Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[BehindTheTimes]

Mailloux is nowhere near the top RHD prospect. Reinbacher is already better and he is 2 years younger. They’re not close for me, If you don’t see the difference when both have the puck and without I wonder what you’re watching. Reinbacher is smarter and calmer.

We will definitely need to disagree here. Especially on the Reinbacher is already better nonsense. Mailloux is currently the better player snd imo I think it will stay that way.

 

[Kojo]

I don’t think he’ll have the offensive career that many expects over Matvei Michkov.

Bro have you been following? These two players are apple and orange. Nobody thinks Reinbacher is going to be an offensive juggernaut.

 

[HuGort]

I thought he looked good but he was also defending scrubs last night , I believe he could make the third pair or 7th dman right now but there's no point in doing so

Another year in Laval I say. Just wasn't what I was expecting last night. Struble looked way better. Instead give Barron ton of ice time this season see if he can figure it out.

 

[Shutdown]

tbf,

Hughes did say that on the day he drafted him, so he wasn't wrong and he wasn't lying.

Why bother with a Michkov or Leonard or etc, etc, when you can have a sort of big, rangy, 2nd pairing D on your hands.

he said 2D not 2nd pairing

 

[Thomas Sowell]

The primary role of a defenseman is to a defend It takes time in this league to be that. Brent Seabrook would be an example of a number 2 D, averaged 35 points throughout his career, was an integral part of the Blackhawks success and suited up for team Canada. That would be very important piece for us if that's what reinbachers became

But I do believe believe reinbachers ceiling is higher than that and to base his future off a 19 year old audition playing the most offensively gifted team in the league with just about all their regulars and barely getting a single other NHL defenceman out there with you is very premature.

There are a ton of star defensemen that do not even make the NHL until into their 20's.
Let him simmer.

He will be fine.

 

[Tyson]

The primary role of a defenseman is to a defend It takes time in this league to be that. Brent Seabrook would be an example of a number 2 D, averaged 35 points throughout his career, was an integral part of the Blackhawks success and suited up for team Canada. That would be very important piece for us if that's what reinbachers became

But I do believe believe reinbachers ceiling is higher than that and to base his future off a 19 year old audition playing the most offensively gifted team in the league with just about all their regulars and barely getting a single other NHL defenceman out there with you is very premature.

There are a ton of star defensemen that do not even make the NHL until into their 20's.
Let him simmer.

He will be fine.

Great name! Thomas Sowell is an icon!
Well said regarding David Reinbacher.

I’ve seen Reinbacher for a couple games.
I don’t think he’ll have the offensive career that many expects over Matvei Michkov.
I’ve analyze his game, I see a very close resemblance to Brandon Carlo or Colton Parayko.
Both are top 4 defenseman, and if Reinbacher’s game develops, he’ll be more Parayko.
He’s at 6’4” this season and still 19. He should top at 6’4” or 6’5” 220-225lbs.

My guess is David Reinbacher will be a big minute horse on defense for the Canadiens. I think he will be an all situation defenseman. Protecting the lead, shutting down top lines. To me, Reinbacher will be a 25-35 points defenseman. I think he’s a better fit with Kaiden Guhle than with Lane Hutson.

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[Andrei79]

tbf,

Hughes did say that on the day he drafted him, so he wasn't wrong and he wasn't lying.

Why bother with a Michkov or Leonard or etc, etc, when you can have a sort of big, rangy, 2nd pairing D on your hands.

Hughes never said that.

 

[FrankMTL]

He will need some time in Laval which is 100% understandable. It's tough for 19 year old defensemen to have immediate success in the NHL.

I have no doubt he can play in the NHL at the moment, but we have enough defensemen to let him develop somewhat away from the spotlight in Laval.

 

[montreal]

I don’t think he’ll have the offensive career that many expects over Matvei Michkov.

Are you insane?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Looks like the David Reinbacher thread is going to have to go the way of the Juraj Slafkovsky thread - which is a toxic cesspool you don't go into because it's full of crying, hot takes and general stupidity.

He had a nervous first period as did pretty much the entire roster who didn't have extensive NHL experience.

The penalty kill goal was a miscommunication where he thought Struble had Tavares and he was shaded out to the one-timer threat on the dot. That's Xs and Os that gets ironed out in a season, nothing more than that.

After that, he showed exactly what he was drafted to do. Shut down the rush with his stick and skating. Defend the in-zone cycle with his skating and size. Get the puck, evade pressure and make quick, solid exits out of the zone and then support the attack with clever activations.

