Dale Weise

[TheBlindFan]

The MAN

 

[Mr. Hab]

I think Weise will get a letter some day. Most likely not with the Habs but somewhere.

For sure!! And...Weise will be a warrior no matter what...letter or no letter.
(and it has to be with our Habs...he's a keeper...you want to see Weise lift a CUP with our Habs).

Regular season warrior.
Playoff warrior.
Real winner.

We need more Weise.
(Gilbert for another Weise).

One Weise for our top 6...another Weise for our bottom 6.
Recipe for success...especially in playoffs.
I really wish Bergevin gave him a 2-3 year extension this summer, heck...as soon as I saw him in his first playoff season with us...I would have given him a 4-5yr deal, no joke! (you could tell who is a winner/keeper in playoffs).


Go Weise Go!!

 

[sharks9]

On pace for 44 goals this year

More goals than Ovechkin or Stamkos so far

 

[LyricalLyricist]

4 goals more and he ties his career high. I hope he does, why not? Should be easy to score 4 more in 70 games.

 

[Daniels45]

4 goals more and he ties his career high. I hope he does, why not? Should be easy to score 4 more in 70 games.

Wiese Galchenyuk Byron...

 

[Mr. Hab]

Give him a 2-3 year extension...now!!
(before his agent asks for $3-4-5mil/year).


Go Weise Go!! (was born to lift a CUP as a Hab).

 

[Beige Van]

Give him a 2-3 year extension...now!!
(before his agent asks for $3-4-5mil/year).


Go Weise Go!! (was born to lift a CUP as a Hab).

You bring up a good point. He is a UFA at the end of the season. He obviously loves playing here. What do people think is a good resigning number? 4yrs/9mil would be pretty reasonable if he can score ~15/15 this year.

 

[CN_paladin]

You bring up a good point. He is a UFA at the end of the season. He obviously loves playing here. What do people think is a good resigning number? 4yrs/9mil would be pretty reasonable if he can score ~15/15 this year.

That's still a lot. I'd do 6M for 4 years.

 

[Habsrule]

I think he will get a Prust like deal. Four years at ten million. Working out to 2.5 million a year.

Yes that is overpayment but he will only be 28 years old. If the Habs don't offer him that someone else will.

I really hope that he takes the Bergevin discount though.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I think he will get a Prust like deal. Four years at ten million. Working out to 2.5 million a year.

Yes that is overpayment but he will only be 28 years old. If the Habs don't offer him that someone else will.

I really hope that he takes the Bergevin discount though.

...if Bergevin puts some smoked meat in the poutine, I bet he bites...

 

[Mr. Hab]

You bring up a good point. He is a UFA at the end of the season. He obviously loves playing here. What do people think is a good resigning number? 4yrs/9mil would be pretty reasonable if he can score ~15/15 this year.

He grew up a Hab fan...he's a true warrior for our Habs.
And, I wouldn't doubt his ceiling...15/15? If you let him...Weise can give you 25-30 goals...if you don't restrict his ice-time.

First time I saw him perform like a winner/warrior in his first playoffs for our Habs...I was sold (I like our playoff warriors 'cause I WANT A CUP!!). I was already sad that Bergevin didn't give him (at least) a 4 year deal. Instead he only got 2yrs (1mil/yr). Now he will be more expensive.

Bergevin will now have to wait for Weise to go through a cold streak since Weise is way too expensive now!

But, Weise is just going to get hotter and hotter!
(regular season warrior...playoff warrior).

Still...I'll hope Weise will gladly take 4yrs for 9mil. Weise grew up a Hab fan...he wants to win here.

That's still a lot. I'd do 6M for 4 years.

That's what I wanted after his first playoff season...could be too late for that kind of deal now! (I hope I'm wrong). We'd be lucky if Weise takes 6mil for 3yrs. Again...I hope I'm wrong!

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Excellent third line player right here, this is a guy you win with.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Excellent third line player right here, this is a guy you win with.

Well...at least he's moving UP with some Hab fans
(from 4th line to...3rd line!!).

Most label Weise a 4th liner...but you give him a chance to put some points on the board and he'll do it.

He's a solid 3rd liner who can also pitch in on the 2nd or 1st line in case of injuries...we could use another Weise.

I'm telling you...one Weise for our top 6...another Weise for our bottom 6...and voila! A recipe for success.

