Player Discussion David Backes

[Kalus]

how was it costly to the team? In Toronto the boys seemed to be playing with little to no energy and Backes, as he said, tried to get the team energized (I`m not one who believes, outside of a rare occasion, a scrap does that) but I get that`s what players do

As for going after smaller guys who are skilled and smaller? Who bloody cares, not like he`s chasing Johnny Gaudreau around the ice, he`s trying to take with him teams best players. It`s not like Toews and/or Benn are Marchand`s size

Anyways, not sure what your getting at, so far, love what I`m seeing from Backes and the "look" is very good

I think the Kadri fight was more of a personal thing and not a rallying cry in and of itself.

The goad attempt against Hall resulted in a penalty at a very inopportune time.

 

[BNHL]

I like his style,I just don't know what it means in the win column.

 

[pierre gagnon*]

Liking his compete game and leadership, should rub off on the youngsters. That part has to be taken into account, he is molding them the same way the other vets do.

 

[bruins51]

I suppose it's a matter of whether you believe in the Code or not.

I was brought up that way so that's how I think.

If you're gonna run around you have to answer the bell from time to time when challenged, sometimes that will be against tough guys but not necessarily the goons.

You don't go after smaller non fighter types unless they cheap shot someone on your team or something similar.

I get that things change. Just not the actions of what I consider to be a true leader.

pretty sure hall threw the first jab and then refused to go after

should backes let him jump in on carlo or jab him in the face because hall is good at scoring and doesnt fight a lot?

 

[PlayMakers]

pretty sure hall threw the first jab and then refused to go after

should backes let him jump in on carlo or jab him in the face because hall is good at scoring and doesnt fight a lot?

Agreed. You want to take chops at the goalie you're fair game. I don't care if you're big or small. PLUS, Hall threw the first jab, and I was pissed when they just took Backes there. I actually thought Hall threw two jabs before Backes responded.

That said, I did find the Kadri fight odd. Folks have said Kadri's a punk, and maybe there was something going on we don't know about but when that happened I thought that was a mismatch and not really fair. Not that Backes is Lucic with the gloves off, but he's certainly bigger and stronger and more experienced at it than Kadri.

 

[LSCII]

Backes has only fought one guy that outweighed him in the last 5 years. His recent fights have all been against the likes of Kadri, Jamie Benn, Corey Perry, Toews, etc. Where he's been the far bigger man.

 

[JCRO]

Backes has only fought one guy that outweighed him in the last 5 years. His recent fights have all been against the likes of Kadri, Jamie Benn, Corey Perry, Toews, etc. Where he's been the far bigger man.

They may not trade fairly weight wise (which I believe is the point you're getting at) but those are all guys worthy of him taking off the ice for 5 minutes. So in that respect, it's a fair exchange.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

They may not trade fairly weight wise (which I believe is the point you're getting at) but those are all guys worthy of him taking off the ice for 5 minutes. So in that respect, it's a fair exchange.

Exactly. Backes vs John Scott only benefits the opposition. If Backes was a pure grinder I'd understand the points being made, but he was essentially a Bergeron-type for the Blues.

 

[LSCII]

They may not trade fairly weight wise (which I believe is the point you're getting at) but those are all guys worthy of him taking off the ice for 5 minutes. So in that respect, it's a fair exchange.

Sure, that's an accurate statement. Just like me saying he's a spot picker that targets other teams more skilled players is a fair statement. I get it too. It's a smart move, but let's not delude ourselves about what he is and why he's doing it. He clearly goes after those guys. Again, heady play on his part, but not exactly a good fighter or tough guy like a lot of people who didn't watch STL regularly thought.

 

[DKH]

Backes has only fought one guy that outweighed him in the last 5 years. His recent fights have all been against the likes of Kadri, Jamie Benn, Corey Perry, Toews, etc. Where he's been the far bigger man.

Kadri is a dirt bag- trying to get arguably the Devils best player off the ice in theory was a good move that didn't work. Corey Perry & Jonathan Toews off the ice is brilliant. We are talking 2 likely HOF.

When Backes goes after Nathan Gerbe take to me

Backes is a tough a player in the league - please don't confuse being able to throw punches with toughness

If you think he's chicken say it. Let's cut to the chase.

 

[DKH]

Sure, that's an accurate statement. Just like me saying he's a spot picker that targets other teams more skilled players is a fair statement. I get it too. It's a smart move, but let's not delude ourselves about what he is and why he's doing it. He clearly goes after those guys. Again, heady play on his part, but not exactly a good fighter or tough guy like a lot of people who didn't watch STL regularly thought.

Toughness and fighting are two different things

Standing in front of pucks like he does or running back punts in D 1 football like Ellsbury did is toughness

You are smearing this guy

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Sure, that's an accurate statement. Just like me saying he's a spot picker that targets other teams more skilled players is a fair statement. I get it too. It's a smart move, but let's not delude ourselves about what he is and why he's doing it. He clearly goes after those guys. Again, heady play on his part, but not exactly a good fighter or tough guy like a lot of people who didn't watch STL regularly thought.

Yeah, I guess it all depends on the individual perception of him. I can only speak for myself, but I perceived him as a guy who commands respect and is hard to play against - certainly not a fighter. He fits the bill so far, for me at least.

 

[LSCII]

Toughness and fighting are two different things

Standing in front of pucks like he does or running back punts in D 1 football like Ellsbury did is toughness

You are smearing this guy

Why am I smearing him? At no point did I do anything close to that. In fact, I gave him credit for being smart. All I said was that he typically targets other team's skill players. That's a fact, not a smear. And sure, toughness and fighting can be different things. So far he's looked good. Not sure I like him with DK though, but that's TBD...

