Confirmed with Link: David Quinn - New Rangers Coach (Officially official on 5/23)

[Ori]

I don`t know.. What do we like to achieve next season?
I guess I`m happy the coach is something fresh. A new start and certainly a new chapter with all our moves before the last window ended.
It looks like we will only get a 2nd rnd from Tampa since they lost in the playoffs, but whatever..
Miller & Ryan Mc. signing was not enough it seems for Tampa to reach the final and I expected them to play the Stanley cup final this year.

It`s tropical heat here in Norway so I instantly took 2 weeks vacation!
Anyway enjoy the summer until later!

 

[pld459666]

I don`t know.. What do we like to achieve next season?
I guess I`m happy the coach is something fresh. A new start and certainly a new chapter with all our moves before the last window ended.
It looks like we will only get a 2nd rnd from Tampa since they lost in the playoffs, but whatever..
Miller & Ryan Mc. signing was not enough it seems for Tampa to reach the final and I expected them to play the Stanley cup final this year.

It`s tropical heat here in Norway so I instantly took 2 weeks vacation!
Anyway enjoy the summer until later!

All I want for this team is to see young guys like LA and Chytil, pionk, ADA and Buchnevich improve their games.

I'd like to see a few of the kids we acquired make runs for the pro squad.

I'd like to see Hartford with a strong team knowing that those players are going to eventually graduate to the main roster.

Understanding that we are rebuilding, I will be happy to win games, but I am not expecting much of that and I'm 1000% ok with that for a year or 3

 

[Good Intentions]

All I want for this team is to see young guys like LA and Chytil, pionk, ADA and Buchnevich improve their games.

I hear you on Chytil/LA. Realistically, it’s important to remember young players flux in and out, I hope they all make it and “improve” but they won’t...Steven Rice, Daniel Goneau, Christian Dube...ADA is more likely to be out of the league in 4 years than be a #4 guy. Will Buchnevich move the needle or will his career follow more of an Anisimov path (nothing to sneeze at)...Gut feeling Lindgren grabs a spot in October.

 

[RGY]

What time is the Press Conference and is it going to be Live Streamed?

 

[Irishguy42]

What time is the Press Conference and is it going to be Live Streamed?

 

[Kovalev27]

There’s nothing wrong with having a different opinion than other posters.

I personally don’t have a problem with the signing and until the coach’s salary counts against the cap, I won’t care how much we pay any of our coaches.

Would you feel that way about him being named coach if he would have taken the original offer?

to be honest If you look back I've had reservations about this guy since his name came up. he's known for his recruiting not his coaching. the fact that he didn't want the job told people he didn't want it and held out for a monster deal makes it just worse.

The POST put out an article today which for the most part says his claim to fame as a coach was 10 years ago as a college assistant suggesting BU pull the goalie early down 3-1 against a heavily underdogged team that probably shouldn't have been leading anyway In that game. and it worked.

that's all they could dig up as his big time moment. Sorry but that is garbage. He's now coaching an original 6 team in the NHL.

As Ive said today he will be very saavy say all the right things and everyone will swoon because the guy is intense and a charmer. but proof is in the pudding and he's got a lot to prove. I personally don't think putting a rookie coach in front of rookie players is the best strategy. we've got a young team desperate for leadership and experience in that position. Yes a guy that knows how to grow young players but a seasoned guy. Quinn is as green as it gets. and frankly hasn't been all that successful as a head coach at any level.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Or ya know his extensive track record working with young, talented players, which is exactly what Gorton has been saying this entire time?

You’re literally just yelling at clouds at this point.

 

[Kovalev27]

he's a good recruiter for sure. you think he deserves a medal for getting eichel to the show? fine i guess.

 

[Block More Shots]

to be honest If you look back I've had reservations about this guy since his name came up. he's known for his recruiting not his coaching. the fact that he didn't want the job told people he didn't want it and held out for a monster deal makes it just worse.

The POST put out an article today which for the most part says his claim to fame as a coach was 10 years ago as a college assistant suggesting BU pull the goalie early down 3-1 against a heavily underdogged team that probably shouldn't have been leading anyway In that game. and it worked.

that's all they could dig up as his big time moment. Sorry but that is garbage. He's now coaching an original 6 team in the NHL.

As Ive said today he will be very saavy say all the right things and everyone will swoon because the guy is intense and a charmer. but proof is in the pudding and he's got a lot to prove. I personally don't think putting a rookie coach in front of rookie players is the best strategy. we've got a young team desperate for leadership and experience in that position. Yes a guy that knows how to grow young players but a seasoned guy. Quinn is as green as it gets. and frankly hasn't been all that successful as a head coach at any level.

I think you're being a bit tough on a guy that hasn't even started the coaching process with the team. I understand your points in terms of question marks surrounding his previous success and experience, but there are obviously reasons that JG hired him. They wanted a guy with a good track record of working with young players and helping the development process along. He's likely NOT going to be the guy that leads us to the Cup.

