Rumor: David Jiricek available

[Czechboy]

my dream scenario: will smith
bracing myself for: musty + picks

middle ground: william eklund? idk

I'd love him in SJ... I like their rebuild and think they'll be back to relevance soon. His competition would be Rutta and Ceci. Should have a lot of leeway to make mistakes and get some ice time.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Konecny would be a good fit for Columbus but it'd be the franchise saying we're not making playoffs. If this trade every happens, I'm really curious what happens and how close we were.

philly making the playoffs would be a bigger surprise in my book than them dealing konecny before his extension kicks in.

Starting to think my Savoie idea is not going to happen at all.lol

as a cbj fan i have less than zero interest in savoie. i get that he was drafted in the same neighborhood as jiricek but he hasn't stood out at all since then.

 

[Digitalbooya]

As long as it doesn't block Spacek, I like it! Would be hillarious if he gets traded and sent to Iowa though.lol

Well, the Wild have Faber-Spurgeon-Bogosian signed through next season. The latter two have a history of injuries though.

I’ve been high on Spacek, but I’m starting to question if he will get a shot with Minnesota. Might be a piece of the package offered.

 

[Jargon]

Musty, Ferraro and a 2nd…

Orrrr…

Musty, Bordeleau or Gushchin and a 2nd and a 3rd.

The issue with the Sharks is there’s no way they’d offer their 1st, so it has to be prospect-laden.

What does CBJ need? I don’t imagine they’re interested in a vet like Granlund or anything.

 

[OverTheLine]

If SJS is in I imagine it's Musty and Mukh in the mix, but I kind of doubt Columbus bites at that.

 

[Czechboy]

philly making the playoffs would be a bigger surprise in my book than them dealing konecny before his extension kicks in.


as a cbj fan i have less than zero interest in savoie. i get that he was drafted in the same neighborhood as jiricek but he hasn't stood out at all since then.

I know.. it's a bit of a joke at this point. Oilers have nothing to trade for him to be honest. Savoie + a 2nd is the best we could do. He would have a great spot in Edmonton though. Start at 3D and move up to 2D by playoffs (if we make it). But it's all daydreaming at this point.haha

Konecny is a beast - I think he'd impove Columbus pretty quick! Can't see that one happening though.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Konecny is a beast - I think he'd impove Columbus pretty quick! Can't see that one happening though.

one of the philly writers (not sure how reputable) said that any roster player except for michkov would be on the table, meaning konecny.

If SJS is in I imagine it's Musty and Mukh in the mix, but I kind of doubt Columbus bites at that.

columbus definitely starts by asking for smith, and if that gets rebuked they counter with eklund or dickinson.

not saying those other prospects aren't good, but columbus doesn't need to add depth, they need pieces at the top, and ideally ones they can plug in right now.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I'd love him in SJ... I like their rebuild and think they'll be back to relevance soon. His competition would be Rutta and Ceci. Should have a lot of leeway to make mistakes and get some ice time.

Not for nothing, it might help to have Rutta around to get him settled, even if he started with the Barracuda (who are conveniently located in SJ as well, so no apartment hopping). If the Sharks landed Jiricek, I imagine he'd start with the Cuda, see spot duty as injuries happen, and then come up full-time after the trade deadline when Ceci moves. Kind of the same way they're currently handling Askarov.

It's hard to imagine a package that gets it done, though. Obviously Celebrini, Smith, Dickinson, and Askarov are off the table, as well as our 2025 1st and probably the 2026 1st as well. From the roster, Eklund and Zetterlund are keepers that I'm not interested in moving. Kinda leaves second tier picks and prospects as a base, which Columbus might turn their nose up at, rightfully or not.

I'd say the next tier of Sharks prospects would be Cagnoni, Bystedt, Graf, Musty, Mukhamadullin, Halttunen, Thompson, Pohlkamp, and Chernyshov. I value Cagnoni and Bystedt above the rest, and would hesitate to move them, but I would expect they would be the guys Columbus would ask for.

 

[EP to EP back to EP]

Lekkerimaki + Hoglander. 2 players you can plug and play. Lekk looks very close to NHL ready. The 1 guy I’m not dealing is Willander.

I think this is too much. Hoglander has proven to be a 3rd liner and Lekkerimaki has nearly as much pedigree as Jiricek. this one is hard for the Canucks cause Willander is a non-starter and Lekker is a guy we should be holding on to. Hoglander isn't nearly enough on his own as his ceiling is a 2nd line player, but likely never more than a 3rd liner.
IDK what the trade would look like, but I doubt we have the pieces to make it make sense.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think this is too much. Hoglander has proven to be a 3rd liner and Lekkerimaki has nearly as much pedigree as Jiricek. this one is hard for the Canucks cause Willander is a non-starter and Lekker is a guy we should be holding on to. Hoglander isn't nearly enough on his own as his ceiling is a 2nd line player, but likely never more than a 3rd liner.
IDK what the trade would look like, but I doubt we have the pieces to make it make sense.

lol come on man. Hogs has no value.

Lekke isn't close to the prospect Jiricek is.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I think this is too much. Hoglander has proven to be a 3rd liner and Lekkerimaki has nearly as much pedigree as Jiricek. this one is hard for the Canucks cause Willander is a non-starter and Lekker is a guy we should be holding on to. Hoglander isn't nearly enough on his own as his ceiling is a 2nd line player, but likely never more than a 3rd liner.
IDK what the trade would look like, but I doubt we have the pieces to make it make sense.

lekkerimaki is absolutely not close whatsoever, and we have zero interest in hoglander.

