Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[InglewoodJack]

Well, a lot of people wanted Brule or Kopitar. So it is sort of is cherry picking, because Brule would have been a terrible pick.

Let’s not forget the contingent (including our F/O at the time) that was all in on Pouliot, who we would’ve drafted over price had he not gone fourth.

 

[Draft]

We got a big piece of the puzzle and - in terms of the rebuild - defence looks like it’s done. If even a couple of our young defenceman turn out, we have loads of assets to move for skilled forwards or for a young goalie. Pretty exciting IMO.

 

[Schooner Guy]

We got a big piece of the puzzle and - in terms of the rebuild - defence looks like it’s done. If even a couple of our young defenceman turn out, we have loads of assets to move for skilled forwards or for a young goalie. Pretty exciting IMO.

Dmen and centers have the highest value on the trade market.

 

[Rapala]

Imagine comparing those leagues to the KHL lol

KHL isn't a development just like the NHL, if you don't perform you sit or get sent down. 20 points in 30 games is impressive.

For reference, look at the stats Ovi put up before being drafted.

Well I for one am going to keep an eye on his stats. If he can't do better than what Radulov put up when he was over there I'm going to laugh at any franchise player talk.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Didn't account for what?

"His ability to learn quickly"

 

[1909]

Pitiful. These Fans are f***ing crazy bastards

 

[Draft]

Dmen and centers have the highest value on the trade market.

Absolutely. A young defenceman with top-4 potential that can stick in the NHL has huge value. We’ve got the prospects and we’ve got lots of minutes to pass around. I don’t want to be too optimistic, but it looks like we could have a couple to spare.

 

[FF de Mars]

I don't see how this claim is supported. They themselves intoned that Michkov was not interesting to the Habs because of all the unknown factors. That implies they felt Michkov wasn't the safe choice.

I think they bet on Reinbacher because his offensive potential is still rough; with Michkov, you know what you get. Now if we have informations about Michkov not wanting to play in Canada, the Reinbacher pick makes even more sense. I guess you can also say Reinbacher's contracts might bring more value if both succeed, and it would have been harder to retain Michkov.

 

[1909]

After having read and listen to many interview with people who knows him, (not us on this board and social medias) , I am re assured that he is gonna be a very good player at NHL level in a not so far future. His attitude and willingness to learn fast are awesome.

 

[Nedved]

I would think any top 10 pick that "busts" from any organization's scouting crew should be fired.

If we trade back, then Arizona takes Reinbacher.. since it is obvious Habs wanted a #1D (right handed) or a Centreman (all big 4 taken) that would have left Leonard as the next best pick. While I see Leonard as a great pick (too) reality is you can't build a team on the wings. Defense - Middle ice - Goalie last piece.

The positional pick was the correct pick to make for what we require. weather or not Reinbacher is indeed the best RHD (or Dman outright) remains to be seen, but from all the D available I would say the scouting crew made the right choice.

There is an absence of quality RHD available in the league (and developing), that Reinbacher is a righty is of great importance to the asset value of our team as a collective. Similar in NFL, there is a premium on Left Tackles (LT) if you have a right handed QB.

I'm an eagles fan, I want our team ran like the eagles are right now, they get it. Carter @ 9, lol. I love they build from the trenches out, but the nfl isn't like the nhl at all. But for the sake of argument, Michkov is a QB, sometimes you swing for the fences for that QB pick, sometimes it works out: Mahomes/Allen, sometimes it doesn't: Trubisky/ Smith.

I think you swing for the potential and numbers he had compared to Ovy, Malkin, Kucherov coupled with what he did @ under 18s. Philly sports gets it I guess.

 

[1909]

After having read and listen to many interview with people who knows him, (not us on this board and social medias) , I am re assured that he is gonna be a very good player at NHL level in a not so far future. His attitude and willingness to learn fast are awesome.

