Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[Jabba11]

Demidov has a relatively easy path to the Calder next year.

Don’t jinx us dammit!

 

[River Meadow]

I am still baffled to this day of his selection. I mean our whole rebuild is almost solely relying on him becoming a dominant defenseman otherwise it could be deamed a failure. Using as much of an important asset (knowing how it unfolded too) to a player without impact would be a huge blunder.

With all the players available at the time of his selection, given his stats at the time, playing in a men's league, etc. I believe they assumed he would just continue to progress and be dominant when all is said and done.

His progression hasn't been linear after being drafted that's for sure.

We can only hope for the best in the long run...

 

[badfish]

I am still baffled to this day of his selection. I mean our whole rebuild is almost solely relying on him becoming a dominant defenseman otherwise it could be deamed a failure. Using as much of an important asset (knowing how it unfolded too) to a player without impact would be a huge blunder.

If our entire rebuild is relying on identifying a dominant RH defenseman wouldn't that suggest he was the right pick? Because this type of player is probably available less often than even #1 centers are. You have to draft them and they typically are only found high in the draft.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

If our entire rebuild is relying on identifying a dominant RH defenseman wouldn't that suggest he was the right pick? Because this type of player is probably available less often than even #1 centers are. You have to draft them and they typically are only found high in the draft.

I agree it's very rare to find that type of player, I just don't see Reinbacher becoming that type of player and never have. He'll be a valuable part of our blueline and a good partner for Hutson but I don't see him being that all around dominant 1D, more of a 3D.

 

[Benstheman]

I agree it's very rare to find that type of player, I just don't see Reinbacher becoming that type of player and never have. He'll be a valuable part of our blueline and a good partner for Hutson but I don't see him being that all around dominant 1D, more of a 3D.

If he becomes a 3D, i'm ok with the pick.

 

[Tyson]

If he becomes a 3D, i'm ok with the pick.

Halfway through next season he will be a regular.

 

[Benstheman]

Halfway through next season he will be a regular.

Absolutely. 20 some games in the A to get his swag back and after that, second pair with Hutson.

 

[Tyson]

Absolutely. 20 some games in the A to get his swag back and after that, second pair with Hutson.

He really impressed me in that 11 game stint in Laval. He stepped right in and was excellent. That showed me that he is a legitimate prospect.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I am still baffled to this day of his selection. I mean our whole rebuild is almost solely relying on him becoming a dominant defenseman otherwise it could be deamed a failure. Using as much of an important asset (knowing how it unfolded too) to a player without impact would be a huge blunder.

I don’t see this at all. His floor would still significantly help this team since we’re so weak on the right side. I can’t see him being worse than a #4 RD.

Though many didn’t trust his offensive stats that came close to Josi’s in his draft year. His stint in Laval should’ve showed doubters he has plenty of hidden offensive potential. All he has to do is stop getting beaten off the rush. Everything else in his game would radically transform our team.

The only question mark is health. We have tons of potential firepower up front. I don’t see how drafting a Michkov would make us that much better. RDs are the biggest holes next to centres (which could be fine if a certain someone finds his game again).

 

[teamfirst]

I don’t see how drafting a Michkov would make us that much better. RDs are the biggest holes next to centres (which could be fine if a certain someone finds his game again).

We don't need to be blind just beceause our management decided to not draft him, Michkov would already be our 2nd best point per games players in his rookie year and i still think that Reinbacher will be a good D for us.

But man it would have been so much fun to watch Demidov and Michkov on this roster next season.

 

[WeThreeKings]

We don't need to be blind just beceause our management decided to not draft him, Michkov would already be our 2nd best point per games players in his rookie year and i still think that Reinbacher will be a good D for us.

But man it would have been so much fun to watch Demidov and Michkov on this roster next season.

I think what he is saying is that..

Demidov comes over, we still have Laine.. is the delta between Michkov and Caufield, Laine at current performance, Demidov and Slafkovsky large enough, that it would make us significantly better than how Reinbacher projects to improve our right side defense long term?

 

[badfish]

If he comes back and helps Laval out on a deep playoff run I think it will open some eyes. I agree with @Tyson his games at the end of last season in Laval made me less concerned about his decline in production with Kloten last year. Not that I think what Reinbacher potentially brings will be measured in points anyway.

 

[teamfirst]

I think what he is saying is that..

