks, for a 5th OA pick.
Excitement has nothing to do with it and isn't the correct term for this context.
I care about competence over excitement.
I'll copy what I wrote in another post below:
"But most fans would like for our 5th OA pick to show us something and not look completely ordinary.
Not saying that means he won't be good... he likely will be in time, but it's quite underwhelming right now."
Excellent! Then you should appreciate Reinbacher's competence at reducing goals against.
Absolutely.
And expecting a damn good defensive Dman, to have been taken 5th OA.
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What's your baseline for competence here?
Most 19 years old Dman from Europe are kind of a shitshow when they come over. Getting used to the NA brand of hockey, NHL ice size and NHL speed all at once isn't easy.
Ordinary is pretty good at this stage.
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This has been explained in this thread ad nauseum and I already know I'm wasting time by addressing it but he's on track to be exactly what we thought he would be.
I was at last night's game and had my focus completely on Reinbacher, Hutson, and Barron. I have no idea how you guys can watch the game in the 2nd and 3rd periods and see anything but Reinbacher being a very promising defensive prospect.
He was great at taking away chances off the rush, we were watching the Leafs avoid trying him down his wing late in the game cause he was basically unbeatable. Off the cycle he was excellent, he cuts angles and takes away time and space at a very high level and there was plenty of opposing NHL talent out there to test him. There were a few times where he made a timid or bad pass on the breakout which resulted in a turnover but thats the difference in skill and speed when you're facing an NHL team. To judge him based on that when he hasn't ever seen such level of competition is absurd.
I hope you're not a football fan on a team forum because you'd be complaining about every single offensive lineman pick your team made. Those guys aren't exciting, however they are absolutely necessary to win anything at all. You can always tell who has no idea what they're talking about when fans complain about the o-line in football, those fans are also there for the 'entertainment'.
Nobody ever said every position is an exciting and flashy one, I don't understand this narrative and you guys are incessant with it. Some guys are the backbone on which the skill players can play off of, absolutely necessary ingredient for a winning team.
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If the Flyers got Selanne or prime Karya with Michkov i'll manage to organzie a date between you and Jennifer Lawrence. Prime Karya did 42 goals and 101 points in the middle of the dead puck era. Selanne scored 51 and 52 goals right in the middle of the dead puck era. That's probably 60+ goals today and 120+ today. Michkov is very far from having accomplished those tasks.
That's good, I'm glad to hear he is doing well.
Is there an NHL comparable you can think of when it comes to Bustbacher?
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3 decades of mostly failed drafting and development PTSD is hard to move past and understandable fans will have reservations on trust til we start having success. Hopefully Slaf’s story is a turning point and Reinbacher can follow the same trajectory in the next 2 years.
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I'm still going with Pietrangelo, big rangy, good skating, no flashy puck skills but a decent shot. Hard to gain zone entries against, long stick against the cycle. I'm not convinced he'll ever have high-end puck skills, neither does Petro. I think he has a chance to be an even better breakout player than him though and he's every bit as good at shielding the puck with his body. He has an even wider frame and base than Pietrangelo does. I think that's the upside with the guy and I think he gets somewhere around there.
I'm way more interested in your comparable though.
Nice, that sounds good.
I have no comparable for him yet tbh.
I think he might even surprise with offensive upside, but I also think he's gonna need a lot of time to sort his game out.
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Comparing them to 4 Hall of Famers - yes that exactly what I intended.
Let me be clearer, given the current top 6 s - which already has two core players under 6 feet - I don't think Hugo wants to add a 5'10 player and Demidov. That would make for a very soft top 6.
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Yes, because signing and trading players is strictly forbidden in the NHL. The roster we have now must remain the same one forever.
Habnot
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Because core top 6 players change teams all the time right?
Also Habs are in advantageous cap situation with their top players. None of the young forwards will earn 8 M for the foreseeable future. We will live and die with Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield, Dach, Demidov and one more to add through UFA once the team reaches the next step.
NHL team building is not like EA Sport. It's hard to move big contracts. Ask Toronto how easy it is to trade core players.
Habs being in an advantageous cap situation helps in any future trades.
Not sure why you bring up Toronto, as their top players cap situation is the exact opposite of ours, of course it would be difficult for them. Not to mention, there's no indication they even wanted to move any of their core; they kept wanting to 'run it back'.
Saying 'the habs will live and die with blablabla' doesn't prove a point. I'm not saying I disagree but yeah it's easy to see why they would be happy with good young players at a reasonable cap cost.
Technically though, anything is possible and IF we had drafted Michkov or Leonard or Joe Blow from Saskatoon, there always is an option to move a similar roster player if the team felt inclined to do so for whatever reason.
HuGort
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This season Laval. Reinbacher rough around the edges. Both Struble and Engstrom looked better other night.
if it's easier for you, just imagine that we had traded michkov for reinbacaher at the draft night
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