 

[Wats]

I wouldn't give more than 1.5M for him to be honest, at the end of the day he's a bottom 6er. Best way to go is use him while he's cheap then let someone else overpay him and move on to the next cheap bottom 6er.

 

[DangerDave]

Sure he cheats defensively and he misses a lot of golden opportunities but how can you dislike this guy when he's on your team? He's quick, tough and surprisingly skilled for a bottom 6 guy. Best of all is that he's a big game player that elevates his game when it's on the line. 6 goals and 8 points from a third liner? Yes please!

 

[InglewoodJack]

This is his career year, I think. I predict 20 goals, ~40 points. No contract over 2 mil.

 

[Mr. Hab]

I wouldn't give more than 1.5M for him to be honest, at the end of the day he's a bottom 6er. Best way to go is use him while he's cheap then let someone else overpay him and move on to the next cheap bottom 6er.

If up to me...no way I let him go!

He's part of our playoff warrior core, and...we don't have many who will go through many teams to win the CUP like Weise can. (playoff warriors...PK Subban, Price, Weise, Gallagher, Mitchell, DSP, and maybe Beaulieu has playoff warrior potential).

He's a major major keeper.

He was born a Hab and he should win a CUP with our Habs.

3yrs for 6-7mil or 4yrs for 9mil...very fair deal for both sides, imo.
Get it done before he score 2-3 more HAT-TRICKS this season...you all know he can do it .

We have to keep our winners, not throw them away.

Sure he cheats defensively and he misses a lot of golden opportunities but how can you dislike this guy when he's on your team? He's quick, tough and surprisingly skilled for a bottom 6 guy. Best of all is that he's a big game player that elevates his game when it's on the line. 6 goals and 8 points from a third liner? Yes please!

6 goals and 8pts in 12games...we have 70 games left.
Watch out...better to sign him on the cheap before he gets 25-30 goals.

This is his career year, I think. I predict 20 goals, ~40 points. No contract over 2 mil.

Career year? He's just getting warmed up. How many teams gave him chances...?
He's finally getting the chances that he deserves and he's showing how you do it...Hab style. He's darn fast and old-school heart...underrated shot...underrated passing...and a major playoff warrior.

I predict 25goals+ this season, but more importantly...he's also going to deliver the goods WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS (playoffs), unlike some other players who really need to pick it up in playoffs...#79...#67...and I'll get on #27's case later since he's still young.

 

[Wats]

If up to me...no way I let him go!

He's part of our playoff warrior core, and...we don't have many who will go through many teams to win the CUP like Weise can. (playoff warriors...PK Subban, Price, Weise, Gallagher, Mitchell, DSP, and maybe Beaulieu has playoff warrior potential).

He's a major major keeper.

He was born a Hab and he should win a CUP with our Habs.

3yrs for 6-7mil or 4yrs for 9mil...very fair deal for both sides, imo.
Get it done before he score 2-3 more HAT-TRICKS this season...you all know he can do it .

We have to keep our winners, not throw them away.

He's in the same boat as Prust was pre-UFA. If he gets 15 goals and 30+ points someone will pay him 2-3M and that long term. Is he worth it if he can bring this consistently? Perhaps. I rather Habs try to find the next Weise for ~1M and use the capspace to add a top 6 forward. Bottom 6 shouldn't take up too much capspace...especially with all the Habs best players being off their ELCs and entering paydays.

If there's one thing Bergevin and his pro-scouting has shown is they know how to pick out quality bottom 6ers from the scrap heap. Therrien does a great job developing bottom 6 players. Mitchell last season, Weise the year before. I'm sure he'll get another one this season if he hasn't already in Byron. Smith-Pelly may as well be ready to fill Weise's role by next season.

IMO you let Weise play for a big payday and keep him unsigned until season over. If he wants to stay with MTL, he'll take a short term deal. Habs have a ton of guys coming up for these bottom 6 spots, too risky giving him long term.

 

[Treb]

If up to me...no way I let him go!

He's part of our playoff warrior core, and...we don't have many who will go through many teams to win the CUP like Weise can. (playoff warriors...PK Subban, Price, Weise, Gallagher, Mitchell, DSP, and maybe Beaulieu has playoff warrior potential).

He's a major major keeper.

He was born a Hab and he should win a CUP with our Habs.

3yrs for 6-7mil or 4yrs for 9mil...very fair deal for both sides, imo.
Get it done before he score 2-3 more HAT-TRICKS this season...you all know he can do it .

We have to keep our winners, not throw them away.