And more to the point, if we can't discuss a player factually, WTF are we doing here? This thin skin by some people here is beyond ridiculous.

 

[DKH]

Why am I smearing him? At no point did I do anything close to that. In fact, I gave him credit for being smart. All I said was that he typically targets other team's skill players. That's a fact, not a smear. And sure, toughness and fighting can be different things. So far he's looked good. Not sure I like him with DK though, but that's TBD...

And more to the point, if we can't discuss a player factually, WTF are we doing here? This thin skin by some people here is beyond ridiculous.

I apologize I thought you were insinuating he was not tough which is like saying Bergeron is a lousy defensive player

 

[JEM28]

Agreed. You want to take chops at the goalie you're fair game. I don't care if you're big or small. PLUS, Hall threw the first jab, and I was pissed when they just took Backes there. I actually thought Hall threw two jabs before Backes responded.

That said, I did find the Kadri fight odd. Folks have said Kadri's a punk, and maybe there was something going on we don't know about but when that happened I thought that was a mismatch and not really fair. Not that Backes is Lucic with the gloves off, but he's certainly bigger and stronger and more experienced at it than Kadri.

Pretty sure you guys are seeing things through spoked glasses. Hall was on the perimeter, came in and pulled a Bruin from behind, but Backes was way too aggressive. He deserved the penalty.

 

[ODAAT]

I think the Kadri fight was more of a personal thing and not a rallying cry in and of itself.

The goad attempt against Hall resulted in a penalty at a very inopportune time.

maybe wasn`t great timing, have little issue with trying to goad arguably the Devils best offensive player into something

 

[DKH]

Pretty sure you guys are seeing things through spoked glasses. Hall was on the perimeter, came in and pulled a Bruin from behind, but Backes was way too aggressive. He deserved the penalty.

Exactly I was sitting right there and Backes asked Hall to go and Taylor said 'no' with a are you nuts. I posted it in game thread he deserved penalty

It's obvious to me his mindset is to always take a quality player with him

Brilliant strategy

 

[ap3lovr]

Why am I smearing him? At no point did I do anything close to that. In fact, I gave him credit for being smart. All I said was that he typically targets other team's skill players. That's a fact, not a smear. And sure, toughness and fighting can be different things. So far he's looked good. Not sure I like him with DK though, but that's TBD...

And more to the point, if we can't discuss a player factually, WTF are we doing here? This thin skin by some people here is beyond ridiculous.

I don't think he specifically targets them. He is one of the best defensive forwards on his team, the captain on his former team, chances are he's being matched up against them by the coach, or vice versa. He plays a hard game and clearly gets under their skin, I wish we had 6 more of him in the lineup.

 

[DKH]

I don't think he specifically targets them. He is one of the best defensive forwards on his team, the captain on his former team, chances are he's being matched up against them by the coach, or vice versa. He plays a hard game and clearly gets under their skin, I wish we had 6 more of him in the lineup.

Wish I thought of this - exactly he's matched up against these guys

 

[JEM28]

I don't think he specifically targets them. He is one of the best defensive forwards on his team, the captain on his former team, chances are he's being matched up against them by the coach, or vice versa. He plays a hard game and clearly gets under their skin, I wish we had 6 more of him in the lineup.

You think? I think he chooses his spots and targets key players. Recent fight card includes Toews, Kadri and Jamie Benn. Before that Benn again, Corey Perry, Justin Falk. Key players. Not wimps but hardly the leagues tough guys.

Challenging Taylor Hall? Weak.

That said, I like his game so far.

 

[World of Wardlow]

I'm pretty sure the city of Boston will love David Backes

 

[member 96824]

I think the Kadri fight was more of a personal thing and not a rallying cry in and of itself.

The goad attempt against Hall resulted in a penalty at a very inopportune time.

That's who David Backes is and what David Backes does.

Backes is a great teammate and a great leader...but he's got a short fuse and when that is triggered, it's like his wires touch and he can't get away from seeking revenge no matter what. The Blackhawks exploited it for years and even though he's a smart player, he couldn't resist himself.

Backes will do a lot of good in a Bruins uniform. He will also make a lot of self serving, "score settling", selfish plays at that could/do cost the team success. Like anyone except Bergeron and Giroux, you just have to take the good with the bad if you want that player on your squad

I don't doubt the Bruins are surprised by this though. That's numero uno on the Backes scouting report.

 

[JEM28]

That's who David Backes is and what David Backes does.

Backes is a great teammate and a great leader...but he's got a short fuse and when that is triggered, it's like his wires touch and he can't get away from seeking revenge no matter what. The Blackhawks exploited it for years and even though he's a smart player, he couldn't resist himself.

Backes will do a lot of good in a Bruins uniform. He will also make a lot of self serving, "score settling", selfish plays at that could/do cost the team success. Like anyone except Bergeron and Giroux, you just have to take the good with the bad if you want that player on your squad

I don't doubt the Bruins are surprised by this though. That's numero uno on the Backes scouting report.

Great assessment. Backes is now what he was before.

A lot of what we see in Backes applies to another very popular Bruin, one who really gained notoriety in the World Cup, one who is the best goal scored on the Bruins, one Brad Marchand who, at times, can be equally selfish and thoughtless, albeit in a very different way.

You take the good with the bad, and hopefully the good far outweighs the bad over time.

There's Nothing wrong with telling it like it is. Neither is an angel.

 

[BNHL]

2-4 weeks recovery?

 

[LouJersey]

2-4 weeks recovery?

I think it's only a couple of days.