Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[Habs 4 Life]

Sucks that he will a lose a whole year of development. Last year he was on that awful team and now this year is a lost season.

Indeed, this is by far what sucks the most, and going forward as well the fact that he will have had this type of injury already at such a young age.

 

[Maitz]

He can start rehab in February, it's not a full year lost, at worst it's in March, he can see between 8-15 games and maybe playoffs

 

[mouser]

For the curious: presuming Montreal places Reinbacher on IR to start the season, it will be considered SOIR (Season Opening IR).

Players on SOIR have a pro-rated cap hit based on the % of days they spent in the NHL the prior season. They are also paid a blended salary based on the % of days in the NHL.

For example a SOIR player with 20% of the time in the NHL the prior season would have a cap hit of 20% his normal AAV. And would be paid on a rate equal to 20% of his NHL salary and 80% of his AHL salary.


With zero NHL days last season, that means Reinbacher would carry a $0 cap hit while on SOIR and be paid his AHL salary.

 

[Michoulicious]

Terrible... In a crucial developmental year.

 

[Beige Van]

Man, I'm starting to get Juolevi vibes from Reinbacher now. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I don't care what the pro-Michkov posters are saying. People forget it wasn't a guarantee he was coming over, there were rumours he wouldn't meet or sign with certain teams, and is an apparent POS.

It's just too bad Reinbacher has to deal with this.

You can’t project potential future injuries that haven’t happened yet at the draft table. This is just super unfortunate. Slafkovsky missed half a season, Caufield half a season, Dach a full season, Reinbacher now a season, Guhle constantly hurt. I think management has done a relatively good job so far, but nothing is more frustrating in a rebuild then not getting to see your young players grow during the losing process.

 

[Natey]

While we are all upset at what happened to Laine it is just as bad (i would say worse) with how this will affect Reinbacher's development. He is part of the future core and losing a year of development is concerning.

I do find it quite funny that people are saying "poor Laine" while calling Reinbacher a bust and trashing him. Laine has, at this point, done nothing for us. At least Reinbacher has been in the organization for a couple years.

Will he turn into Ryan Murray? Let's hope not. Murray would have been one of the best defenseman of all-time, as far as I'm concerned. But couldn't stay healthy. But I'm not going to write of Reinbacher as injury prone on a freak injury. Fingers crossed this is his last long-term injury.

 

[Ajhccwrs]

You win playoff / stanley cup games with players of RBs mold/attitude. You get the occasional highlight with players of michkovs mold/attitude. I'll take playoff and stanley cups all day long

 

[Wats]

I mean at least it isn't concussions like Juulsen but sucks to see his development really impacted in back to back years. Especially going to feel bad watching the Flyers guy while he recovers and maybe get some career advancement this season.

 

[Wats]

I do find it quite funny that people are saying "poor Laine" while calling Reinbacher a bust and trashing him. Laine has, at this point, done nothing for us. At least Reinbacher has been in the organization for a couple years.

Will he turn into Ryan Murray? Let's hope not. Murray would have been one of the best defenseman of all-time, as far as I'm concerned. But couldn't stay healthy. But I'm not going to write of Reinbacher as injury prone on a freak injury. Fingers crossed this is his last long-term injury.

I think it's less that he got injured and more he looks to be the worst player taken in top 15 that draft so far.

 

[Andrei79]

Terrible... In a crucial developmental year.

This is exactly why I'm bummed out, especially since he looked so promising in Laval last year and looked stronger/faster this year. It's insane how unlucky this franchise has been.

I think it's less that he got injured and more he looks to be the worst player taken in top 15 that draft so far.

He definitely did not look like that in Laval.

 

[Wats]

This is exactly why I'm bummed out, especially since he looked so promising in Laval last year and looked stronger/faster this year. It's insane how unlucky this franchise has been.


He definitely did not look like that in Laval.

Here's hoping he somehow builds of those few weeks and development camp

 

[Jaynki]

I'd say oh well at least they tried for the boom.

What's the boom with David? Even Hughes said he was most likely a 2nd D.

Top pairing RHD is as much as a boom as a star winger.