When we hired AV, were we thinking that we want a guy who will help us through a retool/rebuild or a guy who can hopefully lead us to a Cup based on his previous experience? The latter came pretty damn close, but this hiring is a big step in a direction that really solidifies where the organization currently is and wants to work towards over the next several years. Context matters when you're choosing a coaching staff.

 

[eco's bones]

I expect progress this coming year. The Rangers will add a few UFA's and they'll have more and better quality young players and prospects pushing for jobs this year. Stabilize the defense corps with an addition or two--reinstitute a zone type defense and IMO we'll already be a better team than we finished the past season with. I wouldn't bet that we're going to be a playoff team next year but I wouldn't be shocked if we were either. We have a number of quality players still and put a better defense and a better defensive system in front of Lundqvist and we might do better than some people think. IMO I'm expecting this team to be much more competitive game to game this coming year than last year when we came out asleep half the time.

Anyway I wouldn't concede anything. There was no reason to expect Vegas to be as good as they turned out to be but they're in the Cup finals. Just saying.

If not 18-19 I expect the Rangers to at least push very hard for a playoff spot in 19-20.

Gorton is setting the team up for the future--we're going to have more cap space and guys on ELC's working towards their second and third contracts. The cap is going to be a lot easier to manage. We've got really good prospects at all positions and we're about to add a bunch of draft picks in what looks to be an excellent draft year. Things aren't that bad.

 

[silverfish]

@Kovalev27 who was your top choice for coach? You seem rather anti-Quinn, so I'm just curious who you would've hired.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Brady tkachuk confirmed

 

[Good Intentions]

@Kovalev27 who was your top choice for coach? You seem rather anti-Quinn, so I'm just curious who you would've hired.

I apologize @Kovalev27 - as my 'Alexei Kovalev 27' title came after.

I'm cautiously pro-Quinn. @Kovalev27 seems to be on the other end.

 

[Ori]

If the dude is clueless - it will be an entertaining season on this forum, lol.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

@Kovalev27 who was your top choice for coach? You seem rather anti-Quinn, so I'm just curious who you would've hired.

Someone’s who’s grateful enough to be the Rangers coach, aka someone who wouldn’t negotiate a salary.

So Rod Brind’Amour would be up his alley.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I expect progress this coming year. The Rangers will add a few UFA's and they'll have more and better quality young players and prospects pushing for jobs this year. Stabilize the defense corps with an addition or two--reinstitute a zone type defense and IMO we'll already be a better team than we finished the past season with. I wouldn't bet that we're going to be a playoff team next year but I wouldn't be shocked if we were either. We have a number of quality players still and put a better defense and a better defensive system in front of Lundqvist and we might do better than some people think. IMO I'm expecting this team to be much more competitive game to game this coming year than last year when we came out asleep half the time.

Anyway I wouldn't concede anything. There was no reason to expect Vegas to be as good as they turned out to be but they're in the Cup finals. Just saying.

If not 18-19 I expect the Rangers to at least push very hard for a playoff spot in 19-20.

Gorton is setting the team up for the future--we're going to have more cap space and guys on ELC's working towards their second and third contracts. The cap is going to be a lot easier to manage. We've got really good prospects at all positions and we're about to add a bunch of draft picks in what looks to be an excellent draft year. Things aren't that bad.

Agree with all of this, but with one caveat – even if we are looking good for a PO seed, stick with the program; no rentals at the TDL, and even be ready to sell again, no matter where you stand in regards to the cutoff. If we are trending towards a berth, don't undercut the rebuild in a low-percentage play to win one or two more postseason games.

Give me at least one more offseason focused on the future before you start making moves for the here-and-now...

 

[Ori]

I`m curious what AV is doing now on daily basis.. Maybe a flashy boat trip to Hawaii to watch the new Volcano eruption?

 

[eco's bones]

Agree with all of this, but with one caveat – even if we are looking good for a PO seed, stick with the program; no rentals at the TDL, and even be ready to sell again, no matter where you stand in regards to the cutoff. If we are trending towards a berth, don't undercut the rebuild in a low-percentage play to win one or two more postseason games.

Give me at least one more offseason focused on the future before you start making moves for the here-and-now...

I agree---no rentals for the forseeable future but short term UFA signings in July?--or if you can add a quality vet for 3-4 years that's still got gas in the tank?--absolutely. You can always turn around at the TDL and trade them for more prospects, draft picks. More flexibility with the cap shouldn't mean we don't use it but we should use it smartly...and the Rangers shouldn't be trading 1st, 2nd rounders anymore other than move up to even higher draft picks.

 

[Kovalev27]

@Kovalev27 who was your top choice for coach? You seem rather anti-Quinn, so I'm just curious who you would've hired.

I'll give you a few options here. because i understand personalities matter and there isn't one right or one wrong answer.

If you wanted to go fresh and i do understand why they might want to do that. i would have gone to Scott Gordon or Sheldon Keefe. Guys that are proving they can win at the pro level. Not NHL level just yet but proven they understand what it takes to coach pros and have done their work to earn a shot. It wouldn't have been my first choice but i could understand it. Todd Nelson would have been another guy I'd have given strong consideration too. I think Gordon would have been my choice out of this group.

