As someone who has had multiple back surgeries I don't wish the chronic pain that follows on anyone but honestly from what I have heard reported I would say it's likely he will end up on LTIR by the end of the year. I feel for Clarkson and the reason I mentioned my personal experience is that sometimes after treatment or medication or shots ect your back can feel great and think it's possible if I do this I can continue playing and just have routine maintenance shots or something but like I have been told over and over the pain will never go away it will always come back and eventually you will get worse. The pain in the back is because the nerves being pressed on by a disk. The pain that happens long after the injury is nerve damage that there is nothing you can do to fix just try and manage long term. He is probably having a hard time hanging it up because all athletes do but for his longterm health I honestly hope if it is back issues he thinks about quality of life 10 years from now. My dad had 1 disc fixed years ago and when they told him he could retire he said no because he worked his whole life and felt he was to young and would go crazy retiring that early. He is now disabled with a back so bad they can go in and fix structural issues but it won't fix any pain. He barely leaves the house and he's been told within 5 years he won't be able to walk again. For context he was a corrections officer and had a very physical job. I don't want to see that happen to Clarkson because he has to much pride and just wants to prove he can still play. Of course as a fan it would be nice to have him off the roster and not protect him and have the extra space but for me this is more of a personal thing I don't want to see happen to a good guy. To many athletes don't think about life after hockey. He needs to think if his family and hang up his skates.
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not trying to derail the thread but.........
I dont think we would. If this FO is really about character they would be wise to steer wide of Kane..
If you think Kane and Big Buff had problems, I cant imagine Kane and Dubi in the same locker room.
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We get the better player, for three years less term, and can actually play when he's on the ice. We'd take it and run.
I'd rather a player not play, than insert a cancer into the locker room, especially such a young team. I get that we'd rid ourselves of Clarkson, but if we're lucky enough to be able to put him on Lair we're in a much better position.
By all accounts he is a good guy who is well liked. Not a cancer.
The cancer is his contract. Took 1 stupid GM to sign that deal, and then a more desperate GM to trade for him to try to hide his own (staffs) incompetence.
But saying he is a cancer is wrong.
What? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/evander-kane-on-ir--byfuglien-says-misbehaving-kids-need--discipline-235343693.html
With everything going on, I think we'd be wise to steer clear of him. It's drama you don't want to introduce into a young room..
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I think he means Kane as a cancer.
I think JD thought you meant Clarkson as a cancer.
Ohhhhhh. Yeah I don't have any gripes with Clarkson outside of his contract.
Shoot sorry I didn't read enough - thought it was saying Clarkson was a cancer.
My mistake 100%.
My mistake 100%.
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Not sure if this is buried in this 25 page thread but interesting article on THN regarding the CBA and Guaranteed Signing Bonuses (since Clarkson may have gotten this thing started but it is starting to snowball). Its still a few years off but sounds like it might be an issue when the next CBA needs to be negotiated.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/signing-bonuses-could-become-next-cba-battleground/
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/signing-bonuses-could-become-next-cba-battleground/
So Davidson reveals that they have insurance on Clarkson and that he failed his physical. Hence, is it a wash with Nathan Horton? Trade one injured player who can't play for another, only now you have insurance on the injured player (Clarkson) where as before you didn't (Horton).
I'm inferring from this that perhaps the doom-n-gloomers used their powers of hindsight prematurely.
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Would be absolutely giddy if his career is done, and his contract is handled by insurance, strictly from how much it would help the jackets. Feel bad for the guyfrom a personal standpoint.
I knew there had to be somebody, I really don't care what you said after - it really doesn't matter.
I hope the guy can have a pretty good quality of life.
Viqsi
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The impression I've gotten is that it doesn't. But if ownership is okay with it, then, hey, whatever.
theD86
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It's not that bad....... His salary comes off the cap when he's placed on LTIR. That means insurance company, not CBJ will pay his $5.25M
Depends on what insurance covers. His contract is set up that most of his compensation is guaranteed bonuses each year and small base salary. As others have mentioned it is likely insurance covers salary not bonus. So if we owe him $5M then insurance would pay salary (I'm assuming at 85% or so) but CBJ would still be hook for bonus. So if salary is $1M and Bonus $4M then insurance would pay $850,000 and CBJ would pay $4.15M.
Now the CAP hit would go away if on LTIR so we would have $5.4M in cap relief but the CBJ would still have to pay out (in my example) $4.15M.
Here is Clarkson's contract remaining:
2016-17: $2M Salary and $5M Bonus
2017-18: $2M Salary and $5M Bonus
2018-19: $1M Salary and $3.75M Bonus
2019-20: $1M Salary and $2.25M Bonus
Cap hit per year is $5.25M
2016-17: $2M Salary and $5M Bonus
2017-18: $2M Salary and $5M Bonus
2018-19: $1M Salary and $3.75M Bonus
2019-20: $1M Salary and $2.25M Bonus
Cap hit per year is $5.25M
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So let's assume for a moment that Clarkson does go on LTIR for the entire 16-17 season.
Does the CBJ then have to protect him from expansion draft because of the No Movement Clause? Or does LTIR also relive them of that, just like Cap Relief?
Does the CBJ then have to protect him from expansion draft because of the No Movement Clause? Or does LTIR also relive them of that, just like Cap Relief?
Fro
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the comment I saw on it, was if he's on LTIR for more than 60 games, he's exempt from the expansion draft list so we wouldn't have to use a protection spot on him