We have beaten this horse to death but a big sized RHD who can defend against the rushes and consistently win his defensive assignments against enemy team opposition is the most in-demand NHL asset along with a 1C.

 

[Mrb1p]

You win playoff / stanley cup games with players of RBs mold/attitude. You get the occasional highlight with players of michkovs mold/attitude. I'll take playoff and stanley cups all day long

Yep, Patrick Kane is a total loser and not the 2nd most clutch player of his generation.

Neither is Kucherov.

Top pairing RHD is as much as a boom as a star winger.

We have beaten this horse to death but a big sized RHD who can defend against the rushes and consistently win his defensive assignments against enemy team opposition is the most in-demand NHL asset along with a 1C.

No its not. Nobody would trade Kucherov or Pastrnak for Gustav Forsling.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think it's less that he got injured and more he looks to be the worst player taken in top 15 that draft so far.

Impossible as Arizona gave us the gift of being an absolute dumpster fire and picked both Simashev and But in the top 15.

As a fan of Reinbacher though, i would lie if I said he separated himself from anyone in the top 15...

 

[Hinterland]

I think it's less that he got injured and more he looks to be the worst player taken in top 15 that draft so far.

Does he?
Simashev scored just 11 points last season...in 80 KHL games. Reinbacher scored 11 points for a terrible Kloten team alone. In 35 games.
Michkov was chased outta St.Petersburg once again and got benched and scratched in Sochi as well.
Danielson did not meet expectations in the WHL...and I say that as a big fan of his.
Dvorsky was benched and scratched in Oskarshamn, returned to junior hockey just a few weeks after saying that he's done playing vs kids and ready to play vs men.
But had a very up and down season in the KHL...was mostly a non factor.
Yager, Wood, Willander and Leonard played good seasons I guess but nothing too crazy either.
The only one to really exceed expectations was Benson but personally, I have my doubts regarding his upside.

 

[MasterD]

Cole can't score like he used to, he isn't that scoring dynamo we remember (for now)
Newhook kinda sucks (for now)
Slaf is not near his peak
Suzuki is good and he's the type of player who should remain quite good for a long time.

If what you're saying is true, then it's too bad, because our core just isn't good enough yet.

It's pretty obvious our forwards aren't good enough. If Demidov is as good as some believe, and Slaf gets to his top potential, and Laine comes back (probably next year) and can produce near ppg, then yes, maybe we can go somewhere. Otherwise, no. We have boat anchors on the 3rd and 4th line eating away the cap space.

On the D side I think the upside is there for a very good top 4, but we'll have to see just how good they can be.

 

[Jaynki]

No its not. Nobody would trade Kucherov or Pastrnak for Gustav Forsling.

Nor would Dallas trade Heiskanen for either.

Why has Chicago preferred Levshunov over Bedard elite linemate for the entirety of their career?

Why were 3 RHD picked above any LHD in the 2024 draft?

Why was Nemec picked above Cooley and Wright?

How is Toronto quest going for a this top pairing RHD? Best they had is Tanev and they had to throw six years even tho he is 34YO.

Why do Brett Pesce, Matt Roy and Tanev received bigger contract than Marchessault?

And we are not talking about top pairing archetype like Reinbacher. We are talking mainly about stable top 4D who don't have any offense.

Finally, where were Benson and Caufield picked? Catton? Jarvis? What was Savoie value on the trade market? These archetype are always available in every draft and often outside the top 10.

A top pairing RHD is the hardest asset to find. On the opposite, if they are star-level forward, small winger holds marginal value and you can find them each and every year for fringe assets.

 

[BLONG7]

Insane that we are dealing with injuries like this again, already this season. What a total bummer. Reinbacher probably not gonna see game time for a calendar year.

Our fans have PTSD about our injuries rrinse and repeat...................Brutal.

 

[Tyson]

I do find it quite funny that people are saying "poor Laine" while calling Reinbacher a bust and trashing him. Laine has, at this point, done nothing for us. At least Reinbacher has been in the organization for a couple years.

Will he turn into Ryan Murray? Let's hope not. Murray would have been one of the best defenseman of all-time, as far as I'm concerned. But couldn't stay healthy. But I'm not going to write of Reinbacher as injury prone on a freak injury. Fingers crossed this is his last long-term injury.

