Damien Cox: It’s time for the Maple Leafs to fire coach Sheldon Keefe and bring in Bruce Boudreau

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So if they allowed less goals against, they probably would have won the games?!
If the goaltending performed better than bad to horrific in those games - all of which were one goal games - we would have won most if not all of them.
Considering that bad goaltending is the direct cause of pretty much all of those losses, it's pretty odd to be blaming the coach or skaters for those outcomes.
 
If the goaltending performed better than bad to horrific in those games - all of which were one goal games - we would have won most if not all of them.
Considering that bad goaltending is the direct cause of pretty much all of those losses, it's pretty odd to be blaming the coach or skaters for those outcomes.

If the team was so perfect they would have been able to muster more than 2 goals vs such a lowly, lowly team like the Ottawa Senators (for example).

I know I know, all the "back-breaking" goals completely deflate the team mentally and they stop trying.





Yikes those are some back-breaking wide-open slot / point-blank deflections opportunities given up defensively...
 
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If the team was so perfect they would have been able to muster more than 2 goals vs such a lowly, lowly team like the Ottawa Senators (for example).
Nobody is saying the team is perfect (and Ottawa isn't as bad as you're claiming), but we've averaged 3 goals per game in our losses to sub-0.500 teams. That should be enough.
 
I could be wrong but I think the idea is to not have to rely on crap players.
Sure. Lets loose franchise players so we can over pay people more like Charlie Coyle, Craig Smith, Jesse Puljujarvi, Kyle Okposo etc etc....
 
How many coaches do these players get though? It was a larger issue under Babcock, and still pops up once in a while against weaker teams.

This is the excerpt from the CBJ loss.

They say GM's get three coaches before they are fired, the one they inherit, their 1st hire and their 2nd hire, they usually don't get a 3rd hire.

So my guess is 3 coaches, Dubas will be renewed on a 2 or 3 year contract where he will hire coach # 3 in the Summer.

Sure. Lets loose franchise players so we can over pay people more like Charlie Coyle, Craig Smith, Jesse Puljujarvi, Kyle Okposo etc etc....

You are not wrong ...
 
If the goaltending performed better than bad to horrific in those games - all of which were one goal games - we would have won most if not all of them.
Considering that bad goaltending is the direct cause of pretty much all of those losses, it's pretty odd to be blaming the coach or skaters for those outcomes.
Sounds like it’s on the GM for getting crappy goalies not the coach
 
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Keefe isn't meek at all. The guy gets pissed at his players, but also respects them. He is also composed enough to keep it behind closed doors most of the time... Which is good and extremely hard to do in a market like ours.

It is a tough balance for a coach because the guy needs to be able to trust his players, and especially his top players and leaders. Every coach does. Our top players and leaders have let us down at times, especially in the playoffs, but also are the ones who are often leading this team to victory as well. They mostly need to just figure out how to be less bipolar. But given their age, he (and Dubas) are trusting them to figure it out. And really, it is on them to figure it out. I doubt they are letting them off the hook, but it is not like they can hold their hands either or they will solve anything by putting unnecessary pressure on them. I am sure Keefe/Dubas realize that they get plenty of that from fans, media, and themselves as it is.

The more fringe guys are consistently held accountable. They are just a lot more rational about it than fans are. They don't want to shoot a player to the moon after one bad game. But he's healthy scratched struggling players... And they've come back performing better. Hasn't done it with the core players as much, but then again, our struggling core players are still better than most other guys on the team...

Gallant has had highs, but also some very low lows which have led him to being fired on 3 separate occasions. Saying he is a guarantee is no different than saying Babcock was a guarantee. It is not like inexperience as an NHL head coach works against you either. Bednar was in his 6th year of his first NHL HC gig (or NHL gig in general) when he won with Colorado. Berube in STL had a brief 1.5 season stint with Philly and mostly being an NHL assistant. Took them from the basement to a Cup after coming in mid-season. Cooper was with Tampa for a while before he won but he is still in his first NHL coaching gig. No prior NHL experience and only 2.5 years of AHL experience too. Mike Sullivan was a HC for Boston for 2 years a decade before getting hired as PIT's HC mid-season, taking them from the basement to winning B2B Cups. Quite frankly, Trotz is the only "experienced" HC to win a Cup since Quenneville in 2015. That is 6 of the last 7 Cups won by "inexperienced" NHL HC's.

Sometimes it takes time, and last year was the first time Keefe ran a proper NHL training camp as an NHL HC. He has been an NHL HC for 3.5 years and people were calling for his head after the MTL loss. Not everything is necessarily perfect with him, but I have seen Cooper and Sullivan make plenty of coaching gaffs too and both won B2B Cups. This isn't a team that needs a new voice in the locker room. If there is a seismic shift on this team, the core is next in the firing line.
You make some very valid points and articulate your position well. But...sometimes change is needed for the sake of change if nothing else. We have not done a thing in the playoffs and I am not convinced Keefe will lead us to the Cup. I agree that ultimately it's up to the players but a motivating, savvy, experienced (& successful) coach is key. Gallant may not be that guy either...then lets get one thats won a cup and knows what it takes.
 
Sure. Lets loose franchise players so we can over pay people more like Charlie Coyle, Craig Smith, Jesse Puljujarvi, Kyle Okposo etc etc....
Once again, I could be wrong but I highly doubt that’s what they’re thinking, either.
 
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for how many decades has this tool been spewing nonsense. feels like he was even around in late 90s / early 00s.

not that keefe is beyond criticism. but still.
 
Honestly I'm amazed at what Keefe has done with this roster.

One of the worst bottom 6's in recent memory and no # 1 d-man. Rielly is at best a 3 on a really good team.

Keefe is not the issue here. Dubas needs to go and the next GM needs to give Keefe time to work with a proper balanced roster.
 
Honestly I'm amazed at what Keefe has done with this roster.

One of the worst bottom 6's in recent memory and no # 1 d-man. Rielly is at best a 3 on a really good team.

Keefe is not the issue here. Dubas needs to go and the next GM needs to give Keefe time to work with a proper balanced roster.
Don’t forget the goalies being reclamation projects
 
I agree with making a coaching change (anything more than just changing goalies and lower level players!!).. But Keefe is Kyles puppet. Firing Keefe would be like firing himself. He's going down with the ship.
 
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Honestly I'm amazed at what Keefe has done with this roster.

One of the worst bottom 6's in recent memory and no # 1 d-man. Rielly is at best a 3 on a really good team.

Keefe is not the issue here. Dubas needs to go and the next GM needs to give Keefe time to work with a proper balanced roster.
Your impressed with what Keefe has done with this roster? Babs team was 8th in the league with Hainsey, Rielly, Zaitsev, Dermott, 30 games of Muzzin, Gardiner, Ozhiganov, Marincin...with Hutchinson and Sparks as his backup. His depth up front was good.

This team is significantly more balanced than what Babs was working with.
 
How does one lead to the other?
insinuating a top 4 distribution of salary cap is problematic with the performance of bottom lines isn't something that I would entertain given the range of high producing players playing for low cap. To be clear, there are more solutions to players such as Engval, Kerfoot, Holl et al than throwing more money at the problem that is taken by the top 4. How about moving out some of these guys and finding some hungrier, smarter and more aggressive sparkplugs. The league, & the AHL are full of them.
 
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