We just played NJ with Simon Nemec, a 2nd overall pick, and he was worse, with more experience, than Reinbacher was in this game. The Devils could have taken small scorer Logan Cooley instead.

Defenseman take longer to develop, so trying to make mountains of mole hills is just wanting to make yourself mad and miserable. Let the man develop, there's absolutely no need for him to be a first pairing defenseman TODAY.

The small scorers are almost ALWAYS ahead of the big defenseman. You guys have watched hockey long enough, you post about it on a message board, you must know by now that it's common knowledge that defense and goaltending have the longest run way of development to their upside.

Yes, some of the special talents like a Drew Doughty come in and do it earlier. No one has ever billed Reinbacher as a Drew Doughty. If that's what you thought they were getting, that's on you, and if things are failing to meet expectations you set by yourself, because of some weird "an X overall pick must be X" lie you tell yourself, that's on you, not on management and certainly not on the player.

Recalibrate. Chill out. He's going to be a very valuable piece to the rebuild and he is not going to be flashy about it.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

It was always Laval , you guys are putting top 4 expectations on a 19 year old...its interesting

 

[FrankMTL]

Looks like the David Reinbacher thread is going to have to go the way of the Juraj Slafkovsky thread - which is a toxic cesspool you don't go into because it's full of crying, hot takes and general stupidity.

He had a nervous first period as did pretty much the entire roster who didn't have extensive NHL experience.

The penalty kill goal was a miscommunication where he thought Struble had Tavares and he was shaded out to the one-timer threat on the dot. That's Xs and Os that gets ironed out in a season, nothing more than that.

After that, he showed exactly what he was drafted to do. Shut down the rush with his stick and skating. Defend the in-zone cycle with his skating and size. Get the puck, evade pressure and make quick, solid exits out of the zone and then support the attack with clever activations.

We just played NJ with Simon Nemec, a 2nd overall pick, and he was worse, with more experience, than Reinbacher was in this game. The Devils could have taken small scorer Logan Cooley instead.

Defenseman take longer to develop, so trying to make mountains of mole hills is just wanting to make yourself mad and miserable. Let the man develop, there's absolutely no need for him to be a first pairing defenseman TODAY.

The small scorers are almost ALWAYS ahead of the big defenseman. You guys have watched hockey long enough, you post about it on a message board, you must know by now that it's common knowledge that defense and goaltending have the longest run way of development to their upside.

Yes, some of the special talents like a Drew Doughty come in and do it earlier. No one has ever billed Reinbacher as a Drew Doughty. If that's what you thought they were getting, that's on you, and if things are failing to meet expectations you set by yourself, because of some weird "an X overall pick must be X" lie you tell yourself, that's on you, not on management and certainly not on the player.

Recalibrate. Chill out. He's going to be a very valuable piece to the rebuild and he is not going to be flashy about it.

Well said.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

It was always Laval , you guys are putting top 4 expectations on a 19 year old...its interesting

Yes.

He may get games at points during the season due to injuries, but he shouldn’t be challenging for a regular spot until next year’s camp.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Looks like the David Reinbacher thread is going to have to go the way of the Juraj Slafkovsky thread - which is a toxic cesspool you don't go into because it's full of crying, hot takes and general stupidity.

He had a nervous first period as did pretty much the entire roster who didn't have extensive NHL experience.

The penalty kill goal was a miscommunication where he thought Struble had Tavares and he was shaded out to the one-timer threat on the dot. That's Xs and Os that gets ironed out in a season, nothing more than that.

After that, he showed exactly what he was drafted to do. Shut down the rush with his stick and skating. Defend the in-zone cycle with his skating and size. Get the puck, evade pressure and make quick, solid exits out of the zone and then support the attack with clever activations.

We just played NJ with Simon Nemec, a 2nd overall pick, and he was worse, with more experience, than Reinbacher was in this game. The Devils could have taken small scorer Logan Cooley instead.

Defenseman take longer to develop, so trying to make mountains of mole hills is just wanting to make yourself mad and miserable. Let the man develop, there's absolutely no need for him to be a first pairing defenseman TODAY.

The small scorers are almost ALWAYS ahead of the big defenseman. You guys have watched hockey long enough, you post about it on a message board, you must know by now that it's common knowledge that defense and goaltending have the longest run way of development to their upside.