 

[Czechboy]

Not for nothing, it might help to have Rutta around to get him settled, even if he started with the Barracuda (who are conveniently located in SJ as well, so no apartment hopping). If the Sharks landed Jiricek, I imagine he'd start with the Cuda, see spot duty as injuries happen, and then come up full-time after the trade deadline when Ceci moves. Kind of the same way they're currently handling Askarov.

It's hard to imagine a package that gets it done, though. Obviously Celebrini, Smith, Dickinson, and Askarov are off the table, as well as our 2025 1st and probably the 2026 1st as well. From the roster, Eklund and Zetterlund are keepers that I'm not interested in moving. Kinda leaves second tier picks and prospects as a base, which Columbus might turn their nose up at, rightfully or not.

I'd say the next tier of Sharks prospects would be Cagnoni, Bystedt, Graf, Musty, Mukhamadullin, Halttunen, Thompson, Pohlkamp, and Chernyshov. I value Cagnoni and Bystedt above the rest, and would hesitate to move them, but I would expect they would be the guys Columbus would ask for.

It would be similar to Hrdina helping out a young Jagr when he was entering the NHL. Cagey Czech vet helping a young guy out before his return to Europe/Retirement. I'd love it.

Then you get Jiricek with Ask, Smith, Dickinson and Celebrini next season.

No idea what Columbus would want though. Usually the trade proposals on HF are much more entertaining then the real deal that eventually happens.

 

[stevo61]

my dream scenario: will smith
bracing myself for: musty + picks

middle ground: william eklund? idk

Eklund would be a great get and needed type for our group but I don't think San Jose would be too keen on that

 

[Juxtaposer]

It would be similar to Hrdina helping out a young Jagr when he was entering the NHL. Cagey Czech vet helping a young guy out before his return to Europe/Retirement. I'd love it.

Then you get Jiricek with Ask, Smith, Dickinson and Celebrini next season.

No idea what Columbus would want though. Usually the trade proposals on HF are much more entertaining than the real deal that eventually happens.

Exactly. I really do believe in the value of having fellow countrymen when you're a young player coming up. I always wished we'd had a Czech veteran when Hertl was coming into the league to help him adapt to North America and support him while he learned English. I love having the Swedish contingent now, with Eklund and Zetterlund providing each other a support system, and potentially integrating all the other Swedes in our system as they come up. Askarov has talked about how great it is to work with Nabokov, not just for hockey stuff but for talking about life stuff too. I can't imagine how tough it must be to get used to a new country, culture, and language all while trying to navigate playing hockey at the highest level.

 

[Empoleon8771]

"We want one of another team's top prospect while we're unwilling to trade our own top prospects"

That seems fair to me

Honestly Buium for Jiricek straight up actually seems pretty fair on paper.

 

[AKL]

Honestly Buium for Jiricek straight up actually seems pretty fair on paper.

Wouldn't touch that. The idea behind trading for Jiricek would be to add him to the future core, of which Buium is a massive part. There's zero logic behind this.

 

[BHFAN92]

Option #1-Jiricek to Chicago for Korchinski or Option #2 Jiricek for Rinzel and Del Maestro

 

[belfour30]

If the Sharks trade for Jiricek I'm starting to get a bit concerned as a Hawks fan.....they're going to be a wagon.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Wouldn't touch that. The idea behind trading for Jiricek would be to add him to the future core, of which Buium is a massive part. There's zero logic behind this.

The "logic" is that you have to pay to get a prospect on par with Jiricek, and trying to offer spare parts isn't going to cut it.

Saying no to Buium, Yurov and Wallstedt is basically saying "we want your top guy while we're not willing to trade our top guys".

 

[Juxtaposer]

"We want one of another team's top prospect while we're unwilling to trade our own top prospects"

That seems fair to me

Honestly Buium for Jiricek straight up actually seems pretty fair on paper.

Absolutely no way I'd do that if I'm Minnesota. Buium is on a rocket ship upwards.

 

[Viqsi]

Pretty sure one-for-one is still the target, but if Waddell really is focused on "giving him the fresh start he wants", multi-asset deals become a little more likely. I'm hoping he's not that pushy about it, though. Still, it wouldn't be the first time with Waddell - see: Laine.

There were a number of guys who seemed grumpy at one point or another last year, and when Waddell and Evason came in nearly all of them have since gotten with the program and seem to be enjoying themselves. So he very well could be presuming that folks who are still disgruntled in any way need to move on. I wouldn't have thought Jiricek still is, but with the handling he's gotten it's not outside of the realm of possibility.

 

[AKL]

The "logic" is that you have to pay to get a prospect on par with Jiricek, and trying to offer spare parts isn't going to cut it.

There needs to be more logic applied than just this. You actually do need to consider what makes sense for Minnesota too.

 

[Viqsi]

There needs to be more logic applied than just this. You actually do need to consider what makes sense for Minnesota too.

Minnesota's involved; we have reporting that says as much. So Minnesota evidently thinks it potentially makes sense.
(Either that or they're trying to wear Waddell down.)

 

[Empoleon8771]

There needs to be more logic applied than just this. You actually do need to consider what makes sense for Minnesota too.

Maybe Minnesota should start by not saying "we want Jiricek while we're not willing to trade Yurov, Wallstedt, Buium or Rossi for him". What does Minnesota expect to get him for? A couple of busting 1st rounders and draft picks?

 

[AKL]

Minnesota's involved; we have reporting that says as much. So Minnesota evidently thinks it makes sense.

I welcome you to link a source that says any of Buium, Yurov or Wallstedt are the pieces on the table from them.

Maybe Minnesota should start by not saying "we want Jiricek while we're not willing to trade Yurov, Wallstedt, Buium or Rossi for him"

That wasn't "Minnesota" that said that, it was Michael Russo that said that.