6 goals and 8pts in 12games...we have 70 games left.
Watch out...better to sign him on the cheap before he gets 25-30 goals.




Career year? He's just getting warmed up. How many teams gave him chances...?
He's finally getting the chances that he deserves and he's showing how you do it...Hab style. He's darn fast and old-school heart...underrated shot...underrated passing...and a major playoff warrior.

I predict 25goals+ this season, but more importantly...he's also going to deliver the goods WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS (playoffs), unlike some other players who really need to pick it up in playoffs...#79...#67...and I'll get on #27's case later since he's still young.

Weise is doing the Moen. Watch him score 10 in october/november and score 5 the rest of the year. Only 45 players scored 25 last year, so I doubt Weise will be a top50 goalscorer.

 

[Mr. Hab]

He's in the same boat as Prust was pre-UFA. If he gets 15 goals and 30+ points someone will pay him 2-3M and that long term. Is he worth it if he can bring this consistently? Perhaps. I rather Habs try to find the next Weise for ~1M and use the capspace to add a top 6 forward. Bottom 6 shouldn't take up too much capspace...especially with all the Habs best players being off their ELCs and entering paydays.

If there's one thing Bergevin and his pro-scouting has shown is they know how to pick out quality bottom 6ers from the scrap heap. Therrien does a great job developing bottom 6 players. Mitchell last season, Weise the year before. I'm sure he'll get another one this season if he hasn't already in Byron. Smith-Pelly may as well be ready to fill Weise's role by next season.

IMO you let Weise play for a big payday and keep him unsigned until season over. If he wants to stay with MTL, he'll take a short term deal. Habs have a ton of guys coming up for these bottom 6 spots, too risky giving him long term.

We'll see if Bergevin can get him on the semi-cheap, but I doubt it...or maybe they can meet half way. It'll be easier for Bergevin IF Weise goes through a cold spell before signing an extension since he's TOO HOT RIGHT NOW...TOO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW!!LOL!! (not that I want a coldspell! I'm a huge Weise fan...I just want him signed to a 3yr contract...2yrs minimum).

We find a playoff warrior...we have to keep him for at least another 2-3 yrs...that's the least we can do. He grew up a Hab fan and plays his heart out there...he adds so much depth to our lineup.

When it's playoff time (war time)...I want Weise there.
''Others can replace him...others''...we have Weise...he's the one who can do the job...I'm not sure about the others. I already know that Weise is a warrior for our Habs and he should be rewarded with more security (3yr contract or a 2yr extension).

You think he's good now...just wait for the playoffs.
(he'll show you again what a warrior is all about...we need more like him, not less...and I'm not sure about the ''others''...at least not yet). Who knows? Maybe Weise will take $1.5 - 2mil/year IF it's a 4yr deal...I'd do it.

Weise is doing the Moen. Watch him score 10 in october/november and score 5 the rest of the year. Only 45 players scored 25 last year, so I doubt Weise will be a top50 goalscorer.

Let's see...I'll be watching!!
(I'm always paying attention to Weise!). 20-25 is possible...we'll have to wait and see. No matter...I expect him to be a solid playoff warrior...every playoff series.

To me...Moen was more of a defensive warrior (in his prime...warrior). Weise is more offensive and fast...I'd look for Weise to sometimes score a big goal in the playoffs (not the same for Moen...mostly shutting down 1st and 2nd lines...when he was in his prime...defensive warrior and sometimes, not often...would chip in with a few pts here and there, but Weise is more offensive VS Moen...imo).

To tell you the truth...a small cold spell would just make it easier for Bergevin to sign him to a 2-3yr extension! (note: I don't want a coldspell for Weise...I'm just pointing it out! all hypothetical! all about the extension/contract...what makes Weise happy and our salary cap,etc). I'm always rooting for our playoff warriors...and Weise is definitely one of them...the more warriors we have, the more chances we have at winning the CUP).

 

[InglewoodJack]

Career year? He's just getting warmed up. How many teams gave him chances...?
He's finally getting the chances that he deserves and he's showing how you do it...Hab style. He's darn fast and old-school heart...underrated shot...underrated passing...and a major playoff warrior.

I predict 25goals+ this season, but more importantly...he's also going to deliver the goods WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS (playoffs), unlike some other players who really need to pick it up in playoffs...#79...#67...and I'll get on #27's case later since he's still young.