Yes, some of the special talents like a Drew Doughty come in and do it earlier. No one has ever billed Reinbacher as a Drew Doughty. If that's what you thought they were getting, that's on you, and if things are failing to meet expectations you set by yourself, because of some weird "an X overall pick must be X" lie you tell yourself, that's on you, not on management and certainly not on the player.

Recalibrate. Chill out. He's going to be a very valuable piece to the rebuild and he is not going to be flashy about it.

It's a great write up , but the people mad or roasting the kid don't deserve it , I wouldn't waste too much time on them

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

Postgame late night doomer.
White knight walltext morning.

Perfectly balanced.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I’ve seen Reinbacher for a couple games.
I don’t think he’ll have the offensive career that many expects over Matvei Michkov.
I’ve analyze his game, I see a very close resemblance to Brandon Carlo or Colton Parayko.
Both are top 4 defenseman, and if Reinbacher’s game develops, he’ll be more Parayko.
He’s at 6’4” this season and still 19. He should top at 6’4” or 6’5” 220-225lbs.

My guess is David Reinbacher will be a big minute horse on defense for the Canadiens. I think he will be an all situation defenseman. Protecting the lead, shutting down top lines. To me, Reinbacher will be a 25-35 points defenseman. I think he’s a better fit with Kaiden Guhle than with Lane Hutson.

Reinbacher is 6’2”

We actually don’t know. He is 19.

Guhle is practically 3 years older and still has space to get better and round up his game.

Just to show how raw Reinbacher still is and how much his game will evolve in the next 3-4 years.

Of course, every player has a ceiling and floor, but we can still observe what he’s trending to be. He’s trending to be a 2nd pairing guy.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

The primary role of a defenseman is to a defend It takes time in this league to be that. Brent Seabrook would be an example of a number 2 D, averaged 35 points throughout his career, was an integral part of the Blackhawks success and suited up for team Canada. That would be very important piece for us if that's what reinbachers became

But I do believe believe reinbachers ceiling is higher than that and to base his future off a 19 year old audition playing the most offensively gifted team in the league with just about all their regulars and barely getting a single other NHL defenceman out there with you is very premature.

There are a ton of star defensemen that do not even make the NHL until into their 20's.
Let him simmer.

He will be fine.

The REAL Thomas Sowell?!?!

 

[417]

Looks like the David Reinbacher thread is going to have to go the way of the Juraj Slafkovsky thread - which is a toxic cesspool you don't go into because it's full of crying, hot takes and general stupidity.

He had a nervous first period as did pretty much the entire roster who didn't have extensive NHL experience.

The penalty kill goal was a miscommunication where he thought Struble had Tavares and he was shaded out to the one-timer threat on the dot. That's Xs and Os that gets ironed out in a season, nothing more than that.

After that, he showed exactly what he was drafted to do. Shut down the rush with his stick and skating. Defend the in-zone cycle with his skating and size. Get the puck, evade pressure and make quick, solid exits out of the zone and then support the attack with clever activations.

We just played NJ with Simon Nemec, a 2nd overall pick, and he was worse, with more experience, than Reinbacher was in this game. The Devils could have taken small scorer Logan Cooley instead.

Defenseman take longer to develop, so trying to make mountains of mole hills is just wanting to make yourself mad and miserable. Let the man develop, there's absolutely no need for him to be a first pairing defenseman TODAY.

The small scorers are almost ALWAYS ahead of the big defenseman. You guys have watched hockey long enough, you post about it on a message board, you must know by now that it's common knowledge that defense and goaltending have the longest run way of development to their upside.

Yes, some of the special talents like a Drew Doughty come in and do it earlier. No one has ever billed Reinbacher as a Drew Doughty. If that's what you thought they were getting, that's on you, and if things are failing to meet expectations you set by yourself, because of some weird "an X overall pick must be X" lie you tell yourself, that's on you, not on management and certainly not on the player.

Recalibrate. Chill out. He's going to be a very valuable piece to the rebuild and he is not going to be flashy about it.

It's like near collective amnesia every September with this fanbase.

 

[Shutdown]

Of course, every player has a ceiling and floor, but we can still observe what he’s trending to be. He’s trending to be a 2nd pairing guy.

i don't think you know what this word means

 

[lou4gehrig]

He’s a second pairing guy. It is what it is.

0 games played in the NHL. Guessing. It is what it is. He's a top 50 player under 23 in the same tier as Silayev, Iginla, Gauthier, etc. (according to the Athletic article. He's still developing physically.