Demidov comes over, we still have Laine.. is the delta between Michkov and Caufield, Laine at current performance, Demidov and Slafkovsky large enough, that it would make us significantly better than how Reinbacher projects to improve our right side defense long term?

There is another way to look at it, if you have a lot of good scoring type of players.....you can use one of them in a trade to fill wathever is your need

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

We don't need to be blind just beceause our management decided to not draft him, Michkov would already be our 2nd best point per games players in his rookie year and i still think that Reinbacher will be a good D for us.

But man it would have been so much fun to watch Demidov and Michkov on this roster next season.

Our winger situation looks amazing. Laine, Demidov, Slaf and Caufield in the top 6.

Who do we have on our roster or in our prospect pool to play RD if we didn’t draft Reinbacher?

 

[WeThreeKings]

There is another way to look at it, if you have a lot of good scoring type of players.....you can use one of them in a trade to fill wathever is your need

You could but there's a shortage of RD out there, which is why teams were tripping over themselves to try to Reinbacher in our draft and why Chicago took Levshunov at 2 last year.

Caufield doesn't get you a top pairing RD. Laine won't get you one. Maybe Slaf would but then you are taking a lot of size out of our top 6 and making it very small with Caufield-Michkov-Suzuki-Demidov.

 

[teamfirst]

Our winger situation looks amazing. Laine, Demidov, Slaf and Caufield in the top 6.

Who do we have on our roster or in our prospect pool to play RD if we didn’t draft Reinbacher?

Look up one post.

I want to be clear that i think reinbacher will be one day a good serviceable RD, but guy's like Michkov dont come often as far as i'm concern,...... if you find yourself with a surplus of high offensive talent you are in a very good spot to trade one for that blue chip RD prospect, even trade for an establish 1 or 2 RD

 

[teamfirst]

You could but there's a shortage of RD out there, which is why teams were tripping over themselves to try to Reinbacher in our draft and why Chicago took Levshunov at 2 last year.

Caufield doesn't get you a top pairing RD. Laine won't get you one. Maybe Slaf would but then you are taking a lot of size out of our top 6 and making it very small with Caufield-Michkov-Suzuki-Demidov.

Are you sure about Caufield......potential 50 goal scorer sure can be traded for a 1RD imo......at the very least if Michkov become what he seems to be right now he could very well fetch you that stud 1 RD

 

[WeThreeKings]

Are you sure about Caufield......potential 50 goal scorer sure can be traded for a 1RD imo......at the very least if Michkov become what he seems to be right now he could very well fetch you that stud 1 RD

I am sure a 5'8" winger wouldn't go for a top pair RD; and if we are bashing the Reinbacher pick just to go around and trade Michkov for a different version of him, can't we see that it's a completely acceptable pick given the value of those types of RD?

I would've loved to see them take the gamble on Michkov, they didn't, but they didn't go and just select Ryan Leonard. They went with a harder to find player and likely one of the few chances they'd have to get it.

It certainly beats the hope of maybe having a surplus you can turn into trading for a RD. Especially when there's always likely to be heavy competition to get that RD from other teams, it's a need for 80% of the league.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Look up one post.

I want to be clear that i think reinbacher will be one day a good serviceable RD, but guy's like Michkov dont come often as far as i'm concern,...... if you find yourself with a surplus of high offensive talent you are in a very good spot to trade one for that blue chip RD prospect, even trade for an establish 1 or 2 RD

We found a better or at least an as good Michkov the very next draft.

Michkov is possibly a better Caufield. Say we trade Caufield and replace him with Michkov, I don’t think that radically improves our top 6. Caufield is looking excellent at the moment btw.

A good serviceable D is Reinbacher’s floor. Not his ceiling. Like WTK said RD are rare as hell much more rare than wingers.

We trade Caufield and we get I don’t know…a Reinbacher back? lol. So we just skipped a step lol. And again, maybe we don’t because of how rare they are.

 

[Kosseca]

I am sure a 5'8" winger wouldn't go for a top pair RD; and if we are bashing the Reinbacher pick just to go around and trade Michkov for a different version of him, can't we see that it's a completely acceptable pick given the value of those types of RD?

I would've loved to see them take the gamble on Michkov, they didn't, but they didn't go and just select Ryan Leonard. They went with a harder to find player and likely one of the few chances they'd have to get it.

