Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[badfish]

The Juulsen analogy is a weird one, because it's not like injuries prevented him from achieving what is typical of a late first round pick. If you take off the rose-coloured glasses, there's nothing about Juulsens two post-draft years (which were mostly healthy) that would suggest he would be more than a #4-6 defenseman at the NHL level. The injury bug certainly took hold of him, but that is essentially what he has turned into - a depth NHL defenseman. Very typical for a #26th overall pick.

I don't think because Juulsen was injured and eventually turned into a depth defenseman that we can expect Reinbacher will eventually turn into a depth defenseman. The reality is many of the things that made him a nearly consensus top-10 pick still apply - the skill, the mentality, etc. If anything this injury may delay him from achieving what he was going to become, but it doesn't condemn him to eventually being a depth defenseman.

 

[River Meadow]

It's a never ending nightmare with this guy what a disaster

Habs fans dream about Smith/MM all year.
Price fumble the announcement.
D+1 in Kloten his production is cut in half and he goes -15
D+2 1 bad pre-season game in Toronto,
Season ending Injury 5 seconds into game 2

Well, when you put it like that...

 

[Beige Van]

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What was the issue with Juolevi?

Wasn't he just slow?

I mean in the sense that he was a slightly overdrafted defenseman that was picked ahead of highly regarded forward talents (M Tkachuk, Keller), and had multiple injuries early in his career that negativity
affected his development.

 

[junyab]

I'd say oh well at least they tried for the boom.

What's the boom with David? Even Hughes said he was most likely a 2nd D.

He was referring to 2nd PP D, not 2nd line D. SMH

"Probably a 2D. I'm not sure he's gonna run a first powerplay in the NHL."

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

The Juulsen analogy is a weird one, because it's not like injuries prevented him from achieving what is typical of a late first round pick. If you take off the rose-coloured glasses, there's nothing about Juulsens two post-draft years (which were mostly healthy) that would suggest he would be more than a #4-6 defenseman at the NHL level. The injury bug certainly took hold of him, but that is essentially what he has turned into - a depth NHL defenseman. Very typical for a #26th overall pick.

I don't think because Juulsen was injured and eventually turned into a depth defenseman that we can expect Reinbacher will eventually turn into a depth defenseman. The reality is many of the things that made him a nearly consensus top-10 pick still apply - the skill, the mentality, etc. If anything this injury may delay him from achieving what he was going to become, but it doesn't condemn him to eventually being a depth defenseman.

I think there's legitimate concern that repeated knee injuries will affect his mobility moving forward which is really his selling point right now.

If that gets compromised I think his projection falls from top 4 D to bottom pairing.

 

[CanadienShark]

Ouch.

Please stop telling it like it is.

It hurts.

Your Bruin is showing yet again.

 

[Jaynki]

Buddy Heiskanen is a top 5 in the league defender, and I'm sure they'd at least strongly consider it. Reinbacher aint Heiskanen.

It's funny that you're using draft blunders such as Levshunov at 2, Benson and Caufields position as proof.

This just proves that teams are run by buffoons too.

Panarin and Kucherov are top 5 concession winger too. Michkov aint it too my dear.

 

[junyab]

I think that pretty unambiguously means a 2D (top pairing defenseman, but not one that drives the play - see Brent Seabrook).

Agree to disagree.

 

[Raistlin]

Man, I'm starting to get Juolevi vibes from Reinbacher now. I hope I'm wrong.

now that you mention it.... this is kinda how it started for him... after surgeries, he lost his ability to pivot quickly, and thats that.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Iv watched the hit like 20 times now and I dont see where or how he got hurt. I hope he recovers quickly. kid looks awesome.

 

[overlords]

Is that true though? Michkov is outperforming the two you mentioned at the same age, and with 2nd line minutes and 1st PP duties will likely outscore Kucherov's rookie season (and maybe even his sophomore one).

Reinbacher isn't even tracking as well as Josi who was his only comparable from his league who became a top 10 D, and he was a 2nd round pick who was a year younger in his D+1.

Is there anything suggesting Reinbacher has the projection of a top 10 D beyond pure, unfiltered copium?

It took Josi until his d+1 to match rein's draft year. Rein was already looking like a 0.5ppg d in laval last year after the kloten fiasco, whereas Josi only got to the AHL in his D+3 to put up 40 in 70. Rein would probably have put up similar numbers or just below this year had he stayed healthy. Those numbers also track with Seider, btw, who is closer to the type of D I'd expect Rein to become, minus the clapper.

I get people being annoyed with the injuries, but we're entering historical revisionist territory, here.

 

[River Meadow]

Iv watched the hit like 20 times now and I dont see where or how he got hurt. I hope he recovers quickly. kid looks awesome.

