Currently the best & worst rebuilds ongoing

[Golden_Jet]

I'm old enough to remember when the leafs were good. That should clear up my age somewhat.

No, that’s not really helping ,
They’ve never won 3 rounds

 

[kp61c]

the sabres look like a team that is in need of rebuild. too bad they are in the middle of one already.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Should be able to get one this year. Some good centers in the top 7-8 picks.

Agreed, and even if habs move Dach permanently to the wing...Demidov, Hage + all the kids playing well in Laval and 7 top 50 picks next summer, habs will be fine imo

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

As a Detroit fan I don’t wanna hear anyone who acquired a top 3 pick complaining about lottery luck. We never even got to pick higher than 4 and we iced statistically the worst team in the cap era.

 

[Raistlin]

As a Detroit fan I don’t wanna hear anyone who acquired a top 3 pick complaining about lottery luck. We never even got to pick higher than 4 and we iced statistically the worst team in the cap era.

Canucks were putrid and never picked above 5, and made playoffs after 8 year's absence if you discount the fluke run in COVID. thats not a solid excuse. Good management makes a world of difference.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Canucks were putrid and never picked above 5, and made playoffs after 8 year's absence if you discount the fluke run in COVID. thats not a solid excuse. Good management makes a world of difference.

Not to mention bled a shit ton of draft capital.

 

[Shark Finn]

Kings are headed directly for a cliff in a year or two

Completely botched their rebuild and created a black hole team with no future

I think you’ll see everyone Byfield’s age and older with new franchises by 2026-2027 when they start a real rebuild instead of an arrogant “we’re actually smarter than everyone” retool

How Blake is still employed is beyond me.

 

[TBF1972]

Worst


Best

serious question: when did the minnesota rebuild happen?

 

[TBF1972]

Yeah the only real way to really fully judge if a rebuild is successful is if a team comes out on the other end and are good. Now I do think the Devils are good and will continue to be good but even there they had a great 22-23 year and followed it up with a stinker so jury is still kind of out.

i agree that the devils rebuild was successful. how successful only the next few po will tell. if they end up like toronto losing year after year in the first round it will be just a very mild success.

 

[Team_Spirit]

serious question: when did the minnesota rebuild happen?

When Kaprizov joined then they buy out the vets and finally traded Fiala for Faber. So about 3 years 2020~2022

Wild buying out final four years of massive Parise, Suter contracts

Both signed identical 13-year, $98 million contracts in 2012.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[NoelVilla]

I really like what Washington have done. Should have stayed away from PLD but other than that they are younger and faster this year.
Buffalo have been a mess for a long time but have some very talented players now.
Detroit could turn into Buffalo of old if they are not careful what they do from here on forward.

 

[TBF1972]

When Kaprizov joined then they buy out the vets and finally traded Fiala for Faber. So about 3 years 2020~2022

Wild buying out final four years of massive Parise, Suter contracts

Both signed identical 13-year, $98 million contracts in 2012.

www.nbcsports.com

in my book this doesn't qualify as a rebuild. they kept most of their core intact. the buyouts just limited their ability to replace those players with anything else than cheap options. none the less it was very good work by the gm.

 

[Crocket]

The Leafs absolutely tanked the team and won the lottery with Matthews, and built a competitive regular season team around him. If they had found a goalie and maybe a top 4 D in that mix, they coulda been a contender

 

[The Management]

The Leafs absolutely tanked the team and won the lottery with Matthews, and built a competitive regular season team around him. If they had found a goalie and maybe a top 4 D in that mix, they coulda been a contender

Yeah, for everybody who clowns on us for our playoff failures, I'm grateful I get to watch playoff hockey every year. It's tough to even get to the show, much less win a seven game war against some of the top teams in the league.

Credit to Washington as well. A lot of people had them pegged for the same precipitous decline as the Penguins. Maybe it's less a rebuild, but they've been able to tinker with their roster while collecting young capital, and it could keep them competitive for longer than anyone anticipated.

New Jersey is the free space, as is Buffalo at the other end of the spectrum. Detroit, Ottawa should be expected to take a step forward by now.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

IMHO, the problem with many rebuilds is that they try to change the players without rebuilding the organization as a whole, i.e., management, coaching staffs, data analysis, etc., and so what they end up with is a collection of new players in a flawed system.

