Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Seems like a great kid. Wasn't my pick at that spot but I'm hoping he becomes the best D in the league, because why wouldn't you?
I have been looking at these draft for a long time. He looked to be one of the happyest kid i have eard in an interview and alll managed to do it while looking smart and funny. We will love this guy for many years.
 
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WTF????????? Management didn't do anything wrong. It's a draft. Fans get excited, we get it, but management can't hold every crazy Habs fan's hand and read them bedtime stories. People who flip out over a hockey draft selection have no one to blame but themselves.
Those crazies are the reason they have to put warning labels on Tide Pods and why inbreeding is illegal. Social Media just makes them harder to ignore.
 
The people reaching out to the kid directly are absolute morons and should be shipped out of the fanbase.

Listen, I'm as pissed as the next guy we didn't take Michkov, Be angry at management not the innocent kid FFS!

He just had his dream moment and this should be a happy time and you selfish assholes are ruining it.

If you are pissed point your anger at the management group thats the only people who deserve it.
I guarantee you just about every player on our roster has reached out to this kid and explained it isn't the fanbase who actually show up to watch games who act like this. It's also not limited to our fanbase. I'm fairly certain Reinbacher is aware of the vitriol that gets posted in European Football and World Cup Football. Gutless wonders hiding behind their hand held devices.
 
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There’s context missing. He also implied that on teams that consider shut down D to be their style of play he would be D1, and he said that he doesn’t really like the D1 / D2 concept because he seems to think it’s flawed.
It is but it isn't. There will always be a D man who plays in all situations and logs the most minutes on the ice while purposely getting the hardest matchups to try and nullify the opponents best forwards. This isn't always the case as we see with lots of no. 1 D who are offensively gifted but suck at defence. So it is flawed in that way because it's very stationary in its theoretical definition while not being applicable a lot of time. I'd rather say two way top pairing D. Thankfully everything I described above about the prototypical no. 1 D probably applies to two D in the Habs system: Reinbacher and Guhle
 
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Was initially upset at the pick when Michkov was there, but scouting reports and analytics have reassured me that this was a great pick. If management had a full picture on Reinbacher and not Michkov and truly believed Reinbacher was BPA, you can’t fault them for that. For all we know, Reinbacher develops into that franchise defenseman. It seems like his absolute floor is a #2 that’ll eat heavy minutes and that’s still the type of defenseman you need to win.

It’s also utterly embarrassing that fans are trashing the kid because management picked him. These people need to get a life.
 
It is but it isn't. There will always be a D man who plays in all situations and logs the most minutes on the ice while purposely getting the hardest matchups to try and nullify the opponents best forwards. This isn't always the case as we see with lots of no. 1 D who are offensively gifted but suck at defence. So it is flawed in that way because it's very stationary in its theoretical definition while not being applicable a lot of time. I'd rather say two way top pairing D. Thankfully everything I described above about the prototypical no. 1 D probably applies to two D in the Habs system: Reinbacher and Guhle
Yeah. Reinbacher seems better defensively already than Mailloux and Barron and far above Hutson.
 
Yeah. Reinbacher seems better defensively already than Mailloux and Barron and far above Hutson.
The only crappy thing is now that I think of it more, they'll probably have to split up Guhle and Reinbacher to compensate for the others lack of elite defensive IQ. At least they're good offensively but they'll need those two defensive beasts to shelter them a bit 5 on 5 against first and second lines
 
It is but it isn't. There will always be a D man who plays in all situations and logs the most minutes on the ice while purposely getting the hardest matchups to try and nullify the opponents best forwards. This isn't always the case as we see with lots of no. 1 D who are offensively gifted but suck at defence. So it is flawed in that way because it's very stationary in its theoretical definition while not being applicable a lot of time. I'd rather say two way top pairing D. Thankfully everything I described above about the prototypical no. 1 D probably applies to two D in the Habs system: Reinbacher and Guhle
I totally agree, I'm adding in Hughes perspective and the context that was left out of the clip (statement of his prediction)
 
The only crappy thing is now that I think of it more, they'll probably have to split up Guhle and Reinbacher to compensate for the others lack of elite defensive IQ. At least they're good offensively but they'll need those two defensive beasts to shelter them a bit 5 on 5 against first and second lines
Matheson is still a young vet. Xhekaj has the tools to be good defensively (if he cuts a bit on the fights bouts). Kids like Struble and Trudeau are gaining pro experience at AHL level, too.
 
Carson Wentz? Then they drafted Hurts the year later and people were shocked since we had our QB. The eagles went BPA and were not filling buckets.
Wentz was drafted in 2016. Hurts was drafted in 2020. Are you the Eagles fan? You must not follow them much - Carson Wentz is long gone. BPA was Reinbacher. That's why they took him. Guy was saying sometimes you reach for a QB (high scorer) like Michkov.

Anyway Habs went BPA and took Reinbacher. Great progression, should be a very good defenseman. No one knows now who will turn out the best, but the Habs got a good one. Lucky for us Habs fans!

Go Habs! Can't wait to see Reinbacher suit up for the Habs. Hope he makes the jump in 2024-25!
 
It is but it isn't. There will always be a D man who plays in all situations and logs the most minutes on the ice while purposely getting the hardest matchups to try and nullify the opponents best forwards. This isn't always the case as we see with lots of no. 1 D who are offensively gifted but suck at defence. So it is flawed in that way because it's very stationary in its theoretical definition while not being applicable a lot of time. I'd rather say two way top pairing D. Thankfully everything I described above about the prototypical no. 1 D probably applies to two D in the Habs system: Reinbacher and Guhle
I wonder how many number one Dmen don't get PP1. I've seen Hedman not get first wave I've seen Pietrangelo not get first wave. I'm sure if we looked at the other 29 teams we will see plenty of top defenders do not get PP1. Heck some probably doen't get PP2.
 