If you wanted a pro veteran guy i would have waited on Trotz. I would have thrown my weight around and done what was needed to get him when this playoff ended. I also wouldn't have been so against Dave Tippett. He's not the sexy name here but he's a solid choice. a guy that knows how to coach kids and has never had the resources of a big market team to support him.

and then finally i would have called Kruger and Gronberg and given them both interviews. they may have surprised. i don't believe for a second either guy would turn down the Rangers position.

But the biggest take away here is we did not wait to interview Gordon Keefe or Trotz. if Montgomery was choice one and he said no we should have waited till the season ended. we were the only team with a head coaching position avail we had time to check in on more proven guys.

 

[Edge]

Before I proceed, I am going to proactively emphasize that I'm not picking on any specific person, or citing any specific comments.

With that disclaimer out of the way, I will admit to being somewhat amused by the coaching chatter.

Many people haven't ever actually watched many of the players or prospects they express strong opinions about. They glean nuggets of information here and there, take a look at stats, and cobble together a theory and hunker down. In some cases, they latch on to chatter and then convert to a particular POV. That's not an insult, it's just the reality that most people simply don't have the time or inclination to watch that much hockey. And those who might be so inclined usually aren't in a position to do so.

With that said, it's interesting to see some of the coaching conversations. In 99 percent of cases, I highly doubt anyone has been closely following the style, strategy and progress of coaches outside the NHL. That's not to say people aren't going to form opinions based on what they've heard or how they perceive team performances, but I'm not sure there are many people who really studied a particular coach closely enough to form an opinion equating to a hill for which they would die.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Before I proceed, I am going to proactively emphasize that I'm not picking on any specific person, or citing any specific comments.

With that disclaimer out of the way, I will admit to being somewhat amused by the coaching chatter.

Many people haven't ever actually watched many of the players or prospects they express strong opinions about. They glean nuggets of information here and there, take a look at stats, and cobble together a theory and hunker down. In some cases, they latch on to chatter and then convert to a particular POV. That's not an insult, it's just the reality that most people simply don't have the time or inclination to watch that much hockey. And those who might be so inclined usually aren't in a position to do so.

With that said, it's interesting to see some of the coaching conversations. In 99 percent of cases, I highly doubt anyone has been closely following the style, strategy and progress of coaches outside the NHL. That's not to say people aren't going to form opinions based on what they've heard or how they perceive team performances, but I'm not sure there are many people who really studied a particular coach closely enough to form an opinion equating to a hill for which they would die.

Do you like the hire, Edge?

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

This is a fair assessment of AV's tenure, which is often tough to come by around here.

The VAST majority of AV criticisms were fair, on point and used multiple examples to highlight his failings. Many of them aligned with the words of Vancouver fans and many of them were echoed in the actions and words of current and former players.

You and your assessment of AV were just frequently wrong and you can't admit it so you constructed a narrative in your mind that all of the assessments of AV that disagreed with you are, for the most part, just unfair.

Nothing shocking here. But this is exactly why AV is not a good coach. Hope Trotz leaves and AV goes there. Would probably bench Kuznetsov whenever the gum starts to lose its flavor

Just to be "fair", I'll say it's possible Buch is exaggerating, that he constantly made specific errors, never worked to fix them and the coaching staff clearly communicated that this made him a liability in certain situations so he wouldn't be out there until he worked on it.

It's definitely possible he just hasn't worked on things he really should be.

After watching AV with multiple players throughout multiple seasons I'm inclined to think AV is a crap coach who hung the kid out to dry with little coaching and expected him to just figure it out.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I agree---no rentals for the forseeable future but short term UFA signings in July?--or if you can add a quality vet for 3-4 years that's still got gas in the tank?--absolutely. You can always turn around at the TDL and trade them for more prospects, draft picks. More flexibility with the cap shouldn't mean we don't use it but we should use it smartly...and the Rangers shouldn't be trading 1st, 2nd rounders anymore other than move up to even higher draft picks.

Oh, I have no problem with short term UFA signings at all.

But no "adding a quality vet for 3-4 years" if that means giving up picks/solid prospects to acquire them. You want to trade one 22 year old for another 22 year old, fine; likewise with trading a 29 year old for a 29 year old. And if someone wants to give us a meaningful prospect or a 1st round pick in a package to take a vet contract off their hands in exchange for like Rob O'Gara or David Gilmour, by all means.

Just no Pionks for Subbans.

 

[Ori]

Yes, I believe you are accurate @Edge - I don`t have enough information about him, nor really strong opinions if we should hire him or not. And I strongly believe the whole team benefit from another season among the bottom teams in this league since we are in a 3 months old rebuild process no matter who the coach is, because we can benefit from it with another year to get an impact player in the draft.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Looking forward to the press conference.

I will be judging Quinn’s personality (and thereby his overall coaching ability) and demeanor solely on his body language and what he says during this press conference.