Player Discussion David Pastrnak IV

[Jorah Marshmont]

Is there anyone in the top ten in that draft who is now better than Pasta ? Who were the top ten that year ?

Well he's leading the draft class in goals. Third in points. Fourth in assists. Looks like he wouldn't have been out of place as a top 5 pick, going off this point in time. But who knows how it will look in 3 or 4 years

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Looking like a 6x6 type of deal upcoming for pastrnak. Certainly doable with about 5 coming off the books with liles and chara

Cap math is a bit more complicated than that... when chara and likes come off, their replacement gets added

Then we need to cover marchands raise

Spooned will be arbitration eligible

We might be scrambling to afford a 5th forward in that 6 mill territory.

If he ends up with 40+ goals we will need to payup... but if he doesn't hit that type of number I think we need to bridge him. This is just 1 great season after all.

 

[BsEuphoria]

It's always a tough decision to make to try to sign before the big year or hopefully you see it coming and get a slightly reduced rate for it. Either way, It's been a long time since I've watched the B's and felt like something like that OT goal could happen at any moment he gets the puck. I freakin love it.

 

[BruinDust]

Ekblad went #1 he would be the only one possibly someone woumd take over Pasta.

Reinhart and Draisaitl went 2 and 3.

Draisaitl is looking pretty good. He's over a PPG the last 15 games or so. Can play wing or center.

Redo that draft to me there is a clear 1-2-3 at the top (Ekblad, Pasta, Draisitl), then there is a drop off after that to the next tier with Larkin, Ehlers, Reinhart, etc.

 

[BruinDust]

Cap math is a bit more complicated than that... when chara and likes come off, their replacement gets added

Then we need to cover marchands raise

Spooned will be arbitration eligible

We might be scrambling to afford a 5th forward in that 6 mill territory.

If he ends up with 40+ goals we will need to payup... but if he doesn't hit that type of number I think we need to bridge him. This is just 1 great season after all.

Without looking it up, there is some small loophole that was mentioned on here this summer by a more CBA-versed poster than myself, and I don't think Spooner has arbitration rights, and thus reduced negotiating power.

 

[pierre gagnon*]

David Pastrnak is making $832,500 and has 15 goals in 21 games = 55,500 per goal.
I just divided the goals into the salary. Then Pastrnak is one of the best bargains this year, if not the best.

It is looking like some GMs should be upset with their scouts and time to pump the kids tires as well as management for taking him at 25th overall. The bashing they took for the other draft should go the same way in reverse for those that passed on Pasta and Carlo

 

[Alan Ryan]

David Pastrnak is making $832,500 and has 15 goals in 21 games = 55,500 per goal.
I just divided the goals into the salary. Then Pastrnak is one of the best bargains this year, if not the best.

It is looking like some GMs should be upset with their scouts and time to pump the kids tires as well as management for taking him at 25th overall. The bashing they took for the other draft should go the same way in reverse for those that passed on Pasta and Carlo

Kirk has the best information on Pastrnak and the draft. Great story: https://scoutingpost.com/2016/12/06/becoming-pastrnak/

 

[wintersej]

I remember the Behind the B's draft episode where they were pumping the crap out of Pastrnak's tires before he even played a game. Amazing they were so right about the kid (and confident enough about it to make their little PR show talk him up so much) and he fell all the way to them.

 

[Nose Face Killah]

this kid needs to get signed already. i just need to know he'll be here for the forseeable and won't be traded on some ********

 

[that is unfortunate]

Update from Habs board. They are drooling over Pasta.

I'm a Habs fan, can confirm. I was so high on Pastrnak in his draft year, watching him play with Nylander was really something, so many beautiful plays. I obviously didn't expect him to be this good this early but the fact he went 25th is outrageous, injury or not.

 

[ashnathan]

So how did Larkin make it to the All Star Game yet Pastrnak doesnt get a look in??? Makes 0 sense for a guy that is what...3rd in goals in the league in less games than the 2nd place getter? Seems odd.

Id rather they lock him up than bridge him, if they bridge him, and he pots 35/40 this year, then backs it up next year, he will be getting MEGA bucks.

 

[VictorLustig]

I'm a Habs fan, can confirm. I was so high on Pastrnak in his draft year, watching him play with Nylander was really something, so many beautiful plays. I obviously didn't expect him to be this good this early but the fact he went 25th is outrageous, injury or not.

I think he hurt is draft stock by playing at the U18 WC after being out for a long time. He was nowhere near the same player there as he was pre-injury and that must have scared off a lot of teams.