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Shame on so many people here.

I’m not even a Canadiens fan. This guy is the best defenseman of this draft and will be a top pairing defenseman. Since your boy Hutson can’t play defense, Reinbacher will show you what a true #1D plays like.

You guys have 3-4 more drafts to pick a scoring talent, it’s not like you guys are going to be competitive anyway. So just be patient and be happy you have a Pietrangelo esque defenseman in your system.
 
They specifically said they don't have the full picture with Michkov (perhaps due to lack of interest on the Habs' part-- they certainly didn't seem interested).

I think the Reinbacher pick makes perfect sense: they didn't rate Michkov (and his upside) as much as Reinbacher (and his upside).

The question some of us have is why do they not rate the scoring forward if they think Reinbacher is only a 2D. You don't tank and then draft Jeff Petry with the 5OA, so what the hell is going on?

Jeff Petry wasn't sound defensively, and his offense was rover like, I sure hope they don't amount to the same, Reinbacher projects better in his own zone, so it looks good. His untapped offensive potential is the key.

I get your point, they could have taken Michkov and traded him in the case he didn't want to play, maybe he would have garnered a better player than Reinbacher. But that's the best possible scenario, people seem so sure he's a star, it's puzzling to me. All we have is hype, it wouldn't be the first time a hyped player doesn't succeed. There are many red flags with him otherwise Anaheim would have picked him if he were a guaranteed superstar. Mainly, can he translate his game being so slow and frail? Was the team built around him in Sochi, did his oppenents play with as much intensity against this bottom feeder, did it exagerate his numbers. Does his "confidence" make him take things for granted and hamper his progression? If he's as capricious as you say, he might have pulled a PLD and we might have ended with worst assets than Reinbacher in return.
 
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I wonder how many number one Dmen don't get PP1. I've seen Hedman not get first wave I've seen Pietrangelo not get first wave. I'm sure if we looked at the other 29 teams we will see plenty of top defenders do not get PP1. Heck some probably doen't get PP2.
TOI is more important generally than PP ice time, especially now with so many modern power plays using 4 forwards.

Honestly the whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Obviously the Habs see him as a #1 defenseman, that's why they took him 5. Hughes was trying to keep expectations reasonable but he made a mistake. Hopefully he learns from this and doesn't make that kind of mistake again.
 
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Shame on so many people here.

I’m not even a Canadiens fan. This guy is the best defenseman of this draft and will be a top pairing defenseman. Since your boy Hutson can’t play defense, Reinbacher will show you what a true #1D plays like.

You guys have 3-4 more drafts to pick a scoring talent, it’s not like you guys are going to be competitive anyway. So just be patient and be happy you have a Pietrangelo esque defenseman in your system.

Why the f*** are you coming on the Habs board, trying to shame us. It's not people here that are sending him shitty messages.

Go back to the main boards to troll the Habs.
 
Why the f*** are you coming on the Habs board, trying to shame us. It's not people here that are sending him shitty messages.

Go back to the main boards to troll the Habs.
I’m not here to troll? And I’m not talking about the shitty messages.

I’m talking to the people who think this was terrible pick, like they went completely off the board or something.

I can post wherever I want.
 
People on social media are disgusting I'm unhappy with the pick but I would never bother a kid online because he wasn't my favorite pick now I want him to be a number 1 d so all these clowns look even stupider than they already do no wonder we can't get free agents.
 
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Matheson is still a young vet. Xhekaj has the tools to be good defensively (if he cuts a bit on the fights bouts). Kids like Struble and Trudeau are gaining pro experience at AHL level, too.
True I just see xhekaj as a future second pairing guy who's unfortunately behind two great young D on the depth chart in Guhle and Hutson. As for Matheson, completely agree but unfortunately he won't be around when Habs start being competitive. He's very useful to have right now though to help the young D come along. The LD and the RD1 is pretty much locked for the future. I'm curious about if Engstroms game can translate well to NA but besides that Mailloux and Barron will probably be battling for that RD2 spot. Great problem to have. The D is looking tremendous and everything people wanted after seeing Vegas. Guhle is 6'2, Reinbacher is 6'2, Xhekaj is 6'4, Mailloux is 6'3, Barron is 6'2, Hutson is 5'9 on a good day but at least he's well insulated. And if he ends up busting which I doubt, Habs always have insurance in Engstrom and Struble.
 
True I just see xhekaj as a future second pairing guy who's unfortunately behind two great young D on the depth chart in Guhle and Hutson. As for Matheson, completely agree but unfortunately he won't be around when Habs start being competitive. He's very useful to have right now though to help the young D come along. The LD and the RD1 is pretty much locked for the future. I'm curious about if Engstroms game can translate well to NA but besides that Mailloux and Barron will probably be battling for that RD2 spot. Great problem to have. The D is looking tremendous and everything people wanted after seeing Vegas. Guhle is 6'2, Reinbacher is 6'2, Xhekaj is 6'4, Mailloux is 6'3, Barron is 6'2, Hutson is 5'9 on a good day but at least he's well insulated. And if he ends up busting which I doubt, Habs always have insurance in Engstrom and Struble.
The way Matheson is skating, he is gonna be good for many years to come.
 
I wonder how many number one Dmen don't get PP1. I've seen Hedman not get first wave I've seen Pietrangelo not get first wave. I'm sure if we looked at the other 29 teams we will see plenty of top defenders do not get PP1. Heck some probably doen't get PP2.
Yeah if you go back to 2021 Habs playoff run, Shea Weber by the minutes and matchups was clearly the top D on the team and he was only the theirs most used D by a decent margin on the PP after Petry and Gus
 
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