Player Discussion David Quinn: Part V

[duhmetreE]

All of that is true to varying degrees. A good amount of it will get cleared up as the roster matures and gets better awareness on where to be, regardless of specific gameplan. They are slow to act because they are slow to anticipate, generally.

You mean running into teammates in transition is not how it's drawn up? We have a knack for staying 'covered' and not getting open. Poor at creating space or finding space.

Watching all the top teams, they live in the middle of the ice. It's a rare occasion for us but when we do, it usually ends up good.

 

[Black Aces]

Buch seems to slip and mention Quinn had a positive test. If so, he would be out a minimum of two weeks.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Where is the Knoblauch thread?

 

[LOFIN]

Buch seems to slip and mention Quinn had a positive test. If so, he would be out a minimum of two weeks.

That's a damn shame isn't it

 

[PuckLuck3043]

That's a damn shame isn't it

 

[LOFIN]

Note, of course hope all is well regarding his health and everyone who is going through with this shit.

 

[NYR]

Not that I'd necessarily want him moving forward (I think he's perfect for Hartford) but Knoblauch has been 10X the coach in just a few games over DQ in his 3 years here.

Is that even debatable?

Hell.. He's even rolling DQ's trash system and he's still better at it LOL

 

[haveandare]

Not that I'd necessarily want him moving forward (I think he's perfect for Hartford) but Knoblauch has been 10X the coach in just a few games over DQ in his 3 years here.

Is that even debatable?

Hell.. He's even rolling DQ's trash system and he's still better at it LOL

Based on what?

 

[NYR]

Based on what?

Based on "immediate" results.
Do I really need to get into it or we just going to apply some common sense here?

 

[aufheben]

Based on "immediate" results.
Do I really need to get into it or we just going to apply some common sense here?

I vote for “apply some common sense.”

 

[aufheben]

Where is the Knoblauch thread?

Prospect Info: - Hartford Wolf Pack/Maine Mariners Thread: Part XIV

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Prospect Info: - Hartford Wolf Pack/Maine Mariners Thread: Part XIV

I'd like for him to have his own thread please. He just turned the Rangers into a cup contender.

 

[NYR]

Not worth it..

 

[Mac n Gs]

I vote for “apply some common sense.”

Mika goes back to actually being Mika and Fox and Buch get back into the lineup after being in covid protocol.

HIRE KNOBLAUCH!

 

[NYR]

Mika goes back to actually being Mika and Fox and Buch get back into the lineup after being in covid protocol.

HIRE KNOBLAUCH!

Funny how their resurgence didn't happen under Quinn, huh?
Must've been a crazy coincidence lol

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Funny how their resurgence didn't happen under Quinn, huh?
Must've been a crazy coincidence lol

It's a bit of both. Yes, Zibanejad finally being his old self definitely helps but having this interim coaching staff not making a bunch of in-game adjustments seems to give this team more confidence.

Coaching staff learning from this is a much better "solution" than to fire Quinn and hope a new coach handles things differently. I've been one of Quinn's harshest critics but firing him midseason isn't a solution IMO. Let him learn from this, let him adjust the same way we expect players to adjust.

 

[NYR]

It's a bit of both. Yes, Zibanejad finally being his old self definitely helps but having this interim coaching staff not making a bunch of in-game adjustments seems to give this team more confidence.

Coaching staff learning from this is a much better "solution" than to fire Quinn and hope a new coach handles things differently. I've been one of Quinn's harshest critics but firing him midseason isn't a solution IMO. Let him learn from this, let him adjust the same way we expect players to adjust.

AK.. Knoblauch has basically taken DQ's own system and ran with it.
He's actually making in- game adjustments.

As much as I'd like to roll 4 lines consistently, that's not an option on this roster (without a real system) so he knows when to ride the top 3 lines.

He counters and actually has answers that create results.

Quinn has not done any of this at any time..

 

[Chytilmania]

Do you think Tony screenshots all the posts about Quinn and texts him?

 

[haveandare]

They beat Philly who was putting forth one of the worst efforts I’ve - ever - seen.