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[Whitesnake]

One thing here….the insults are evil and stupid and uncalled for towards the kid. But that stupid management created expectations. By not saying that they wouldn’t pick him. By meeting him. For Pete’s sake, every reason they gave, there no 1 on 1 meeting that would have changed it. I don’t care about strategy, read the f***ing room.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I'm an eagles fan, I want our team ran like the eagles are right now, they get it. Carter @ 9, lol. I love they build from the trenches out, but the nfl isn't like the nhl at all. But for the sake of argument, Michkov is a QB, sometimes you swing for the fences for that QB pick, sometimes it works out: Mahomes/Allen, sometimes it doesn't: Trubisky/ Smith.

I think you swing for the potential and numbers he had compared to Ovy, Malkin, Kucherov coupled with what he did @ under 18s. Philly sports gets it I guess.

Except the Eagles didn't pick a QB high. They got Hurts late. So they chose to focus on other things high, like David Reinbacher (Carter is DL). So the Eagles would endorse the Reinbacher selection.

I'm a Bills fan. Yes, I do accept condolences...

 

[Rapala]

THESE so called fans that give David hate messages, should be banned from the bell centre forever.
what a disgrace as a hab fan , make me sick

These are the same turds that demonstrate at the bell center when we name an english interim coach or who riot and vandalize when we haven't won anything. Those are not Habs fans and real Habs fans will not forget this travesty. I know this fan base and we will give the kid the ovation of a lifetime at the Bell Center. Like we did with Slaf at the draft last year despite the fact that he wasn't the pick most people there expected.

 

[Nedved]

Semantics bro. It's just an interview...

What's said behind closed doors is far more important to me than whatever pre-planned PR statements they give to the highly intelligent french media.

I wish I had these mental gymnastics skills. Listening to him speak felt like they settled on the pick.

Anyway, I'm excited for development camp. I think Reinbacher will impress and if he starts in the AHL, I can see him in the NHL at some point this year.

Reinbacher is a fantastic prospect. His tools are top 10. That said, Michkov's tools are top 2. That's the pain.

Except the Eagles didn't pick a QB high. They got Hurts late. So they chose to focus on other things high, like David Reinbacher (Carter is DL). So the Eagles would endorse the Reinbacher selection.

I'm a Bills fan. Yes, I do accept condolences...

Carson Wentz? Then they drafted Hurts the year later and people were shocked since we had our QB. The eagles went BPA and were not filling buckets with that pick. They said they had him a 1st round grade with starter potential (probably not near MVP though).

For the record, Howie (Eagles GM) said they drafted for need and it's how they ended up with Reagor instead of jefferson. They had jefferson as BPA but went with need of a true WO, instead of jefferson, who was projected to be in the slot. After that draft, Howie said he only draft BPA. That's how the eagles draft now.

 

[ReHabs]

a lot of teams took overagers this year it’s a consequence of covid imo. Lot of players slipped through the cracks the last year or two. Fwiw the two scouting services I read this year both EP and the black book implied this drsft was brutal after a certain point as well which is why we saw so many off the board picks

Did other teams take many overagers? I'm not sure. To me, it is a strange use of draft resources.

 

[Scriptor]

We got a big piece of the puzzle and - in terms of the rebuild - defence looks like it’s done. If even a couple of our young defenceman turn out, we have loads of assets to move for skilled forwards or for a young goalie. Pretty exciting IMO.

If Reinbacher pans out as a 1st pairing RHD, even if as more of a shutdown type, we are sitting pretty, IMO.

As it stands, we have Matheson - Guhle - Xhekaj/Harris as confirmed talented depth on the left side. We expect that Edmundson, at worst, on the last year of his contract, will be gone by year's end. This left-D depth doesn't factor in the up and coming Lane Hutson either! Nor does it consider Engstrom.

Clearly, and even with one lofty playing RD, we will be trading from a position of strength.

The key is really whether Reinbacher pans out as a 1st pairing RHD and whether Mailloux can be properly insulated by Guhle on a 2nd pairing.

If things transpire as such, we will have the following D:

Matheson/Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj/Harris - Barron

Engstrom, Kovacevic

It certainly has the potential to be one of the deeper and better Ds in the League, IMO.

With that as a backbone, the quality of the G won't need to be as high and puck movement will definitely be the order of the day, improving the production of our forward core.

GO HABS GO!