I just don't see Weise being the kind of guy who can hit 25-30 goals. He's playing the way he is yes, because he's a hard working tank who does have hockey skill, but also he's playing with good players who are all playing very good. This team is at its best right now, which is why you have support guys like Weise playing as well as they do. You remove the hat trick game, he only has 3 goals in 11 games. Which is still really good, but Dale Weise is no powerforward in hiding.

I like him a bunch, and I'm glad he's improving consistently. And at 28, he's still got a lot of hockey to play. That said, I'm not convinced he can sustain consistent goal scoring and become a gamebreaker. I've said, ever since the year we got him, that he's a guy who's scoring peak is somewhere in the 20 goal range, which would be absolutely amazing fora guy like him. I'm not sure if he can produce that year in, year out, but if we can count on a solid 15 goals each year from him, that opens up a whole new dimension of bottom 6 scoring for us.

 

[De Montreal]

So is Weise a warrior?

 

[Mr. Hab]

I just don't see Weise being the kind of guy who can hit 25-30 goals. He's playing the way he is yes, because he's a hard working tank who does have hockey skill, but also he's playing with good players who are all playing very good. This team is at its best right now, which is why you have support guys like Weise playing as well as they do. You remove the hat trick game, he only has 3 goals in 11 games. Which is still really good, but Dale Weise is no powerforward in hiding.

I like him a bunch, and I'm glad he's improving consistently. And at 28, he's still got a lot of hockey to play. That said, I'm not convinced he can sustain consistent goal scoring and become a gamebreaker. I've said, ever since the year we got him, that he's a guy who's scoring peak is somewhere in the 20 goal range, which would be absolutely amazing fora guy like him. I'm not sure if he can produce that year in, year out, but if we can count on a solid 15 goals each year from him, that opens up a whole new dimension of bottom 6 scoring for us.

Why do we have to remove his hat trick?!!!
Maybe he'll score another one...maybe two more! Let's wait and see!
And why is everyone so sure he won't sustain this, won't sustain that! Is Weise playing for the Bruins or Leaves? Or is he a Hab?
Where's the love/support for our 1mil power forward?!
Since day 1...everyone wants him on the 4th line with no more than 10min/game...why? He's too good for that.

''Without the hat trick...he would have 3 goals in 11 games'':
that's still a pace of 20goals+ (if my math is correct!)...major bargain for 1million.

Some here just don't want to admit it...Weise is a very underrated power forward.
(he's not a plumber who works hard and is just getting lucky right now...he's the real deal).

So is Weise a warrior?

Is Markov a playoff warrior? (not even close).

Is Pacioretty a playoff warrior? (I'm still waiting for him to score when it REALLY COUNTS).



Go Weise Go!! (ignore all the negative nellies and doubters who can't respect playoff warriors...no wonder we haven't won a CUP since 1993...I'm going to be in diapers the next **** time they win it! we need more playoff warriors, not less...more!).

 

[Jee]

People were really harsh on him the first 3 or 4 games.

It was really just 3 or 4 games guys, Dale Weise is fantastic.

 

[InglewoodJack]

Why do we have to remove his hat trick?!!!
Maybe he'll score another one...maybe two more! Let's wait and see!
And why is everyone so sure he won't sustain this, won't sustain that! Is Weise playing for the Bruins or Leaves? Or is he a Hab?
Where's the love/support for our 1mil power forward?!
Since day 1...everyone wants him on the 4th line with no more than 10min/game...why? He's too good for that.

''Without the hat trick...he would have 3 goals in 11 games'':
that's still a pace of 20goals+ (if my math is correct!)...major bargain for 1million.

Some here just don't want to admit it...Weise is a very underrated power forward.
(he's not a plumber who works hard and is just getting lucky right now...he's the real deal).

Anyways...I better take a break from the Weise thread!

Go Weise Go!!

I think that with players like Weise, a hat trick is a gross inflation of stats. It's representative of one (Really, really) good game, and I don't think we need to "remove" it per se, it was to illustrate the point that he literally doubled his goal scoring in 1 game. That isn't sustainable.

I'm a huge Weise fan, I think I've mentioned that. I think he was aquired on a great deal, and has a good contract, and is the type of support player you win games with. He's underrated by everyone but our fans. Like I said, 20 goals is a possibility for me, although I don't think that the Weise we're seeing right now is the norm, or the Weise we'll be seeing going forward.

That said, we should all enjoy watching the emergence of a fan favourite putting up good points.