Like Slaf over Shane Wright, Reinbacher wasn't drafted right before Michkov. And Michkov was 7th overall only. Yeah he's developed better than expected, but to claim the Habs should have 100% known better is nonsense. Many mock drafts had Michkov in the 6-10 range.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Looks like the David Reinbacher thread is going to have to go the way of the Juraj Slafkovsky thread - which is a toxic cesspool you don't go into because it's full of crying, hot takes and general stupidity.

He had a nervous first period as did pretty much the entire roster who didn't have extensive NHL experience.

The penalty kill goal was a miscommunication where he thought Struble had Tavares and he was shaded out to the one-timer threat on the dot. That's Xs and Os that gets ironed out in a season, nothing more than that.

After that, he showed exactly what he was drafted to do. Shut down the rush with his stick and skating. Defend the in-zone cycle with his skating and size. Get the puck, evade pressure and make quick, solid exits out of the zone and then support the attack with clever activations.

We just played NJ with Simon Nemec, a 2nd overall pick, and he was worse, with more experience, than Reinbacher was in this game. The Devils could have taken small scorer Logan Cooley instead.

Defenseman take longer to develop, so trying to make mountains of mole hills is just wanting to make yourself mad and miserable. Let the man develop, there's absolutely no need for him to be a first pairing defenseman TODAY.

The small scorers are almost ALWAYS ahead of the big defenseman. You guys have watched hockey long enough, you post about it on a message board, you must know by now that it's common knowledge that defense and goaltending have the longest run way of development to their upside.

Yes, some of the special talents like a Drew Doughty come in and do it earlier. No one has ever billed Reinbacher as a Drew Doughty. If that's what you thought they were getting, that's on you, and if things are failing to meet expectations you set by yourself, because of some weird "an X overall pick must be X" lie you tell yourself, that's on you, not on management and certainly not on the player.

Recalibrate. Chill out. He's going to be a very valuable piece to the rebuild and he is not going to be flashy about it.

Yeah if you believed in Slaf you were just a moron.

I’ve no idea why people love to paint themselves into these bizarre corners with these absolutist takes.

Nothing wrong with thinking Reinbacher isn’t great but it’s just the certainty that some posters have about his low ceiling are just silly.

 

[Benstheman]

Reinbacher is 6’2”


Of course, every player has a ceiling and floor, but we can still observe what he’s trending to be. He’s trending to be a 2nd pairing guy.

I have a question for you : what is a top pair D for you? Because the definition seems to be differing from a poster to another.

 

[lou4gehrig]

I have a question for you : what is a top pair D for you? Because the definition seems to be differing from a poster to another.

Probably means a top pairing on a dynastic cup winning team. Ben Chiarot is a top pairing D. Mario Ferraro is a top pairing D.

Ekholm is a top paring D now on one of the best teams in the league, but his first 4-5 years was he a top pairing D playing with Josi, Ellis, Weber, PK etc? Did anybody ever predict he would be? Did it matter?

Some teams (Colorado) have 2 D who play alot more than the other D. Some teams (Carolina) have 4 D that play pretty much the same minutes. Some teams (Dallas) have 1 D who plays alot more than 2-4. Some teams (Florida last season) have 3 D who played the most minutes.

So yeah seems like guessing to me. Basically predicting Reinbacher is not Pronger is all he's saying.

 

[lou4gehrig]

I also don’t think that Reinbacher, a defenseman, will have the same offensive career as Matvei Michkov. On the offensive side of things, Reinbacher will lie somewhere between Douglas Murray and Patrick Kane, if I had to guess.

Michkov was the 7th overall pick and not even picked behind Reinbacher. Plenty of mock drafts had Reinbacher ahead of Michkov. Glad Michkov has outperformed his draft evaluation, that's good luck by Philly. But you're saying the Habs should have predicted that outperformance? If everyone had "known" about Michkov he would have been consensus 2nd overall pick.

 

[Mrb1p]

Michkov was the 7th overall pick and not even picked behind Reinbacher. Plenty of mock drafts had Reinbacher ahead of Michkov. Glad Michkov has outperformed his draft evaluation, that's good luck by Philly. But you're saying the Habs should have predicted that outperformance? If everyone had "known" about Michkov he would have been consensus 2nd overall pick.

Come on there's no luck to that selection... it was just plain stupidity by other teams. He was ranked in the top 2 for 5 years ahead of this draft.

Anyway, ot.