He got hit, and instead of just eating the hit, landing on his ass, and getting back up, he instead tried to stay up and balance himself with his foot, which caused strain on his knee.

now that you mention it.... this is kinda how it started for him... after surgeries, he lost his ability to pivot quickly, and thats that.

New fear unlocked

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He got hit, and instead of just eating the hit, landing on his ass, and getting back up, he instead tried to stay up and balance himself with his foot, which caused strain on his knee.

jesus, the human body can get hurt so easily. I just dont see how that takes 6months to heal. really hope he recovers faster than expected and can continue his development.

I also think Reinbacher will be fine even missing some development time, he looks like a good Dman. might be a blessing in disguise. very well might grab another top 3-5 pick

 

[River Meadow]

jesus, the human body can get hurt so easily. I just dont see how that takes 6months to heal. really hope he recovers faster than expected and can continue his development.

I also think Reinbacher will be fine even missing some development time, he looks like a good Dman. might be a blessing in disguise. very well might grab another top 3-5 pick

Fair, but we're talking two big strong athletes on skates, when those two collide, it's more understandable.

I just hope he has no residual damage from this and he heals 100% fully.....

I don't think it'll change our draft spot as he probably gonna be in Laval most or all of the year anyways, IMO.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

jesus, the human body can get hurt so easily. I just dont see how that takes 6months to heal. really hope he recovers faster than expected and can continue his development.

I also think Reinbacher will be fine even missing some development time, he looks like a good Dman. might be a blessing in disguise. very well might grab another top 3-5 pick

Artie on the Habs board, one step closer to conversation let’s go

 

[Balthazar]

might be a blessing in disguise. very well might grab another top 3-5 pick

Statistically Suzuki has around 5 years of prime left and there's no 1C to take his place within the org. They can't keep kicking the can the road.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Fair, but we're talking two big strong athletes on skates, when those two collide, it's more understandable.

I just hope he has no residual damage from this and he heals 100% fully.....

I don't think it'll change our draft spot as he probably gonna be in Laval most or all of the year anyways, IMO.

I didnt really think about that, I thought he was in a good position to grab a spot on the Habs. either way man I think he will be fine. he's young he will heal quickly they will take care of him. got alot of natural skill so his development shouldnt be effected too much. only like 20

 

[overlords]

Statistically Suzuki has around 5 years of prime left and there's no 1C to take his place within the org. They can't keep kicking the can the road.

Demi can play C and Hage is projecting as a good #2. We've also got assets up the wazoo for trades. It's not a huge concern.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

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Sad news for Reinbacher and the Habs. I wish him well.

 

[River Meadow]

Statistically Suzuki has around 5 years of prime left and there's no 1C to take his place within the org. They can't keep kicking the can the road.

We should be competitive in 3-4 years.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Statistically Suzuki has around 5 years of prime left and there's no 1C to take his place within the org. They can't keep kicking the can the road.

I think 5 years is on the low end. depending how much he likes to go to the gym and stuff he should be more than fine, look at JT Miller as an example. breaks out at like 29 in a big way and still rolling. Brent Burns I swear broke out big time as he was close to 30. so that really varies, like Vatanen as an example didnt like to work out and his natural skill only kept him in the NHL till like 30. then u got freaks of nature like Phil Kessel who never works out and eats like shit, plays strong in his mid-30s then he fell off big time

 

[Garbageyuk]

He got hit, and instead of just eating the hit, landing on his ass, and getting back up, he instead tried to stay up and balance himself with his foot, which caused strain on his knee.

That isn’t what happened. Go back and watch it in slow motion. If you look, he actually injures himself on the zone entry prior to any contact - he drags his left foot as he’s coming to a stop, bending his knee at an extremely awkward angle as he enters the zone. The hit, which was to his right side, was coincidental, and he falls because he was already injured.

 

[River Meadow]

That isn’t what happened. Go back and watch it in slow motion. If you look, he actually injured himself on the zone entry prior to any contact - he drags his left foot as he’s coming to a stop, bending his knee at an extremely awkward angle as he enters the zone. The hit, which was to his right side, was coincidental, and he falls because he was already injured.

So he injured himself 100%, just skating?

 

[Garbageyuk]

So he injured himself 100%, just skating?

That’s what it looks like to me.

 

[Balthazar]

I think 5 years is on the low end. depending how much he likes to go to the gym and stuff he should be more than fine, look at JT Miller as an example. breaks out at like 29 in a big way and still rolling. Brent Burns I swear broke out big time as he was close to 30. so that really varies, like Vatanen as an example didnt like to work out and his natural skill only kept him in the NHL till like 30. then u got freaks of nature like Phil Kessel who never works out and eats like shit, plays strong in his mid-30s then he fell off big time

The reason you can name these players is because there are few of them. Players generally start declining at around 30 and most of them are out of the league by 35.