Success usually starts from the very top; so does failure. If the last rebuild failed, the next rebuild is also likely to fail unless you flush the system as a whole. See, e.g., Jerry Jones' Cowboys.

A problem is that ownership builds relationships with the organization that they trust, but then hold on to those folks out of loyalty even when they have passed their prime. The organization thus ends up with a bunch of dinosaurs trying to do things that might have worked two decades ago, but no longer work now. New thinking required.

This is not to say that rebuilds are not necessary -- every organization goes through them periodically -- but that a good rebuild is much more than amassing younger and better talent. Rather, a good rebuild is a fresh start from top to bottom.

My own take anyway, Viva La Difference!

 

[FiveTacos]

Are we counting years where a team was making a futile attempt to stay good as part of the rebuild? Some of these teams haven't been rebuilding for as long as they've missed the playoffs.

Lots of teams spend several seasons refusing to start the teardown because they're thinking retool.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

The Ducks' rebuild looks worse than it is right now because A) it's actually kind of two rebuilds combined into one with Murray having just started before he was fired and B) both coaches we've had during this process have pretty much sucked

 

[Finnen]

If have to choose a worst team and a best team:

Worst



Best

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I like the job that Mike Grier has done, hated it for a while but really promising when you look at it longer term. Hughes has made some good asset management moves but I think Habs are kinda unlucky with injuries derailing careers and not getting high end talent with their high picks (Slaf is no mack, Reinbacher is no Makar, Demidov is a good winger on the tarasenko level). So they wont go anywhere after the rebuild imo. Chicago is too early to tell. Columbus is actually turning it around, I like their current rebuild but its also rebuild #2. Senators also on the edge of rebuild 2.

 

[Sombastate]

For how bad the Flyers have been for the last 14 years, they have Michkov, Luchanko and Bonk to show for it.

that's strikingly bad

 

[benfranklin]

Yeah.... Rangers got 2 elites players for free. They also play in New York. Not hard to attract UFA.

One of the best rebuild is Winnipeg.

When did the Jets rebuild? 2015?

For how bad the Flyers have been for the last 14 years, they have Michkov, Luchanko and Bonk to show for it.

that's strikingly bad

Last 14 years? The Giroux years were solid. Id say the last 5 or so have been bad.

 

[Sombastate]

When did the Jets rebuild? 2015?


Last 14 years? The Giroux years were solid. Id say the last 5 or so have been bad.

Other than 2010 they were truly competitive in 2020 and then Covid happened.
Giroux was incredible, my all time favorite flyer, but they failed miserably to build around him.

They've failed to make it out of the first round 11 of the last 12 years, and didn't make the playoffs 6 of the last 8, several of those years include Giroux

 

[Borlag]

I really like what Washington have done. Should have stayed away from PLD but other than that they are younger and faster this year.
Buffalo have been a mess for a long time but have some very talented players now.
Detroit could turn into Buffalo of old if they are not careful what they do from here on forward.

I see Detroit turning more into Nashville 10-15 years ago. Couple of stud defensemen, good goaltending (one of Cossa/Augustine is bound to pan out if not both) but a whole lot of mediocrity on forwards. I don't see much difference between Larkin and someone like Legwand, 1st line centers sure but definitely not amongst the top of their respective eras. Sure it's possible that Yzerman builds the team better eventually, but far more likely it'll result in same sort of mediocrity.

 

[rahad]

When did the Jets rebuild? 2015?

They did not rebuild by finishing in the bottom 5 like most of the tank team. They pretty much stay in the middle. From the 2011 draft to the 2016 draft. They have successfully drafted a great player from Scheifele to Laine. They managed to stay a good team despise Winnipeg being in the ''no trade list'' of most of the NHL player list.

One of the best GM in the league.

 

[I am Canadian]

The Leafs absolutely tanked the team and won the lottery with Matthews, and built a competitive regular season team around him. If they had found a goalie and maybe a top 4 D in that mix, they coulda been a contender

They found success too quickly after implementing Nylander, Marner, Matthews. If they bottomed out another 1-2 years they likely would have added a defender.

etc

2017 (Year after Matthews)
Miro Heiskanen (3rd overall)
Makar (4th overall)

2018
Dahlin (1st overall)
Hughes (7th overall)