 

[Gee Wally]

We gotta vote this kid onto the all star team.

https://www.nhl.com/all-star-ballot

 

[rocketdan9]

We gotta vote this kid onto the all star team.

https://www.nhl.com/all-star-ballot

Def... Rask and pasta deserve to go

 

[BNHL]

We gotta vote this kid onto the all star team.

https://www.nhl.com/all-star-ballot

Absolutely,this kid is becoming a 2 way stud,3 takeaways and a crucial block last night to go with the goal.

 

[kdog82]

8 x 5.9

Takes him to UFA at 28 years old where he'll make even more on another 7 year deal.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Without looking it up, there is some small loophole that was mentioned on here this summer by a more CBA-versed poster than myself, and I don't think Spooner has arbitration rights, and thus reduced negotiating power.

cap friendly has him eligible for arbitration... from what ive read of the rules I see no reason he wouldn't be

on the other hand david pastrnak isn't eligible... and despite all the talk of giving him a 7-8 year deal, I think that is the wrong choice to make. when a guy isn't eligible for arbitration its stupid not to bridge the kid.

theres been a lot of very talented players who get a huge contract and never again live up to their potential. playing hockey requires you to work through the pain. it requires you to live a Spartan lifestyle off the ice to keep in shape. it requires you to leave your crap at the door when game starts and focus.

talent alone... doesn't let you be elite. its a full 24/7 lifestyle and a lot of hard work to be Crosby or gretzky or orr

pastrnak is looking to be our best pure goal scorer since neely... its a great great thing... but id like to see him have 3 above average seasons before we open up the vault for him.

bridge him now... then give him the moon on his next deal... we get 10 years locked up instead of 8 and that might be a huge thing once ufa rolls around. losing him at 28 would really suck

 

[Pia8988]

cap friendly has him eligible for arbitration... from what ive read of the rules I see no reason he wouldn't be

on the other hand david pastrnak isn't eligible... and despite all the talk of giving him a 7-8 year deal, I think that is the wrong choice to make. when a guy isn't eligible for arbitration its stupid not to bridge the kid.

theres been a lot of very talented players who get a huge contract and never again live up to their potential. playing hockey requires you to work through the pain. it requires you to live a Spartan lifestyle off the ice to keep in shape. it requires you to leave your crap at the door when game starts and focus.

talent alone... doesn't let you be elite. its a full 24/7 lifestyle and a lot of hard work to be Crosby or gretzky or orr

pastrnak is looking to be our best pure goal scorer since neely... its a great great thing... but id like to see him have 3 above average seasons before we open up the vault for him.

bridge him now... then give him the moon on his next deal... we get 10 years locked up instead of 8 and that might be a huge thing once ufa rolls around. losing him at 28 would really suck

And if he succeeds you get a PK Subban situation. I would much rather get the cap savings during what will most likely be his best statistical years. Nothing says he's only going to get one big contract from the Bruins or that he ends up with two. In a cap world especially trying to save money will help out with getting more quality depth.

 

[BruinLVGA]

We gotta vote this kid onto the all star team.

https://www.nhl.com/all-star-ballot

Agreed & voted (10 ballots).

 

[JRull86]

Nothing but impressed with his play this year.

Obviously the goals are great, but it's the other stuff in his game this season that's impressed me. Taking the body, throwing hits, getting back defensively, etc. He's bought in completely, and his overall game has benefitted because of it.

Bruins would be crazy not to get this guy locked up long term.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Give him Sheifele money (49M/8y) and enjoy the next decade.

 

[JRull86]

Give him Sheifele money (49M/8y) and enjoy the next decade.

That's exactly where they should be on his next contract. Gives the team term at a good value AAV wise. Gives the player financial security and still allows for him to cash in on another long-term deal at 28 or 29 years old.

 

[b in vancouver]

I was saying this summer that it'd be interesting to see what would happen with pasta and draisatl, as both didn't play full seasons at 18. You might've burnt an elc year, but could get them to sign that 2nd contract at 20, before they broke out and hopefully save yourself a lot of money moving forward.
Thought of it as a case study for teams keeping junior players up for 10 games even if they weren't quite ready... As there's a big difference getting players of their skill and potential signed at 20-21 than 21-23.

It'd be amazing if he keeps it up and challenges for the rocket this year.

 

[JCRO]

We gotta vote this kid onto the all star team.

https://www.nhl.com/all-star-ballot

Yeahhh..

Ill refrain from voting for Jimmy and start tossing some votes Pastas way. I want him there more than putting Jimmy there as a joke.

Edit: Wally, any chance we could get a thread going for voting him in or is that not appropriate? Last I saw, Bergeron was actually one of the leaders in the polls... Not trying to create conflict or anything of that measure.

 

[zaYG]

When was the last time we saw a Bruins forward this dominant ?