Prospect Info: (D) Nolan Allan - 2021 32nd Overall

Kevin Musto

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you would rather have Nolan Allen?
Not sure, tbh.

On draft day I would've 100% gone with Zellweger.

Allan is a low upside player.

But if he winds up a staple on your bottom pair, isn't a liability, can take the physicality of playoff hockey, meanwhile Zellweger turns into a struggling top 4 PP merchant... then the choice is clear.

If Zellweger develops into something like Torey Krug at minimum, I think that's better than Allan's ceiling. Though I don't think that's a fit for what KD is trying to build.
 

BobbyJet

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Not sure, tbh.

On draft day I would've 100% gone with Zellweger.

Allan is a low upside player.

But if he winds up a staple on your bottom pair, isn't a liability, can take the physicality of playoff hockey, meanwhile Zellweger turns into a struggling top 4 PP merchant... then the choice is clear.

If Zellweger develops into something like Torey Krug at minimum, I think that's better than Allan's ceiling. Though I don't think that's a fit for what KD is trying to build.
Unless a young smurf dman is another Quinn Hughes, I doubt JD will draft him. I believe he was sick and tired of the Stan Bowman days where he would choose weaklings that had offensive flashes in their game but little else. I think Luke and JD are on the same page in that regard.
 
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Kevin Musto

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Are you sticking with this one...?
Yes.

His contract in the KHL ends after this season, so LA will finally be able to bring him over.

He's a talented stay at home defenseman, and I look forward to seeing him play in the NHL.
 

WarriorofTime

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Yes.

His contract in the KHL ends after this season, so LA will finally be able to bring him over.

He's a talented stay at home defenseman, and I look forward to seeing him play in the NHL.
Even if Kirsanov is a solid player, it does show the benefits to having a similarly caliber North American player that you can get into multiple training camps, place on your AHL team, send up and down as needed during formative developmental years. If Kirsanov does sign, he'll be 23 and if he doesn't take a spot right away, may not stay around very long since he can make better money in the KHL than hanging around signing 2-way league minimum deals.
 
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Kevin Musto

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Even if Kirsanov is a solid player, it does show the benefits to having a similarly caliber North American player that you can get into multiple training camps, place on your AHL team, send up and down as needed during formative developmental years. If Kirsanov does sign, he'll be 23 and if he doesn't take a spot right away, may not stay around very long since he can make better money in the KHL than hanging around signing 2-way league minimum deals.
I don't disagree.

I think it's always more advantageous to develop your players in the AHL.

Though as far as KHL organizations are concerned, he's very lucky to currently be with Torpedo developing under Larianov. That's probably the best team to be in Russia for development. Silayev and Artamonov are thriving there.

I think Kirsanov has a very good shot at making the Kings lineup next year.
 
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TheFridge

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Unless a young smurf dman is another Quinn Hughes, I doubt JD will draft him. I believe he was sick and tired of the Stan Bowman days where he would choose weaklings that had offensive flashes in their game but little else. I think Luke and JD are on the same page in that regard.

Right but you can't go too far in the other direction either. This isn't the dead puck era NHL. Players have to be able to not only skate in the NHL, but make decisions and move the puck at an NHL pace too. We're going to have some fast, talented players on the team over the next 1-3 years but someone has to be able to get them the puck to in transition to be an effective 5v5 team. Hopefully Korchinski, Levshunov and Rinzel will be enough.
 

ploppsdman

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Good for Allan. EDM is better. It won’t be long before Allan is sent down.
 

featherhawk

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Great for Allen, have not been able to watch much but I am reading and hearing that he has earned it and played well!

His game and demeanour scream long term NHL player.

His contributions to Team Canada was under appreciated.
 

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