Confirmed with Link: David Nonis TML GM|Brian Burke Hired as Senior Advisor - II

[Hurt]

Burke declines to comment on TSN.

Expected. Can't fault TSN for trying.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

atleast prospect nerds admits we were on the right way.Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype
To say the Leafs are worse off after Brian Burke than they were before him is to ignore Toronto's improved prospect base. They are better.

 

[stakesishigh]

Hoping for the Leafs to make the playoffs, regardless of whether Luongo is in net for your team. It's more fun when the big Canadian markets like Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver are in the post season. For what it's worth, if you do manage to steal Luongo, your chances of making the post season increase immeasurably.

Thanks for your insight. This is pretty much what I had in mind regarding Nonis and I guess we'll see how it pans out.

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

Just heard the news

what the ****?

 

[DD03]

Expected. Can't fault TSN for trying.

Yeah obviously. What can he say when he gets fired for being the person he is?

 

[satyr9]

But they corrected the mistake, no? Just like how they're [attempting] to correct one now.

Yeah it only took 8 years.

 

[hockeyfanz*]

When you come to realize you've declined to the point you can't contribute at the NHL level anymore it can manifest itself in many ways. He'll be as useless in MTL as he was here.

Colby another POS brought in by Burke. One of the many horrible additions to the Leafs. I cannot believe the support "Army" got when he was here. The guy is absolute crap...ala Mike Komisarek.

 

[weems]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

 

[7even]

Duthie said he personally believes Nonis/Management wanted Luongo and Burke was hesitant. Not that this was the reason Burke was fired, but to deny that it was not considered in the decision is silly.

If so, that's some Harold Ballard type **** right there.

 

[pspot]

Colby another POS brought in by Burke. One of the many horrible additions to the Leafs. I cannot believe the support "Army" got when he was here. The guy is absolute crap...ala Mike Komisarek.

players brought in to bridge the gap of prospects

 

[htpwn]

But they corrected the mistake, no? Just like how they're [attempting] to correct one now.

Here's the key difference:

Burke was not fired because of his performance. He was fired because ownership simply didn't like him and that is concerning.

This is a sports team, not a media company. The sooner Bell and Rogers realize that the better.

 

[MaskedSonja]

A few notes from a Canucks fan:

A) Nonis, despite his demeanor, is no push over. He was under immense pressure to make a splash by acquiring Brad Richards. Nonis stuck to his guns and the Canucks kept Kesler and Edler, much to the benefit of the Canucks. He is quieter than Burke, but so is a wood chipper.

B) His drafting record is, to be blunt, poor. Raymond and Grabner are the only two payers that had any impact in his 3 drafts. Of course, he also drafted the late Luc Bourdon, so who knows what could have been. Patrick White, is by far, his most spectacular drafting fail.

C) He deserves this shot. He was a bit of a victim to an ownership change in Vancouver, now he is a beneficiary.

D) Is he more "corporate"? Sure, but just because he is more agreeable doesn't make him any better or worse than Burke. Nonis has worked for Burke for most of his career, they share many of the same philosophies on the game. Nonis is more conservative and pragmatic but they both want the same type of team. I don't think your team is any worse off or better because of this move. It's a personality shift, not a philosophy change. Whether that's a good thing or not depends on how you feel about the last 4 seasons.


Hoping for the Leafs to make the playoffs, regardless of whether Luongo is in net for your team. It's more fun when the big Canadian markets like Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver are in the post season. For what it's worth, if you do manage to steal Luongo, your chances of making the post season increase immeasurably.

The corporate part is interesting-because Bell/Rogers own the Leafs (and as has been pointed out, the PC was pretty much FULL of Rogers/Bell-TSN employees), if indeed they have a more "democratic" person, one could argue that they now own a team which answers to reporters effectively owned by the companies who are asking questions to a low key/democratic type of GM-effectively they control all aspects of the team and Media in Toronto.

Whether there's a "puppet" here or not remains to be seen, but a cynic has to wonder now, with control effectively of the Message(Leafs) and the Medium (GM/Media)-who do they answer to?

Be interesting to see too how the Lou situation works out.

 

[TootooTrain]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

You can throw that out the window if Luongo is indeed a target.

 

[DD03]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

Should've kept Gustavsson then

 

[TML g u n n e R s*]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

na not really

 

[Bomber0104]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

The truth.

 

[Hurt]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

Been said before will be said again. No respectable team or players will lose on purpose.

 

[Bomber0104]

players brought in to bridge the gap of prospects

What prospects?

A bridge to nowhere.

 

[alcanalz]

Agreed with Duthie, I don't see how there's any possible way Luongo did not play at least a decent role in Burke being canned. Either because Burke didn't want him... or because he did (much more likely the former).

 

[SteveV*]

If so, that's some Harold Ballard type **** right there.

THere is NOTHING professional about what happened today, there is NOTHING that says top flight organization about doing this move right on eve of season. Total amateur hour, complete joke!!

 

[Hurt]

Here's the key difference:

Burke was not fired because of his performance. He was fired because ownership simply didn't like him and that is concerning.

This is a sports team, not a media company. The sooner Bell and Rogers realize that the better.

Well to be fair, there was no performance either.

 

[Stats01]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

As Lupul said, although this is a big day for the Leafs it changes nothing for the players. The season hasn't even started and you want them to tank..no

 

[Nasty Nazem]

That's debatable. With a top 5 farm in the MLB and now those pieces being used to bring in players of a high caliber, the fans can scream all day but AA got it done.

But we're getting OT here a bit.

Yes this off-season because they finally gave the go to spend but it was pretty bad before that. Payroll constraints limited what the Jays could do over the past number of years. At this point, Jays almost had to spend because of the heavy backlash and criticism they were receiving and of course, the team was ready for it. The organization had a bottom third payroll in MLB for years and years so it wasn't exactly like they had given the GM whatever resources he needed to improve the team. Also had JP running the ship for 8 years... which umm, wow.

 

[weems]

No 1st line C
No #1 goalie
Teams have missed the playoffs every year under his reign
Mediocre farm system

Cant believe how many people are making it seem like we just fired some guy who did wonders for this franchise.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Leafs should be tanking hard for Mackinnon or Jones.

They are not going to tell the players to lose on purpose and they are not going to gut the team.