Well said

 

[Wats]

Does he?
Simashev scored just 11 points last season...in 80 KHL games. Reinbacher scored 11 points for a terrible Kloten team alone. In 35 games.
Michkov was chased outta St.Petersburg once again and got benched and scratched in Sochi as well.
Danielson did not meet expectations in the WHL...and I say that as a big fan of his.
Dvorsky was benched and scratched in Oskarshamn, returned to junior hockey just a few weeks after saying that he's done playing vs kids and ready to play vs men.
But had a very up and down season in the KHL...was mostly a non factor.
Yager, Wood, Willander and Leonard played good seasons I guess but nothing too crazy either.
The only one to really exceed expectations was Benson but personally, I have my doubts regarding his upside.

Well I don't think it's a sure thing but my thoughts are draft+1 and 2 will likely fall below the rest of the pack with the injuries. It is what it is, can't predict future.

 

[Mrb1p]

Nor would Dallas trade Heiskanen for either.

Why has Chicago preferred Levshunov over Bedard elite linemate for the entirety of their career?

Why were 3 RHD picked above any LHD in the 2024 draft?

Why was Nemec picked above Cooley and Wright?

How is Toronto quest going for a this top pairing RHD? Best they had is Tanev and they had to throw six years even tho he is 34YO.

Why do Brett Pesce, Matt Roy and Tanev received bigger contract than Marchessault?

And we are not talking about top pairing archetype like Reinbacher. We are talking mainly about stable top 4D who don't have any offense.

Finally, where were Benson and Caufield picked? Catton? Jarvis? What was Savoie value on the trade market? These archetype are always available in every draft and often outside the top 10.

A top pairing RHD is the hardest asset to find. On the opposite, if they are star-level forward, small winger holds marginal value and you can find them each and every year for fringe assets.

Buddy Heiskanen is a top 5 in the league defender, and I'm sure they'd at least strongly consider it. Reinbacher aint Heiskanen.

It's funny that you're using draft blunders such as Levshunov at 2, Benson and Caufields position as proof.

This just proves that teams are run by buffoons too.

 

[junyab]

You’re so sensitive; learn how to handle different opinions without excluding people. He has every right to be irate that we passed on Michkov.

With that being said, I hope Reinbacher bounces back.

There's sharing an opinion and just plain b---ing and complaining half a dozen times on each page.

You can’t project potential future injuries that haven’t happened yet at the draft table. This is just super unfortunate. Slafkovsky missed half a season, Caufield half a season, Dach a full season, Reinbacher now a season, Guhle constantly hurt. I think management has done a relatively good job so far, but nothing is more frustrating in a rebuild then not getting to see your young players grow during the losing process.

Not sure why you were replying to my post. I didn't say anything about Reinbacher's previous injury history.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Buddy Heiskanen is a top 5 in the league defender, and I'm sure they'd at least strongly consider it. Reinbacher aint Heiskanen.

It's funny that you're using draft blunders such as Levshunov at 2, Benson and Caufields position as proof.

This just proves that teams are run by buffoons too.

Funny thing is, there's also gonna be drafts where RD are undervalued. Look at 2018, do Bouchard and Dobson fall that far in a redraft?

This is why reaching for need is so dumb. Leaguewide scarcities change all the time, just get the best prospect and trade redundancies. You might not get full value, but you'll always get better value than reaching for inferior players.

 

[River Meadow]

Let's not be as soft as the current Habs team. I'm with Oz on this, and wish there was more thick-skin folks and free speech not only on this board, but in society in general.

Bustbacher is quite ridiculous though. Way too early to label him a bust, but I do understand the frustration of the last few days affecting the judgment of a few members.

I couldn't agree more on the free speech+thick skin comments, and just for clarification, the Bustbacher nickname wasn't meant to be taken literally as if he's an actual bust. This has been clarified before a few times. It's just a cute nickname, though at this point I am hoping it does not become a self-fulling prophecy.. which it should NOT if his knee issues fully resolve. His skating will be a huge part of his game and he can become a smooth operator in the mold of a Jay Bouwmeester (hopefully)