They beat Washington, which they’d done twice with Quinn behind the bench this year.

They beat the Sabres on a 13 game losing streak.

Winning is great and I’m happy they’re doing it. I also don’t love Quinn and am not even opposed to replacing him. But let’s be realistic, this little patch of games isn’t some incredible turnaround yet. They beat two absolutely terrible teams and split a pair against a good team they’d already beaten this season.

 

[kovazub94]

It's a bit of both. Yes, Zibanejad finally being his old self definitely helps but having this interim coaching staff not making a bunch of in-game adjustments seems to give this team more confidence.

Coaching staff learning from this is a much better "solution" than to fire Quinn and hope a new coach handles things differently. I've been one of Quinn's harshest critics but firing him midseason isn't a solution IMO. Let him learn from this, let him adjust the same way we expect players to adjust.

No in game adjustments? Like not limiting Lafreniere / Kakko to about 7 min?

 

[Tawnos]

They beat Philly who was putting forth one of the worst efforts I’ve - ever - seen.

They beat Washington, which they’d done twice with Quinn behind the bench this year.

They beat the Sabres on a 13 game losing streak.

Winning is great and I’m happy they’re doing it. I also don’t love Quinn and am not even opposed to replacing him. But let’s be realistic, this little patch of games isn’t some incredible turnaround yet. They beat two absolutely terrible teams and split a pair against a good team they’d already beaten this season.

Nothing has changed. The Rangers recently had a stretch, with Quinn behind the bench, where they won 6 out of 8. They lost 3 and now are back to playing similar to that stretch.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No in game adjustments? Like not limiting Lafreniere / Kakko to about 7 min?

By in-game adjustments I mean mixing up lines, shuffling PP units etc. It's refreshing to see the same lines out there in the 3rd. The only time Knoblauch changed something was the last game with Kakko moving up to the Panarin line. Quinn mixes his lines up 5 minutes in every game.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

They beat Philly who was putting forth one of the worst efforts I’ve - ever - seen.

They beat Washington, which they’d done twice with Quinn behind the bench this year.

They beat the Sabres on a 13 game losing streak.

Winning is great and I’m happy they’re doing it. I also don’t love Quinn and am not even opposed to replacing him. But let’s be realistic, this little patch of games isn’t some incredible turnaround yet. They beat two absolutely terrible teams and split a pair against a good team they’d already beaten this season.

I see your point and I guess my answer is a bit of yes and no. The team definitely looks different when their top players are performing (hardly something that is unique to the NYR). They have definitely played well in the games you call out—even if the other teams haven't been great (Phil in a slump and Buff being Buff). But am I ready to chalk up the Rangers playing better due to Quinn's absence? No, I am not.

 

[GunkWinger]

Hasn't Knoblauch been coaching Hartford into a big losing streak? He has gotten results so far with NYR in a few games but perspective is needed. How much is his coaching the reason for the success and how much is it him not going too crazy implementing his coaching because he knows its really not his team? I would consider him for next year if Quinn were to get fired and management still feels we need to grow more rather than compete.

 

[kovazub94]

By in-game adjustments I mean mixing up lines, shuffling PP units etc. It's refreshing to see the same lines out there in the 3rd. The only time Knoblauch changed something was the last game with Kakko moving up to the Panarin line. Quinn mixes his lines up 5 minutes in every game.

I made a post about it in the recent past so here's a gist.

Zibanejad, Buchnevich, Kreider & Strome are on PK. Panarin & Chytil don't kill penalties. So after the Rangers finish PK, Quinn puts Panarin with Chytil and one of RW that didn't PK either - Blackwell or Kakko or Gauthier - to have a shift there. Lafreniere then either misses a shift or get's one on the next line. Similar adjustments happen after PP.

Is this random? Maybe it looks this way to a basic fan but coaching staff definitely has a plan they try to execute and I'm sure they practice it. Then there's something that ALL coaches do based on how certain players have something going in a particular game or vice versa - some players are struggling and based on the score something needs to change.