 

[1909]

One thing here….the insults are evil and stupid and uncalled for towards the kid. But that stupid management created expectations. By not saying that they wouldn’t pick him. By meeting him. For Pete’s sake, every reason they gave, there no 1 on 1 meeting that would have changed it. I don’t care about strategy, read the f***ing room.

Why would they had ? Are other teams drafting before or after them (except Chicago of course) told who they gonna or not draft ? I was surprised to see Anaheim draft Carlsson instead of Fantilli. And why did SJ or Arizona who needs as much star power as possible to re-build , went for Smith and a Russian d-man ?

We all knew from the start that Habs WOULD NOT draft Michkov. It was written on the wall.

 

[99GoHabsGo99]

The people reaching out to the kid directly are absolute morons and should be shipped out of the fanbase.

Listen, I'm as pissed as the next guy we didn't take Michkov, Be angry at management not the innocent kid FFS!

He just had his dream moment and this should be a happy time and you selfish assholes are ruining it.

If you are pissed point your anger at the management group thats the only people who deserve it.

 

[Rapala]

Except the Eagles didn't pick a QB high. They got Hurts late. So they chose to focus on other things high, like David Reinbacher (Carter is DL). So the Eagles would endorse the Reinbacher selection.

I'm a Bills fan. Yes, I do accept condolences...

49er's here.
Where was Purdy picked again?
I too accept condolences.

 

[ReHabs]

I think they bet on Reinbacher because his offensive potential is still rough; with Michkov, you know what you get. Now if we have informations about Michkov not wanting to play in Canada, the Reinbacher pick makes even more sense. I guess you can also say Reinbacher's contracts might bring more value if both succeed, and it would have been harder to retain Michkov.

They specifically said they don't have the full picture with Michkov (perhaps due to lack of interest on the Habs' part-- they certainly didn't seem interested).

I think the Reinbacher pick makes perfect sense: they didn't rate Michkov (and his upside) as much as Reinbacher (and his upside).

The question some of us have is why do they not rate the scoring forward if they think Reinbacher is only a 2D. You don't tank and then draft Jeff Petry with the 5OA, so what the hell is going on?

 

[Habricot]

It's getting better and better, imagine drafting a player that high and expecting a #2D, who can't run the powerplay... Is that supposed to give fans confidence in that pick ?

That is exactly the rigth thing to do..lower expectation to give him better chance of success. The same is said of Ghule yet i am sure he could do it.

 

[GHJimmy]

"Hopefully, he will be a #1D, who can play in every situation and log significant minutes" Would have been fine, if he really thinks that...

CONTEXT:

There’s context missing. He also implied that on teams that consider shut down D to be their style of play he would be D1, and he said that he doesn’t really like the D1 / D2 concept because he seems to think it’s flawed.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

One thing here….the insults are evil and stupid and uncalled for towards the kid. But that stupid management created expectations. By not saying that they wouldn’t pick him. By meeting him. For Pete’s sake, every reason they gave, there no 1 on 1 meeting that would have changed it. I don’t care about strategy, read the f***ing room.

WTF????????? Management didn't do anything wrong. It's a draft. Fans get excited, we get it, but management can't hold every crazy Habs fan's hand and read them bedtime stories. People who flip out over a hockey draft selection have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Scriptor]

Absolutely. A young defenceman with top-4 potential that can stick in the NHL has huge value. We’ve got the prospects and we’ve got lots of minutes to pass around. I don’t want to be too optimistic, but it looks like we could have a couple to spare.

Reinbacher apparently has a floor as a top-4 D. Worst case scenario, you are still set with a top-4 , shutdown, RHD for 15 years. Not too shabby.

However, considering how quickly he progressed in only one year and the strong defensive fundamentals to his game that would allow him to progress offensively, the odds of Reinbacher reaching his upside as a top pairing RHD are pretty good, IMO.

It's a bit like with Guhle who, as a solid shutdown D, was able to round out his offensive game.

I would rather Reinbacher be paired up with Hutson and Guhle with Mailloux. to exploit the offensive games of Hutson and Mailloux while still being staunch, defensively, but, given the game situation, and on the PK, Guhle and Reinbacher could form an extremely solid shutdown pair, IMO.