It certainly beats the hope of maybe having a surplus you can turn into trading for a RD. Especially when there's always likely to be heavy competition to get that RD from other teams, it's a need for 80% of the league.

I would add that if MTL draft Michkov in 2023, they most likely dont pick Demidov in 2024. 2024 was a dman-top heavy draft and MTL would have enter the draft with a glaring need for a RD. Odds are that they would have move down or just pick a D in lieu of taking Demidov.

So the Q is would MTL be better off with Michkov + 2024 Dman or with Reinbacher + Demidov?

Odds are that this is a wash.

 

[BLONG7]

Halfway through next season he will be a regular.

He sure wasn't The Sexy pick, but I am willing to trust our organizations ability to land good prospects.....................
No one on here talked about Hutson/Fowler/Hage etc so..................................got to trust the process guys.
It's a brutal turn of events that he got a 5-6 month recovery from a tough injury, but I think everyone is going to love this kid in a couple of years.

 

[teamfirst]

I am sure a 5'8" winger wouldn't go for a top pair RD; and if we are bashing the Reinbacher pick just to go around and trade Michkov for a different version of him, can't we see that it's a completely acceptable pick given the value of those types of RD?

Not sure about that..... 5'8'' or not if he becomes a 40-50 goals scorer like i think he will he could fetch a 1 or 2 establish RD, mind you if he becomes that we may want to keep him, all i'm saying is stacking elite forwards with picks is also a good strategy you should never go with needs in the draft

Also i think ''bashing the pick'' is a little to hard regarding my post.

I would've loved to see them take the gamble on Michkov, they didn't, but they didn't go and just select Ryan Leonard. They went with a harder to find player and likely one of the few chances they'd have to get it.

Me too

It certainly beats the hope of maybe having a surplus you can turn into trading for a RD. Especially when there's always likely to be heavy competition to get that RD from other teams, it's a need for 80% of the league.

Humm, i'd have go with the Hope Michkov becomes a star forward players for us before the hope Reinbacher becomes the stud 1 RD that we so much want, but hey that's just me

Again do i have to mentionned it again before other posters accuse me of bashing

I THINK REINBACHER WILL BE A GOOD RD FOR US IN THE FUTURE

We found a better or at least an as good Michkov the very next draft.

Michkov is possibly a better Caufield. Say we trade Caufield and replace him with Michkov, I don’t think that radically improves our top 6. Caufield is looking excellent at the moment btw.

A good serviceable D is Reinbacher’s floor. Not his ceiling. Like WTK said RD are rare as hell much more rare than wingers.

We trade Caufield and we get I don’t know…a Reinbacher back? lol. So we just skipped a step lol. And again, maybe we don’t because of how rare they are.

This excuse will never be good enough for me

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Not sure about that..... 5'8'' or not if he becomes a 40-50 goals scorer like i think he will he could fetch a 1 or 2 establish RD, mind you if he becomes that we may want to keep him, all i'm saying is stacking elite forwards with picks is also a good strategy you should never go with needs in the draft

Also i think ''bashing the pick'' is a little to hard regarding my post.



Me too


Humm, i'd have go with the Hope Michkov becomes a star forward players for us before the hope Reinbacher becomes the stud 1 RD that we so much want, but hey that's just me

Again do i have to mentionned it again before other posters accuse me of bashing

I THINK REINBACHER WILL BE A GOOD RD FOR US IN THE FUTURE



This excuse will never be good enough for me

What if Michkov blew his interviews like was speculated? If Reinbacher becomes a top pairing D you can’t still be that pissed.

The end of the day our winger situation is good with the potential of being fantastic. I could see if we didn’t end up with Laine and Demidov. Fine. But we got two guys who are potentially better than Michkov in the end.

To me all’s well that end’s well.

 

[morhilane]

I would add that if MTL draft Michkov in 2023, they most likely dont pick Demidov in 2024. 2024 was a dman-top heavy draft and MTL would have enter the draft with a glaring need for a RD. Odds are that they would have move down or just pick a D in lieu of taking Demidov.

So the Q is would MTL be better off with Michkov + 2024 Dman or with Reinbacher + Demidov?

Odds are that this is a wash.

Apparently the Habs were high on Yakemchuk, who went #7.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Apparently the Habs were high on Yakemchuk, who went #7.

I don't remember that. Among dmen, Dickinson and Buium were linked to the habs.